Peter Gabriel Fans (not disco related but.....)

[DJ Jimmy M]

I just figured i should open up a new thread to see if there are any other Peter Gabriel fans out here other than Zeca and myself. The subject "Why Is Eurodisco Hated??" is slowly turning into a Peter Gabriel forum..lol, not a bad thing at all, i'll just start a new thread for it and see if anyone else apreciates this great man.

DJ Jimmy M

[zeca azevedo]

Hey JIMMY,

COUNT ME IN! I'm on it, man. Gabriel's work boards on the sublime and the mundane, it combines emotion with intellect, formalism with instinct, experimentation with lovely melodies. Few POP composers achieved what GABRIEL did in his solo career, to mix popularity with ground-breaking music. And we can forget that the man is very active when you talk about human rights. And I'm not even talking about his great lyrics.
PETER GABRIEL and DAVID BOWIE are 2 of my musical heroes.

Peace

rael azevedo

[markydefad]

Hey guys,

I'm a big fan of Peter Gabriel & David Bowie also. Maybe not as devoted as you two, but I have a lot of their stuff.

Bowie has been a big disappointment with his output in the 1990's, however. The CD's have been soooo dismal, especially the awful "Outside" and those Tin Machine records.

Ironically, Bowie performed on David Letterman tonight doing a number from his new cd. The song he performed was titled "Slow Burn" and seemed a return to form--melodic rocker with catchy hooks. Encouraged by this performance, I just read 3 reviews of the new CD "Heathen" but, unfortunately 2 out of 3 were bad. Entertainment Weekly gave it a B+, but People said it was way too dark and the LA Daily News said the results were mixed--a few excellent tracks and a lot of murky ones.

Please, something like "Heroes", "Young Americans", "Fame", "Suffragette City", "Changes", "Golden Years", Scary Monsters, "Let's Dance", "China Girl". "Life On Mars", "Diamond Dogs", "Rebel, Rebel", "Sound + Vision", "Modern Love", "DJ", "Under Pressure" or "Cat People", Mr. Bowie. OK?

No more murk.

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Markydefad

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[Ricardo_Mata]

I guess there are four of us now! I love Gabriel's material. Unfortunately, it's 5:15 am and I haven't sleep since the World Cup started, so I'm not in the best condition to discuss the depth or significance of his work. Once I get some sleep I'll be able to...

[Paulo]

I like him too, specially the first 2 albums which are more melody oriented. The 3rd one is too experimental and non-melodic for my taste. In this new experimetal style, I think the fourth album is far better with more interesting rythms and songs. But to me his best album is SO.... I think it combines perfecty very beautiful songs with his groundbreaking experimentation.

If you guys like Peter Gabriel than I suggest you to listen (in case you haven't) to 2 other british singer/songwriters/keyboard players both of which make a kind of music very close to Gabriel's: THOMAS DOLBY & KATE BUSH.

THOMAS DOLBY has recorded 6 albums more or less in the same vein as Gabriel. The main difference is that his music is much more melodic than Gabriel' and more sophisticated than his. His first album is electronic oriented... then he changed into more experimental albums.

KATE BUSH began with 3 piano/keyboard oriented albums and then radically changed her style to an experimental sound in their fourth album THE DREAMING (clearly influenced by Peter Gabriel). The main difference is that her music is more melancholic than his.

[DJ Jimmy M]

Well Marky,
I agree that Bowie has not put out good stuff in the 90's. I wasnt aware of a new album. I'll have to check that out. The last good solid Bowie LP in my oppinion was "Never Let Me Down" from '87. A great 12" for "Day In Day Out" i may add too. I play it alot when im doing 80's club mixes. Id say my favorite Bowie is probably the Low,Heroes,Lodger and Scary Monsters LPs. I wonder if Bobby V. ever played anything from the Low or Heroes side B's? It would work in the Giorgio And Beyond sets, don't ya think?

DJ Jimmy M

[DJ Jimmy M]

In responce to the post about Thomas Dolby, yes, i own 2 lps of his. The ep "Blinded By Science" which ive loved since i got when i was very young. Also the follow up "The Flat Earth" i have as well. I wouldnt really concider it like Gabriel's work though. Thomas Dolby is a whole different form of music in my oppinion. Kate Bush, yes, the female Peter Gabriel no doubt. And of corse they got together on "Dont Give Up"

DJ Jimmy M

[Nano]

Hey Paulo, Kate Bush is awesome! Gabriel is good, but he bored me with his "Third World" turn, plus all my friends play those records (same for U2).
About Bowie, I agree about 90's output but the problem is, quite simply, the guy is getting old. Bowie did a whole career out of changing style and being one step beyond the sounds of the day. Now, in turn, he's asking people 20 years younger to produce/remix his records so he sounds "trendier" and "younger" (same for Mick Jagger and other veterans). Maybe he should call it quits and age gracefully.

[markydefad]

Maybe Bowie should just fuck the trends ("drum-n-bass"!!!!) and just write and perform classic rock as he did in his "Golden Years" period. When he attempted to keep up with the kids, he sucked, no one bought it, and he alienated his fans. Do what ya do well, Bowie. The tune I heard last night on Letterman "Slow Burn" has a lead guitar line by Pete Townshend on the cd, I read. The song had very catchy elements--so he IS trying to recapture what he used to do so well. Funny cause I think his old material has aged extremely well--why try to go grunge (Tin Machine) or drum-n-bass ( Earthling) when he can very comfortably do what he does so well--and please his fans.

Fuck the trends. "Heroes" sounds better today than any grunge crap. Yeah, and I include all the Nirvana output in that statement.

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[nrgbeat]

I hate both "Sledgehammer" and "Shock The Monkey".

[DJ Jimmy M]

Actualy today i was listening to a compilation CD i made of all Bowie's best from 1977 - 1980. All this stuff still sounds great and fresh. I really need to hear this new Bowie material. Does anyone know if the album is out in stores yet? If so, i'll be grabbing it the first chance i get. I havent bought a new Bowie album since "Never Let Me Down" in 1987. Everything else i heard from other people and didnt care for it. However i did receve a copy of his last album "Hours" from 2000 and it was a little better than the other crap he put out after "Never Let Me Down". Hopefully working with the same producer that brought us his most creative era will bring Bowie back strong. Lets hope.

DJ Jimmy M

[Paulo]

Hello Jimmy:
You're right, THOMAS DOLBY doesn't sound exactly like PETER GABRIEL, but the thing in common to both (as well as for KATE BUSH) is that they belong to same trend. They both approach the music in a very exclusive and particular way. PETER, KATE and THOMAS are often labelled as "80's experimental" or "80's art-rock". The 3 of them use an electronic background mixed with acoustic instruments, odd rythms, odd chord sequences and keyboard-made music.

Yes, THE FLAT EARTH is a fantastic album. The songs are very beautiful and odd sounding.

Jimmy, if you have a chance check his other albums: ALIENS ATE MY BUICK (1987), ASTRONAUTS AND HERETICS (1992) and his latest studio CD THE GATE TO THE MIND'S EYE (1996). He has released a live album in 2002 called FORTY. Although it is a live recording, the album is very electronic. He updated some of his early 80's synth-pop songs to a 2002 electronic beat.

If you like, check his website http://www.thomasdolby.com
Bye

[Paulo]

Yes NANO, Kate is awsome!
I think my favourite albums are the first 3 ones which are more piano and melody driven: THE KICK INSIDE 1978 / LION HEART 1979 / NEVER FOR EVER 1980.

But the "Gabriel influenced" trilogy (THE DREAMING 1982 / HOUND OF LOVE 1985/ THE SENSUAL WORLD 1989) is just as thrilling.

[DJ Jimmy M]

Is any of Thomas Dolby's lp's avalible on cd in the usa besides the hits compilation? I remember when "Aliens Ate My Buick" came out. I never heard anything off of it. I just remember in the record store seeing a big poster for it but, in the usa here, it didnt sell well and got no airplay. Then Thomas Dolby disapeared and we never heard from him again. The last we heard was in 1985 with his Dolby's Cube alias doing the theme song for a cheesy film over here called "Howard The Duck" (which i loved when it came out cause i was a kid...hehe). Also there was a kind of megamix if you would call it that under the Dolby's Cube name called "Get On Out Of My Mix". Its a good club track and was released as a 12" and as the b side on the 45 to "Hyperactive". Its in its full 6 min version on the 45 beleve it or not, same as the 12(i have the 45). Anyway, i would love to hear the music of Thomas Dolby after he disapeared over here.

DJ Jimmy M

[zeca azevedo]

Hi everybody,

these days I've listening to a BJORK song and I began to think that the icelandic goddess is heavily influenced by KATE BUSH. Do you think the same?

about BOWIE in the 90's: OK, his best work is in the 70's, but in the 90's BOWIE produced some excellent songs, even if his albums were uneven. I'll give you some examples:

on BLACK TIE WHITE NOISE: JUMP THEY SAY/I KNOW IT'S GONNA HAPPENS SOMEDAY (Bowie's take on MORRISEYS' song is simply brilliant)

on OUTSIDE: THE HEART'S FIFHY LESSON/HALLO SPACEBOY (NOT the horrendous PSB mix, please!)/NO CONTROL/STRANGERS WHEN WE MEET (a beautiful song)

on EARTHLING: LITTLE WONDER/SEVEN YEARS IN TIBET/DEAD MAN WALKING (great song, great recording - I love this one)

Well, I will not mention any song of the album HOURS because I didn't have it in my collection and I heard it twice on a friend's house, so I think I'm not able to give my opinion about its songs.

Peace
zeca azevedo