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    The "jet" sound on disco records

    When did the "jet" sounds on disco records come in (ie.2 exact records played at the same time giving you a jet sound)

    Prince's "Baby I'm a star" had the " jet" sound in the break.

    How many others?...and what was that all about?...and where did it begin?

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    In Belgium we called this effect "Pipelining" or "Tunneling" coz the sound is comparable when driving in a tunnel. You simple have to start a second copy of the same record a fraction later and so you get this spacy sphere. Perhaps it has something to do with the sound of f.i. Bruce Johnston's "Pipeline". Prince has used this trick a lot but he did it with synths. "I would die 4 U" is even based on that effect.

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    I think its called 'phasing'.

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    The "Jet" sound on disco records

    The earliest one I can remember is in the last minute or so in the 12" mix of the Trammps- "Thats Where The Happy People Go"....there is a phasing or flanging of the last round of the chorus.......gives it that extra "umph...." not that a Tom Moulton mix needed anything extra! And thats from '75, so that was pretty early in Disco......

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    The correct term is "flanging". Phasing is different, more synthetic and spacier.

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    Actually it is Phasing rather than Flanging. Phasing is for anything with a very small time difference up to about 10-12 milliseconds (thousandths of a second), Flanging is anything from 12 milliseconds to about 40-50 milliseconds where the term double tracking begins to be used, or Chorus if modulation has been applied. For example, at 120 BPM 0.5 percent relates to a difference of 2.5 milliseconds.This effect can only be obtained (when using two records) by keeping them more or less completely in sync and letting the normal speed variations of the turntable create the phasing. Either that or you'd have to have them within +/- 0.5 of a percent OR LESS, to have the effect for any length of time AND have one of the records catching up or loosing speed relative to the other. Any longer than that and the effect will be very short lived, but can sound very effective if it occurs at an interesting part of the record.

    Back in 1975, this effect would have been created in the studio by playing back 2 tape copies together and (probably) momentarily slowing one machine down by some sort of mechanical device (fingers) applied to the tape reels. In the Trammps record above, the two would have had to have been more or less completely in sync for that effect and would have taken ages and ages or lotsa luck to have worked.


    There were plenty of pop records from the late sixties that had the effect, so Disco was relatively late in latching on.

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