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    The Last Disco Song

    OK... I know the music never really died and it is just as hard to pinpoint a date when disco faded out as it is when it started. What I am seeking are opinions as to what song was probably the last one released during the traditional "disco era" heyday meaning 1974-1982 period. Maybe it exists past 1982 or earlier but would like to get an idea of what to look for.

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    "Glow" by Rick James = last classic disco song in

    Below is what I wrote to http://ilx.wh3rd.net/thread.php?msgid=5905979

    Though I object to the notion that disco as a form of music is relegated to only a particular time period, and prefer to use consistent scientific rather than inconsistent nostalgic criteria, I will confirm that "Fresh" by Kool and the Gang was the last disco hit on the American Billboard Pop chart of major consequence, reaching number 9 in June 1985. "Fresh" is also conveniently the last song on the 4-CD compilation "The Disco Box", which catalogs hits from the classic disco era. The period from 1985-1992 was when disco was almost completely out of sight in America - out of most nightclubs, off the radio, unavailable in stores, etc. I remember I stopped playing and thinking about disco after December 1984, and the last time during the 1980s that I remember encountering disco was when my schoolmates played a tape of "Shake, Shake, Shake (Shake Your Booty)" by K.C. and the Sunshine Band on a trip to Washington D.C. in the spring of 1985. As for disco culture, roller-disco was still going on during the first half of the 1980s, there was a "Discotheques" section in our local phone book in Connecticut as late as 1983 or 1984, and let's look at some lyrics of obscure American songs like "Born to Dance" by Fats Gaines Band (1983) ("...dancing at the disco 7 nights a week...") and "Tantalize" by Contrast (1984) ("...Everybody getting down with the sounds at the disco..."). By the way, the band Contrast was based in Savannah, Georgia - not even close to New York City or San Francisco where disco lingered longer than usual.

    On the American R&B chart, "Fresh" plus "Glow" by Rick James can be considered the last top-10 charting disco hits. When those two songs went off the radio is when the classic disco era definitively comes to a close.

    Certain hit songs during the 1990s and 2000s, notably "Cosmic Girl" by Jamiroquai (1996), are pure disco in every respect, while others, like "Strong Enough" by Cher (1998), are disco too but the beat is not the sort of beat one would encounter on a classic disco track. But they are modern disco, not classic disco.

    The Swedes might say that the last disco hit so far has been "Finally" by Fredrik Kempe (#18 Pop in March 2004). The Australians could point to that unfortunate remake of "Car Wash" by Christina Aguilera and Missy Elliott (#2 Pop in October 2004). Americans could reference Robin Thicke's "When I Get You Alone" (#29 Pop in November 2002). People in India would be able to say their last disco hit was sometime during the mid-1980s. By the way, a lot of modern disco is termed "disco" by the media and the artists themselves, as well as by listeners. The German compilation CD "Die Besten Disco-Hits" (2004) includes two modern disco hits, "Crying at the Discotheque" by Alcazar and "Murder on the Dancefloor" [by Sophie Ellis-Bextor], alongside classic disco.

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    It hasn't been written yet - listen to Cerrone's '03 "Hysteria" CD for example.

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    In terms of the fashion, the attitude, cars, clothes, the music, the sound, the dancing, the slang, the record labels, the clubs etc...

    1983-1985 perhaps?

    I cannot say for sure though because I was very young

    Obviously there are going to be several differences (in what I mentioned above) between the 70's and 80's all within the disco era

    The excitement of this time period will probably never be seen again because everything came together at the right time

    Not just with dance but in other styles of music as well

    Dance/Disco continued into the late 80's and early/mid 90's and enjoyed another prosperous era...

    Of course the music and the sound etc... had all changed by then but in the end it is all still disco

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    What I am seeking are opinions as to what song was probably the last one released during the traditional "disco era" heyday meaning 1974-1982 period. Maybe it exists past 1982 or earlier but would like to get an idea of what to look for.
    Are you looking for a song on the pop charts or a less mainstream song on an independent record label?

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    Personal Opinion

    On a personal level, the last disco song for me was "Ready For the 80's" by the Village People. Then it was Sheena Easton, Kim Carnes that i really liked, then Finally......New Wave Music.

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    What about TINA CHARLES "i love to love" 1986.....??? :)

    best regards

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    What about TINA CHARLES "i love to love" 1986.....???
    Well it is 2005 and the Price is right gameshow still plays instrumental disco music everyday during the showcase showdown portion of the show

    I do not know how old the songs are though :cry:

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    Many excellent disco-funk songs were still being made in 1985, but there was a definite change in style in '86.

    Tina Charles was '76.

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    Little Scotty,

    The oiginal release of "I Love To Love" by Tina Charles was in 1976. There was a "remix" of the song released in 1986.

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    When is it modern dance music and not disco?

    Someone mentioned Strong Enough (which IMHo is basically a remake, by the brilliant producers at Metro, of I Will Survive--complete with the string section)--how is the beat not a disco beat?

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    Quote Originally Written by EricHG23
    When is it modern dance music and not disco?

    Someone mentioned Strong Enough (which IMHo is basically a remake, by the brilliant producers at Metro, of I Will Survive--complete with the string section)--how is the beat not a disco beat?

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    I guess it's when you get a critical mass of artists/producers who decide to follow a new 'style'. In 1984-5 the disco-funk sound of the early eighties (if that's not a tautology) was still fashionably 'in'. In 1986 it wasn't. A new style emerged which was still 'dance music' but had now become sufficiently removed from what disco fans had been used to to cause the term 'disco' not to be used (so much).

    The interesting thing is, it's presumably still very easy for someone with a bit of talent, if they wanted to, to produce a song today that's indistinguishable from the lush, string-oriented, orchestral disco of the late 70s. The know-how surely hasn't been lost (they have enough examples of the genre to copy, for goodness sake!), but no one really chooses to do it. All recent disco clone songs (that I've come across at least) seem to have a correspondingly 'modern' feel to them so you wouldn't possibly be fooled into thinking they were really from the 70s.

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    The interesting thing is, it's presumably still very easy for someone with a bit of talent, if they wanted to, to produce a song today that's indistinguishable from the lush, string-oriented, orchestral disco of the late 70s. The know-how surely hasn't been lost (they have enough examples of the genre to copy, for goodness sake!), but no one really chooses to do it. All recent disco clone songs (that I've come across at least) seem to have a correspondingly 'modern' feel to them so you wouldn't possibly be fooled into thinking they were really from the 70s.
    I have to disagree

    An electro disco song maybe

    But not a live orchestral masterpiece

    Unless of course if an original producer from the original era decided to do so then it would be possible

    But as far as today's younger generation of producers forget about it

    The results would be average if not below average at best

    Do not cross your fingers and expect anything above below average

    That orchestra sh*t is not easy to do

    Especially when most of today's younger generation of producers would rather steal than come up with something original. They have all grown dependent on computers and samplers.

    Today's producers would not have the patience required

    Everything in today's society is instant satisfaction

    Just imagine if the producers from back in the day had the same technology of the producers of today

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    I can see where you're coming from spellbound, and I was perhaps a bit flippant with the phrase "very easy". The point I was trying to make is that all this isn't really lost knowledge, compared to, let's say, the majority of ancient greek classic literature, which is gone forever. We haven't yet forgotten what the great orchestral masterpieces sounded like, and they'll be around forever, so I'm pretty sure there must be some people out there with the talent to produce new music from that genre. Of course you have to find someone who (a) has the talent, and (b) wants to do it. That combination is probably fairly rare.

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    True

    At this point I feel that I would have to keep studying all of quality 12" disco records I own in depth for another 10 years in order to be at where I need to be to even attempt an original orchestra dance recording

    There are WAY too many things (sounds) going on during a quality disco recording to just sit down an complete one track in just a few hours

    If I ever were to make an attempt everything would have to be live instruments and no computers whatsoever

    I would use a gospel quality singer with backup vocalists in addition to a full 25+ piece orchestra

    Any younger/current producer today with a background in current r&b, house, hip hop etc... would have a very difficult time combining all of the various disco elements live and piece all of them together in all of the right places to form a quality livd recording.

    Without the help of a computer most would of them would get frustrated and give up. Most people do not realize how difficult it is to produce a quality live disco recording. It is much easier to programm a sampler and rip off someone else's original material. It is much easier to work with a computer rather than live musicians.

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    Sorry, but that ain't necessarily so. Many of the Disco records were produced under 'conveyor belt' circumstances and many would have taken a very short time to record and mixdown. Any classically trained musician would be able to make a Disco record, but and this is a BIG but, they'd also neeed to know something about Funk, Soul, Jazz and Swing to even start to pull it off. There are countless thousands of classically trained (young) musicians, but nowadays none of 'em is gonna 'feel it' like guys did in the '70s, 'cos the everyday musical fabric is soooo different now.

    Disco was a music of its time as is any popular music.

    However, have you heard any of the recent Funk tracks that have been made to sound retro? Those guys even use antiquated recording gear, instruments and amps to get the 'right' sound. They lurve distortion and tape hiss. To my ears, of the ones I've heard, they still end up mostly sounding like a parody of the real thing.

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    Not really disco, but I thought Stock, Aitken and Waterman did a fairly decent job with "Roadblock" during the late 80s 'rare groove' era. That had an oldish feel to it.

    If only Costandinos were to have one final fling and bring out another masterpiece...

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    QUINNY

    Can you give me some of these FUNK retro sounding track names and artists to listen to?

    Also, when I frequented the discos 3-4 nights a week, in 1981 it started to die and more rock-disco tunes were played. By 1982 it was replaced with New Wave. I wasn't even aware of disco existing past 1982 until many years later!

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    I've only ever heard them on BBC 6 Music Funk Show (Keb Darge may have something to do with some of them). To be honest, I didn't take much notice 'cos I didn't really like 'em.

    Dusty Groove probably have some of them or maybe somewhere like Juno records in London.

    I think you'll find something if you google good enuff.

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    My two penneth worth....

    Of course the golden era for Disco was 1977-1980, when most of the classic tracks were produced (IMHO). There were still a lot of Disco made in the 80's.....it got a bit thin after that but I can think of some tracks that are 'classic' disco - original sounding made quite recently - e.g. Sing It Back - Moloko, Kylie Minogue - Can't Get You Out of..etc Deelite - Groove is in the Heart etc, - OK it's a bit poppy/commercial but it's 4/4 beat, has distinctive bass lines and reasonably good arrangements.

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    Here's a group I haven't seen anyone mention yet....

    In my opinion if there was anyone remotely close to the disco sound of the '70s, and mainly played live w/o computer tech equipment (as far as I know I think, but don't quote me), I do like Jamiroquai!

    2 words, "Canned Heat." Now how's THAT?! LOL!

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    But would you ever be fooled into thinking Canned Heat was a late 70s song? Difficult, I know, because it's a hypothetical question, and we are all familiar with Jamiroquai's vocals, but I don't think so.

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    HMMMM, Canned Heat? Very possible indeed. Well besides Cerrone's Hysteria which someone did mention, I don't know anyone who basically stayed true to the disco sound of the '70s, TODAY! Of course I know I'm wrong so bear with me. :cry:

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    Sorry, but that ain't necessarily so. Many of the Disco records were produced under 'conveyor belt' circumstances and many would have taken a very short time to record and mixdown.
    The recoring and the mixdown would be the easy part. the difficult part would definitely be producing an original tune from scratch

    I am not saying that it cannot be done, I am saying that it would be very very very difficult

    If I were to ever make an attempt I would prefer to do it all live

    Any classically trained musician would be able to make a Disco record, but and this is a BIG but, they'd also neeed to know something about Funk, Soul, Jazz and Swing to even start to pull it off. There are countless thousands of classically trained (young) musicians, but nowadays none of 'em is gonna 'feel it' like guys did in the '70s, 'cos the everyday musical fabric is soooo different now.
    Exactly

    It is going to be very difficult for them to remember/feel the excitement of the 1970's and then transform it into a classic or above average dance tune

    Today's house/hip hop producers would rather steal somebody else's music or produce original cell phone ringtone sound effect looped garbage

    The Canned Heat record sounds more like late 1990's 70's nostalgia than an actual 1970's disco recording

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    Disco can evolve (within certain limits) just like any other form of music. It's hilarious to read suggestions that disco has to sound fully orchestrated and from the late 1970s to be disco. Then under that criteria a lot of the minimalist material that imitated Chic and stripped down things even more wouldn't be disco, nor anything from the 1980s, nor anything with distinctive flavors mixed from other genres, and I refuse to allow this sort of distortion to stand.

    Headlamp, please show me the name of the bass player in "Can't Get You Out of My Head". That song sounds ultra-modern to me. "Groove is in the Heart" doesn't have a disco-flavored bassline; it's sampled from a non-disco track from way back. If those are disco then disco has no meaning. Am I the only person who can consistently distinguish between a real (live-played) bassline and a synthesized one? Eric claims I have some special skill in this. Of course, real bass isn't required all the time; Peaches and Herb's biggest hit didn't have a real bass, but it did have several other disco elements so it still fits the disco category.

    I constantly find it bizarre that I took all this time over 4 years to track down new disco tracks, link to stores that offer samples of them, and scientifically analyze them - and people keep going around like this is some mystery question or that at most there are only a half-dozen answers. Am I an invisible poster? Thanks to those select few of you who've noticed I'm not a ghost.

    A gift for the Jamiroquai fan here: The last classic-style disco song is "(Don't) Give Hate A Chance" by Jamiroquai (June 2005). But you're a fan and didn't know they had a new album out? It gets its U.S. release this fall.

    http://www.juno.co.uk/products/182155-02.htm

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