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Bobby Viteritti Interview Written By Bernard Lopez of DiscoMusic.com
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| An early 70s photo of Bobby Viteritti in the DJ booth. |
Bobby Viteritti: "Thats how I got my job at Trocadero. I thought, I could do a lot better than this Disco Duck?" |
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| Interior shot of Trocadero Transfer |
Bobby attended college for about a year and a half and contracted hepatitis A and then B. After getting his doctors permission to travel Bobby decides to leave New York for Florida in 1973-74 by packing all his belongings into a U-Haul hitched to the back of his car. His parents had bought a condominium in Hollywood, Florida and thats where he would stay while he fixed up and furnished the place for them. Before heading south on I-95 he and his partner decide to stop at Colony Records in Times Square to buy some 45s. He figured that being from New York would give him an edge in landing a DJ spot in Florida so he bought two copies of "Rock the Boat" by the Hues Corp., "Little Bit of Love" by Brenda and the Tabulations along with "Just One Look" by Doris Troy. When he arrived he took those records and auditioned at Keiths Cruise Room in Hallandale, Florida. The club had just installed an elevated dance floor and replaced the jukebox with two QRK turntables. The turntables had no pitch controls, which made it extremely difficult to do any mixing, and he explains "I was banging em in and out showing off like a big shot you know. Showing them I could mix" and was hired by the owner to begin four nights a week and was making about $75.00 a week.
"What is he doing up there? Listen, hes got em both going together." |
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| 7 inch single of OC Smith's "La, La Peace Song." |
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| DJ Bobby Viteritti and DJ Robbie Leslie on New York's Sixth Avenue. |
"dont you dare go to Trocadero. Gary Tighe (the house DJ) has got that club under his finger. Thats HIS club." |
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| A full page ad for San Francisco's Trocadero Transfer ushering in the 1980s. |
Seeing pictures of Trocadero Transfer in a magazine is what did it for him. He turned to his partner and said, "Look at this place. Can you believe it? I hear rumors through the record industry that this is where everybody goes to party." Bobby started putting feelers out within the industry and everyone said to him; "dont you dare go to Trocadero. Gary Tighe (the house DJ) has got that club under his finger. Thats HIS club." Bobby didnt care and started inquiring about what time it closed, do they serve liquor, can you do this and that
The reply from his contacts was, "No, dont you dare. Bobby, youre stepping into territory you dont want to get into to." Too late Bobbys curiosity had been piqued, and he soon drove out to California in 1977. His first stop was to see Scott Forbes who was the owner of Studio One in Los Angeles to deliver a cassette of a Donna Summer remix he had just done. He was invited to stay at Scotts home and while making his way to the backyard he sees Dick Collier, the owner of Trocadero lounging by the swimming pool. The two soon strike up a conversation while Bobbys mixes are playing in the background. Bobby recalls, "He (Dick) was having problems with his DJs and stuff. Too much drugs-whatever. Angel dust going around-nobody had a hold on that fucking club. Trocadero was 12 Wests sister club and it had a beautiful Graebar sound system. Dick asked, would you like to play here? Gary was on his shit list-he was over him. He then asked me, Would you like to play Halloween night Black Party?" Bobby was in disbelief over the offer, but promptly accepted to play the Troc.
Halloween night rolls around and there he is playing the Troc. Bobby recalls he was running out of records since he tells me, "I never played such a long shift. I started playing at 11 PM and went till about 8 and I kept on telling my lover Dennis, go down to the car and get me more records. Hes bringing more, and Im playing songs I never even heard before, but theyre from the record pool and I just got them
The crowd really liked me-they liked me, but they didnt like me because they were all Gary Tighe fans."
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| Bobby Viteritti working his magic in the DJ booth of Trocadero. |
It was during this show that he introduced "Follow Me" by Amanda Lear. He said, "That song had never been played. Everyone got it at the record pool, but it went over everyones head. Dennis went to my trunk and brought more records, and I threw it on and they loved it. I saw some kind of magic there. It was like designed for the interior of the Trocadero--that time and space. The next day I called Roy Thode and Robbie Leslie who was now a DJ at the Sandpiper at Fire Island and told them to PLAY IT! Play it late at night. Its high energy, but very electronic and let the whole thing play to the end and watch what happens to your room." Despite "Follow Me" being an older song it started to appear on the charts and to this day is a classic still in regular rotation.
Due to the great response to Bobbys Halloween set he was formally hired as a regular DJ at the Troc, but under Gary. They rotated and had contests among each other to see who played better, and soon Bobby replaced Gary. I questioned Bobby on how things transpired, and he replied, "I almost gave up. I swear I was going to turn around and go back to Florida. It took about two months. Every weekend there were petitions going on the dance floor because Trocadero was a membership club, which said, No, we dont want Bobby here
and all that."
"Billy Langenheim was a really big influence on me. I could have never gotten to where I am at right now if it werent for Billy my lightman-never.." |
Its obvious Bobby is having a hard time being accepted by the Trocs regulars including the staff, which he needed to rely on. I asked how bad had it gotten, and he proceeds to say, "People were drugging me up
I remember one night I had some punch since they didnt serve any liquor
Somebody put some acid in there. We were drinking that shit, and about three oclock I look over to Billy Langenheim, my lightman, and how ironic, he looked at me at the same time and said, Im tripping. Somebody spiked that punch-one of the employees. Things like that happened so I said Im not going to freak out now cause all I need to do is have an acid trip and lose this gig." This was a week before he was finally hired to replace Gary. Bobby goes on to say, "Billy Langenheim was a really big influence on me. I could have never gotten to where I am at right now if it werent for Billy my lightman-never. I was the first person to realize the importance of a lightman, and I even told him you would get same billing as I for special parties. Music by Bobby Viteritti and lights by Billy Langenheim. He really liked that." Billy originally worked at Studio One in L. A., but, Bobby brought him up to San Francisco and the Troc. He told me Billy was making as much as $400.00 a night at the Troc.
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| Dancers at Trocadero grooving to Bobby Viteriitti's Disco soundscape and Billy Langenhiem's light show. |
"Nobody liked me then all of a sudden one master figure-the Godfather of the dance floor said it was okay and everything changed." |
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| Bobby Viteritti perched high atop his DJ booth at Trocadero spinning his brand of Disco music to the dancers below. |
Lets move on to his style. I asked what his trademark is and although we stray from this he replies, "Very freelance and I had the gift of mixing. If I were playing something like Groove Me and I go through all those old 1960s albums, and I see Tommy James and the Shondells
Ill try to mix it in there and just fuck with them
they dont even know it and then thirty seconds in they realized it. Thats my gift, mixing. I got really good ears
they ring a lot
I pay a lot of attention to my ears. Headphones and monitor levels have to be perfect. Gotta hear the floor
gotta hear them cheering. You have to be one on one with them just like if I were on the dance floor dancing."
"I like to pick a spot in the record-an instrumental piece and fuck with them-their heads." |
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| Lightman Billy Langenhiem and Bobby Viteritti in the DJ booth always working as the perfect team. |
One thing that I found interesting is that Bobby is preoccupied and afraid of having a bad night. He has nightmares about it and makes it a point not to let people leave saying they had a bad night. He and his lightman Billy worked in concert to salvage a night that they both felt was not going well. Bobby would run down into the floor to get a feel for the mood of the room, the temperature and the lighting and then runs back to the booth and make corrections. He tells me that they would radically change the direction of the evening if they had to by playing his private edits or using new lighting gear-whatever it took. He describes it this way, "Were going to drain them out and ease with that tempo
Im going to start mellowing it out and will be doing something like "Follow Me." Same tempo and "Follow Me" will bring everyone together and thats when youll hear the tambourine, the chimes and whistles
Billys got his lights down. You cant see a fucking thing in there except the exit lights! From there we are traveling. Its high tempo, but its light
Ill go from Marlena Shaw to "Loves In You" by Nightlife Unlimited by fucking with the intro
Then I wiggle my way down out of the high energy." Getting people to come down gradually was difficult to do, but a challenge that Bobby loved.
"While he would wave his hands asking people to go home he acknowledges that those long nights were the most memorable times." |
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| Exterior photo of Trocadero as featured in the book Tribal Rites. |
The Troc routinely featured live entertainment by big name music stars and Bobby loved to mix with this as well to break things up. The artists who were scheduled to perform normally did not get along with Bobby since he had his own idea of how things should be done. Despite Bobbys heavy hand, nearly all the performers came away saying that it was one of their best shows. Bobby recalls the time Cheryl Lynn came to sing and how adamant she was about not playing her older, but more popular material and instead wanted to sing ballads and new songs that no one knew. Its because of her that Bobby decided no more ballads during live shows because they would ruin the night, Recounting the events during the afternoon sound check he says, "I had Cheryl Lynn up there. Oh she was on the rag. She gave me the shit about the old stuff and that this was a brand-new day and thats when I decided to put my foot down. Before that, I was very humble. She had all ballads in there and she did not sing Got To Be Real." Bobby was now in a bad mood so he took the tape home and decided to change the whole theme without telling her. He admits that he had just won a Billboard DJ award so he was on a little ego trip. Cheryl goes on stage later that night only to discover that the music has been radically changed by Bobby. The change took her completely by surprise, and she was forced to sing her classics, which brought wild cheers from the crowd. She loved the outcome that she asked for a copy of the newly arranged tape so she could use it on other shows.
"The highlight of my life was San Francisco-Trocadero-1978. The right place at the right time sweetheart." |
Bobby was making about $75.00 a week when he began in Florida. At Trocadero, he was making about $18, 000.00 a year, which he felt wasnt enough. Trocaderos refusal to grant him a raise in 1981 is what ultimately drove him to hire a business manager. His new manager promptly walked into the Troc management office and told the owner, "Bobby is leaving and hes giving you two weeks." A new and larger club called Dreamland with DJ Howard Merritt had recently opened, but management was unhappy with Merritt so they ended up hiring Bobby at $1,000.00 a night and $1.00 a head for every person above 561 that he brought in. Bobby says, "I was cleaning up."
Dreamland was practically around the corner from Trocadero and contained an elaborate Graebar sound system with eight coffin speakers whereas the Troc had only four. The difference however was in the crowd. Dreamland attracted a crowd that was as Bobby describes, "All the leather people and butch guys that didnt know how to dance-they just wanted to be with the scene and that macho music were there. Trocadero played all that light strings and they were more serious and they had better ears." He goes on to say that Dreamlands interior was a stark white, which he offered to paint black himself. The change to Dreamland didnt agree with Bobby so after one year he left and bought a house and took off for one year. His next residency was at the Hollywood Palace in Los Angeles.
"I had a problem with these people, they were too glamorous my music was too good." |
While he considered the Hollywood Palace a challenge he wasnt thrilled with the crowd who seemed to have moved from Disco to rock and pseudo rockabilly like the Stray Cats. It attracted a broad range of people and featured live entertainment, which made it difficult to create a continuing mood. He eventually didnt care who would perform each night and found himself ill prepared because he was warming up the crowd with the wrong type of music. The most embarrassing being the night U2 played and the crowd threw napkins, and other items at him for playing "Do You Really Want To Hurt Me" by Culture Club. He was able to regain control of the crowd by slipping on the David Bowie 12 inch of "TVC15."
Bobby remained at the Palace for a year and then helped open Rage in Hollywood. From Hollywood he then moved and "played for the stars" at the Beverly Hills Wilshire Hotel. The Wilshire stint lasted eight months and was to become his last club in California. It would drive him crazy when the staff would come up and say that Chaka Khan or Madonna
was in the room. His reply was, "So what do you want me to do? WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO? So shes here, big deal
I had a problem with these people, they were too glamorous
my music was too good."
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| A night at Trocadero Transfer with Bobby Viteritti supplying the music and Billy Langenhiem working the lights. |
Once his contract was over he sold his house and wandered aimlessly throughout the Caribbean. He found himself lost without a job, his mother had just passed away so he called his father in New York around 1986 and asked whether he could come back. His father said yes, since his mothers wishes were for Bobby to come back home to be with the rest of the family on the east coast. Bobby came back and settled in New York City where nobody knew who he was. Bobby would walk into clubs and have to explain to people that he was the DJ at Trocadero and that he remixed Scott Allen and several other tracks for Disconet. He says he felt foolish having to explain himself and felt no desire to pursue DJing and instead got a job selling high end art and photographs for noted clients, which he does to this day.
Bobby openly admits that he didnt see the Disco renaissance occurring and thought Disco would never come back. He is now happy that it has since it sparked his interest in learning how to use his Mac computer and burn his mixes onto CD. Hes managed to transfer many of his mixes onto CD and is looking to release them to fans. When asked whether he would consider doing a night in a club he said, "Yeah, as long as it is oldies. I want to be the Wolfman Jack of Disco DJs."
"I felt like hiding my face because the praise I got out in public was always so high and to have a bad night " |
"The leader of that cult was Bobby Viteritti. His ability to read the crowd and take them on a musical journey night after night was nonpareil." |
In wrapping up I wanted to include some memories from several Trocadero regulars who experienced Bobbys magic firsthand. The first is from "Keefe" who worked at Aloha Records. Heres what he had to say:
"As for my memories, let me just say that back in the Troc heyday, I used to be in awe of this man's talent in the DJ booth. His ability to manipulate the mood of the room at Trocadero was something I had never experienced before. Bobby's music combined with the incredible Graebar sound system, Bill Langenheim's creative lighting (especially on the cluster of disco balls in the center of the room), the wild set pieces (during Troc's holiday parties) and the "Trocadites," served to make some of the best memories of my life.
I could always count on him to introduce new and obscure tunes, as well as custom remixes to keep songs fresh. I recall I used to turn into a nervous wreck when I first started encountering Bobby at Aloha Records. I'm glad I eventually got over that, but thats the type of impression he made on us back then. It's to his credit that most of us that were lucky enough to experience Bobby at Troc still fondly talk about those good times."
Another Troc regular and former Aloha Records employee who goes by the name "Markydefad" had this to say about Bobby:
"Trocadero was a magical dance space that brought out a cultish dancing-family feeling in the people lucky enough to have partied there. The leader of that cult was Bobby Viteritti. His ability to read the crowd and take them on a musical journey night after night was nonpareil. His ability to create "Drama" by placing records to tell stories, create feelings and moods, and ultimately, make you wanna keep on dancing ...was amazing. There were the upbeat traditional disco "feeling good" sets, the space sets, the dark, twisted 'popper" sets, the R & B sets, Latin sounds, Jazzy sounds, Rockish sets and then, ultimately, what we came for.... Bobbys incredible morning music, wherein he continually impressed, amazed, astounded and had everybody asking "what was that?" Usually, we timed our arrival for around 3:00am to get in the mood for the morning sets.
I have to admit I took a lot of this for granted at the time. I thought lots of DJ's were probably capable of creating vivid memories of dancing--so much so, that now, 20 some years later...hearing certain records, I instantly recall dancing to them at Trocadero. Certain songs, I never heard anywhere else. When I moved to LA in early 1984...I learned the sad truth
it was NEVER the same. There was NO morning music at Probe...they just stopped playing. Fuck you. Go home. It's over. Go to Greg's Blue Dot (down the street) The era had truly ended. Whereas, the party at Trocadero was still in full gear when the morning sun was peeking through the cracks in the doors.
I then realized how lucky I was to have lived through the great communal spirit that was dancing at Trocadero. I didn't know any of the people who ran the place. I never met Bobby. By the time I came to work at Aloha Records, he had moved to LA, I think. And by the time, I moved to LA, he wasn't playing anywhere I danced. BUT, I revere what he created during his reign at Trocadero.
Bobby Viteriiti was truly a man of impeccable taste in music and someone who knew how to convey his love of music to his dancers. I'm sure other top DJ's had similar skills, but he was the one I was lucky enough to have influenced me in San Francisco. Therefore, he'll always be the one I point to as an example of the DJ-as an artist in his own right."
Lastly DJ Robbie Leslie sent me the following comment about Bobby Viteritti after reading this interview:
From: "Robbie Leslie"
Date: Sun Dec 15, 2002 11:46:35 AM US/Eastern
To: Bernard Lopez
Subject: Re: Bobby Viteritti Interview
Hi Bernie,
I'm here in NYC and played the Holiday Party at the Gay/Lesbian Center last night (Saturday). On more than one occasion, my mind went back to the wonderful Bobby Viteritti Interview and how much I owe to the man who helped form my music style and character in my "formative years". Working lights with Bobby those many years ago allowed me to follow my mentor from the beginning of his sets to the end without interruption. And how much Bobby was always willing to share in regard to technique and the varied aspects of "disco as entertainment" vs. just "playing records". Those are not only treasured memories from my youth, but invaluable instruction that has allowed me to keep at the top of my game these many years.
More than 25 years after my first association with B.V., I can still hear characteristics in my performance that go straight back to what I learned from 'the master'. A master not only of the mix, but of the entire environment of a dancers experience.
Thank you, Bobby.
DJ ROBBIE LESLIE
In closing this interview I would like to thank Bobby Viteritti, Keefe, "Markydefad" and lastly Steve Sukman for their assistance in contributing their memories and photographs for use in this article.
If you have any memories of Bobby Viteritti / Trocadero or comments about this interview please feel free to post them in the form below. Thanks for reading.
The End
Written by Bernard F. Lopez (November 20, 2002)
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