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    Bourgie Bourgie - Ashford & Simpson

    Does anybody know if the full version of "Bourgie Bourgie" by Ashford & Simpson is available somewhere on CD?

    I've been looking for it forever.

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    I am trying to track down an original 12" 1979, without much success - My original copy was stolen in 1984. I am also not willing to pay extortinate prices via ebay. I'd settle for the Gladys Knight version.

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    Gladys Knight's version's so much better anyway.

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    Quote Originally Written by SandraDee
    Gladys Knight's version's so much better anyway.
    I disagree. I've heard them both and there's no comparison. No knock on Gladys' version, because it's also very good.

    If you'd heard it played by Larry Levan at the Garage you might feel differently about it. The cut was amazing.

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    So, was there a 12" version of the Ashford & Simpson track? I have the 6:06 instrumental LP version on CD...

    from AMG:
    "Send It" also includes the dance-oriented instrumental "Bourgie Bourgie," which became a vocal number when, in 1980, lyrics were added for a remake by Gladys Knight & the Pips. "Bourgie Bourgie" was a bigger hit for that group, although Ashford & Simpson's original version enjoyed a fair amount of exposure in dance clubs"
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    So are you saying that Ashford & Simpson had a 12" with a their vocals on it? I often wondered why they released it as a long instrumental--although it is most lovely like that. I asked this before..and got no answer...
    Or are you saying that there was a 12" of the instrumental version?

    Remember, John Davis & the Monster Orchestra also did a version with a vocal.

    I made a tape with all 3 versions in a row...and I pick the A&S instrumental version as my fave.

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    Quote Originally Written by markydefad
    So, was there a 12" version of the Ashford & Simpson track? I have the 6:06 instrumental LP version on CD...

    from AMG:
    "Send It" also includes the dance-oriented instrumental "Bourgie Bourgie," which became a vocal number when, in 1980, lyrics were added for a remake by Gladys Knight & the Pips. "Bourgie Bourgie" was a bigger hit for that group, although Ashford & Simpson's original version enjoyed a fair amount of exposure in dance clubs"
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    So are you saying that Ashford & Simpson had a 12" with a their vocals on it? I often wondered why they released it as a long instrumental--although it is most lovely like that. I asked this before..and got no answer...
    Or are you saying that there was a 12" of the instrumental version?

    Remember, John Davis & the Monster Orchestra also did a version with a vocal.

    I made a tape with all 3 versions in a row...and I pick the A&S instrumental version as my fave.
    I don't know if there was a 12" version or not, but it definitely had some vocals. I can't find ANY version of it on CD right now unfortunately.

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    As I said, Ashford and Simpson's "Send It" (1977/WB) has the 6:06 instrumental version of "Bourgie, Bourgie."

    That LP is on a CD released in 1996.

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    I have the A&S version on "Live @the Paradise Garage" which clocks in at 5:47

    The John Davis Orchestra version is 6:12 and that one is indeed very good but less known perhaps.

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    I have to say im not a huge fan of the JD orchestra version. I found the vocals were quite cheesy and unnecessary. The A&S version is just a beautiful piece of music which is timeless and works equally well for both listening and dancing purpose, but then Nick Ashford & Valerie Simpson are geniuses so its no surprise that their version is so good

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    its also on recent c.d DISCO CONNECTION VOL 2

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    Quote Originally Written by markydefad
    As I said, Ashford and Simpson's "Send It" (1977/WB) has the 6:06 instrumental version of "Bourgie, Bourgie."

    That LP is on a CD released in 1996.
    I believe you, but I haven't been able to find that CD.

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    Quote Originally Written by Videoskooter
    I have the A&S version on "Live @the Paradise Garage" which clocks in at 5:47

    The John Davis Orchestra version is 6:12 and that one is indeed very good but less known perhaps.
    I also have the version on "Live @the Paradise Garage", but I want the original version of it.

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    Disco Classics Vol. 2

    I believe one of the versions I'm looking for is on Disco Classics, Vol. 2.



    This is actually the John Davis and the Monster Orchestra version though.

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    It was released in the UK - as a 12" - but not many were produced hence its rarity. I've seen a few come up on ebay....it was released on the Polydor label here.

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    I'm sure this has been discussed here before.
    I've got it on a Warners UK only 12" as the b-side to a later single (can't remember what though!). You need to watch out though... all the copies i've heard (including mine!) have a mastering fault where the master speeds up like crazy for a few seconds.
    Was a long time before I found out this wasn't just a crazy part of the mix!!!

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    Maybe the best bet for finding "Bourgie, Bourgie" by Ashford & Simpson is, as discodisk suggested...

    Disco Connection, Volume 2

    AMG lists it as being released in 2004..but no track listings. :evil:

    I have the first volume, which was good. :D


    I'm guessing the A&S "Send It" cd is outta print now? :-?

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    Well, if you want it bad enough and hurry, somebody is selling the cd at ebay for $40. I have the album. Nice album.

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    Is there an extended mix of Gladys Knights version?

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    Doh!

    Quote Originally Written by paul
    Well, if you want it bad enough and hurry, somebody is selling the cd at ebay for $40. I have the album. Nice album.
    Well it turns out there was a much simpler solution after all. I logged in to the iTunes store on a whim, just hoping I'd find at least one version. Guess what? - They have 2 by Gladys Knight, the John Davis version AND the Ashford and Simpson version. However, the A & S version is only 1:26, so it may be from the Live at the Paradise Garage CD, which I already have. I'm listening to Gladys as I write this. Total cost - $1.98 for one of the GK cuts and John Davis.

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    For what it's worth, I have "Bourgie Bourgie" by Ashford & Simpson on a 12" import (Warner Brothers K 17679). It is the B-side of "Love Don't Make It Right" There is no time on the label, but it's about 6 minutes. I believe there are some vocals in it. I'm having my turntable repaired so I can't listen to it right now to confirm.


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    Re: Doh!

    Quote Originally Written by tehuti
    Quote Originally Written by paul
    Well, if you want it bad enough and hurry, somebody is selling the cd at ebay for $40. I have the album. Nice album.
    Well it turns out there was a much simpler solution after all. I logged in to the iTunes store on a whim, just hoping I'd find at least one version. Guess what? - They have 2 by Gladys Knight, the John Davis version AND the Ashford and Simpson version. However, the A & S version is only 1:26, so it may be from the Live at the Paradise Garage CD, which I already have. I'm listening to Gladys as I write this. Total cost - $1.98 for one of the GK cuts and John Davis.
    Yo, tehuti...go to www.amazon.co.uk for that Disco Connection CD, it has the FULL (and ONLY) version of the A&S version.

    Track Listing of Disco Connection 2
    1. Ashford & Simpson - Bourgie Bourgie (12” Mix)
    2. Herbie Mann - Hi-Jack
    3. The Trammps - That’s Where The Happy People Go
    4. Chic - Everybody Dance
    5. Sister Sledge - He’s The Greatest Dancer
    6. Rose Royce - Is It Love You’re After (12” Mix)
    7. Chaka Khan - I Know You, I Live You
    8. Patrick Adams Presents Phreek - Everybody Loves A Good Thing
    9. Goody Goody - It Looks Like Love
    10. Five Special - Why Leave Us Alone (Long 12” Mix)
    11. Mass Production - Cosmic Lust (12” Mix)
    12. Gino Soccio - I Wanna Take You There (Now)

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    Re: Doh!

    Yo, tehuti...go to www.amazon.co.uk for that Disco Connection CD, it has the FULL (and ONLY) version of the A&S version.

    Track Listing of Disco Connection 2
    1. Ashford & Simpson - Bourgie Bourgie (12” Mix)
    2. Herbie Mann - Hi-Jack
    3. The Trammps - That’s Where The Happy People Go
    4. Chic - Everybody Dance
    5. Sister Sledge - He’s The Greatest Dancer
    6. Rose Royce - Is It Love You’re After (12” Mix)
    7. Chaka Khan - I Know You, I Live You
    8. Patrick Adams Presents Phreek - Everybody Loves A Good Thing
    9. Goody Goody - It Looks Like Love
    10. Five Special - Why Leave Us Alone (Long 12” Mix)
    11. Mass Production - Cosmic Lust (12” Mix)
    12. Gino Soccio - I Wanna Take You There (Now)
    Thanks. Amazon.com also has it ($21.99 US).

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    :o I have never heard a version of "Bourgie, Bourgie" by Ashford & Simpson that contains vocals. If there's one out there I'd really like to know about it.

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    Re: Doh!

    Quote Originally Written by tehuti
    Yo, tehuti...go to www.amazon.co.uk for that Disco Connection CD, it has the FULL (and ONLY) version of the A&S version.
    Thanks. Amazon.com also has it ($21.99 US).
    I have often found that buying UK titles FROM the UK turns out to be cheaper than buying from a US site. I usually buy MORE than one disc at a time- it REALLY saves money. And Amazon UK routinely DEDUCTS a pound for overseas transactions~!! So that 6.99 (pounds) Disco Connection REALLY only costs 5.99 (pounds)~!! Which is roughly about what US 11.00? Select another title or 2 (or 3) and the savings MULTIPLY and offset the higher shipping costs. PEACE~!!

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    Quote Originally Written by swerzer
    For what it's worth, I have "Bourgie Bourgie" by Ashford & Simpson on a 12" import (Warner Brothers K 17679). It is the B-side of "Love Don't Make It Right" There is no time on the label, but it's about 6 minutes. I believe there are some vocals in it. I'm having my turntable repaired so I can't listen to it right now to confirm.


    swerzer
    I realized that I had burned it on to a CD. It's about 6:04 and it DOES NOT have any vocals.....I thought it did but I guess I was thinking of the John Davis version.

    swerzer

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