Cool Edit Pro 2.0

[rhessel]

Hi everybody:

I am using the Cool Edit Pro 2.0 to process audio files. I am using the noise redution, the equalizer effects and so on.

Also I am using the Normalization effect which allows the normalization of the level of all files to the same volume. I do not feel it is working properly.

Have you ever tried to use this Normalization effect in this software? What is the final result?

Any recomendation for better results?

Cheers,

rhessel.

[Noman]

I have Adobe Audition, but I think it's the same software.

Try using "Group Waveform Normalize" and use limiting and/or use "hard limiting" instead of just Normalize

Read the helpfiles and you will get the difference. (Dont boost the files to much.... Average RMS of -12 to -8db is what I aim for with modern music.)

[rhessel]

Hi Noman:

Yes Adobe purchased the Cool Edit Pro and it is now called Adobe Audition.

That's what I have been doing so far but I still think that files don't have a consistent volume and seems that some songs are louder than others even after "Normalization". Don't know why.

Thanks anyway, I'll try different ways to do it.

Cheers,

rhessel

[BrunoRepublic]

Originally Posted by rhessel

That's what I have been doing so far but I still think that files don't have a consistent volume and seems that some songs are louder than others even after "Normalization". Don't know why.

It's due to dynamics, or lack thereof. The trend today is to give music less and less dynamics so that it sounds louder.

[QUINNY]

Normalization can only boost overall levels to a certain higher overall level.

Yes, the amount of compression already applied to a track will affect its perceived loudness when normalized. However, that isn't the whole story. Of just as much importance are the actual differences in the overall sound spectrum of each track.
For example: A track which has been mastered with a very soft sounding mid range will always sound much quieter than one with a full mid range sound. Alternatively, one with a thumping, over attenuated bassline, will by definition have a mid range that's suppressed (even though the mid range may be 'hard'). In either case, put two tracks next to each other and they will sound different. so far as perceived loudness is concerned.
To get every track sounding as near as possible to the next would need dynamic EQ applied, maybe a first go at limiting and Normalizing too.

So I'd say EQ is the answer to your question. This is one of the reasons why, back in the days when it mattered, mastering engineers would strive to make a track as flat as possible, when they cut to disc. In an ideal world, a track would look like a flat line when viewed on a fast attack, slow decay spectrum analyser. Try getting a spectrum analyser that doesn't jump around like Mexican jumping beans, nowadays. Oh, and 31 bands are not necessary to get a feel for a track's overall sound spectrum. 15 bands are more than enough, probably 5 would be OK.
Maybe Cool Edit Pro has a decent spectrum analyser tucked away somewhere?

[Eclipse]

Lots of good information about CEP and Audition on the AudioMasters forum at www.audiomastersforum.org/amforum/index.php

[Huffstutler]

I also have been trying to use Cool Edit Pro in attempting to balance out sound levels. There is a long process once posted on their support web site and I've used it in the past. It involves converting the wave to 32 bit float, opening each wave in a cue so to work on the file as a whole, running the analyzer to get the average decibel range, amplify each to the closest 0 decibel, then normalizing the entire wave. The down side to this is that when "normalizing", it doesn't compensate for spikes. If just one of the waves in the batch has a wild spike, normalize sees that as the loudest point and under amplifies the entire cue. I really don't see the sense to all of this because in the end, you have to amplify each segment anyway.

Does anyone have a simpler way to balance the volume between various sources to equal one another. Seems there are programs that do this?

Eric

[unclepaya]

I`m using a cool edit from v1.0, over a decade, now it is adobe audition v1.5, and all you have to do is read all help files and be gentle with all setings.
By the way, your ears are equipment that never lies, everything else can do.
p.s.
for normalization, nice, small and easy to use is:

http://www.logiccell.com/~mp3trim/