Making CD-R's

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Old September 14th, 2004, 04:21 PM
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Does anyone if there is any particular brand of CD-R that is better than others, or are they all the same? I'm new to this, also I know there is a rewritable version in case you make a mistake?
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I've never experienced any differences whatsoever. I usualy buy the cheapest no name ones I can get my hands on. They work fine for me.
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Old September 15th, 2004, 09:21 AM
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Black CD-r:s are supposed to give less read errors (jitter) and have great compability. And you can get them with Vinyl grooves on the printed side. ("Groovy").

I use them because they look and feel nice, other because they believe they sound better.

Some reading on the subject:
http://www.genesisloudspeakers.com/w...DsII.pdf<br />
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Old September 15th, 2004, 11:13 AM
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But jitter isn't caused by read errors...
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Black CD-r:s are supposed to give less read errors (jitter) and have great compability. And you can get them with Vinyl grooves on the printed side. ("Groovy").

I use them because they look and feel nice, other because they believe they sound better.

Some reading on the subject:
http://www.genesisloudspeakers.com/w...DsII.pdf<br />
I started using Hi-Space's carbon black CDs several years back, when I believed the hype. Around 2 years after they were recorded, some 30% started to develop heavily distorted and juddery sound, starting at the last track of each disc. It was as if some curious rot had set it in; and it would work its way backwards through the CD rapidly, then stop around half way. No visible signs, just some carefully archived music completely ruined. I could only conclude that something was degrading in the discs, causing huge tracking errors. I don't use carbon discs anymore.
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But jitter isn't caused by read errors...
I can't say that I know the difference, sorry if I made someone confused :oops:

The cdr:s that I use (......http://www.htfr.com/more-info/?catno=MR109515 .....)claims that they're "extremely durable". If they start to deteriorate I would stop use them too... But I still don't know. I keep a second archive on DVD media so one have to go first.

I think they looks good and feels good so I will keep using them until ...
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It is true that some CDs are better than others...

To British readers, don't buy the cheap PC-Line CDs that are sold in PC World, and probably Currys and Dixons as well (these are the Dixons group's own brand).

I found that CD-Rs I have made using these don't play properly on my car CD-player (a 2004 reg Ford Focus' built in one), and a number of other domestic CD players. Whereas the TDK ones I now use play fine in all players.
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Please correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I know, some CD players has been deliberately set up, making them unable to play CD-R's. I've often heard rumours of that being the case for players in ghettoblasters as well as some car stereo ones.

I don't if it's true, but I do have a 4 year old Grundig ghettoblaster who cannot play CD-R's at all (no matter the disc type or brand)
Could this be an alternative way for the manufactors to prevent stuff from being copied?
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I doubt that's the case, as consumer CD-Rs are levied in the same way as blank tapes. It would be churlish for the hardware manufacturers to stop you playing music (yours, or others'), as you've payed for the privilege to record it. And it would probably be illegal to do so without warning the consumer.

The construction of portable players (in-car, personal, portables) will, in theory, be more rugged and rigid in order to cope with motion, shock and temperature - and it seems some are just incapable of handling CD-Rs.
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Default CD-RW's vs CD-R's and bargains and Name Brands

I own some pretty high-end stuff. Get this: A $1,800 Karaoke machine that has no problem at all playing any sort of CD-R's or store-bought CD's (NOT karaoke, though) will NOT play CD-RW's -- I told the manufacturer (Yamaha) and they said "we cannot be responsible for any media played in the machine beside store-bought Karaoke (Picture-CD or "MPEG") discs. You're welcome to return..." And my Cadillac WILL play CD-R's and my Toyota Minivan with the optional 200-Watt super-duper JBL sound system WILL NOT play 'em. Go figure. All the CD-R's are being created on a SONY $3,200 Stand-Alone HD CD burner driven by a PC with the latest software.
RE: Blank Disks: Save a penny, lose dollars. Maxell's PRO line are good ones; and the more you buy at a time; the more you save. Never had trouble with Sony's PRO line, either (the standard, discount-store Sonys that're always on sale are garbage, though) Buy Sony Pro through Sony's pro audio website. Tried to save some money once on a store brand; threw 'em all away. I'm in the business and I can't afford one, tiny little "tick" during playback.
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