Reply With QuoteOriginally Written by remicks
I have a copy of LADY BUMP from 1975 12'' single on Atlantic Records.Why was this considered an import????????????????
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--- I see on the Billboard Compilation chart that Penny McLean's "Lady Bump" , which up until now had been played as an import , ---- has been issued as a " DJ only " 12" ---- and thereupon surges up to #4 ----- making it the most well-received song on this new 12" format so far in the disco era.
**** I believe this is the first song to actually use the term " DISCO MUSIC " **** -------- :)
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I have a copy of LADY BUMP from 1975 12'' single on Atlantic Records.Why was this considered an import????????????????
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hmmmmm.....well, I added the 12" promo info to that listing because of that info in the Moulton column....it's relevant to the club play aspect (clubs are playing the 12"); the retail buyers still have only the 45 to buy.
"Lady Bump" was first listed as a German import on Jupiter Records; then as a Canadian import on Columbia; now it is a domestic release on Atco (12" promo for DJs/ 45 single format for the public)
As 1976 progresses, the term Billboard uses is "disco disk" in reference to the newly emerging 12" record. Now, in late 1975, they may say "special disco version" or "disco edit" or something like that.
But they have not used the term 12" in the chart....I added that, as I've been underlining each week the release of new records in the DJ promo only 12" format as revealed by Moulton.
I hope that clarifies.
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Well, we know that "Lady Bump" was released as a promo 12" --- because of the Tom Moulton column and this picture of the label in the music vault --------
http://www.discomusic.com/records-more/3695_0_2_0_C/
----- This means that at #4 --- "LADY BUMP" is the most successful 12" pressing so far.
--- Again the use of the term "disco music" in this song's lyrics --- is particularly noteworthy . It may be the first concrete example of this terminology .... the more specific name for this new genre of music . Rather than just any and all "music that happens to get played in discos " in general, this specific sound is now pin pointed as .....:D "DISCO MUSIC" ! :D ....
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For the record, the first time the term 12" occurs on the Billboard Disco charts is in the Retail charts for Downstairs, Colony & Melody Song Shops on May 29, 1976.
The record: "Ten Percent" by Double Exposure.
So, as we have been told many times, this does appear to be the first 12" made commercially available to the record-buying public. The success of this prompts other labels to start releasing their new product in this format...and some records that have already been released as " DJ promo only" get commercial releases (think stuff like Frankie Valli's "Swearin' To God" from the spring of 1975). I have Frankie's 12" which says "1975" on the A-side--but has material from "1976" on the b-side.
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----- Marky ..... might you have any thoughts about "Lady Bump" being the first song to have the term "DISCO MUSIC" in its' lyrics?.... ( Like, is it?) :-? :D
---- Also I'm wondering if you've already covered certain topics in previous chart and column discussions . Such items as.......
--- Which song first contained the word " disco " in its' lyrics?
--- Which song first contained the word " disco " in its' title ? when reviewing the charts I have come across "Disco Sax" .... as a possibility
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Hmmmm....it would seem that the term "disco" must have appeared in some record by the end of 1975...but... :-? :-? :-?
I do know that "Disco-that's where the happy people go" is coming down the pike pretty soon in early 1976.
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I am the "GUEST". :roll:
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Remicks, I believe you are not picking up the lyrics right, Penny sings "Just the music takes me high", not 'Disco Music' takes me high”, and the title has double meaning, Lady Bump is referring to more than her 'Dancing' abilities…
By '75 this type of 'Pretty" euro-disco was beginning to creep into Djs playlist,(but was not called "Disco Music " yet )this sound was popular because it was fun to dance to, and because it was different and new at the time, and indeed it was later dubbed "Disco music" by marketing forces that need labels to move products, and since this Euro Disco sound almost took over Disco-theque music in the late 70's (in the USA) it made sense to use the “Disco Music” label, but this doesn't mean that all the other music played in clubs until now is not 'Disco' as in the original sense of the word, ( abbreviation of Discotheque), omitting, excluding, or discarding all this great Disco-theque music legacy from any discussion of “Dance” clubs of the 70’s is a great blunder since the early to mid 70’s period produced some of the most memorable and timeless club hits of the entire “Disco Era” experience…..
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Thanks MixMachine ! I have to admit I am just using recall for what I thought were the lyrics to this song since i don't have it handy . You'll notice I already was being vague ,because I wasn't sure of the lyrics ...thought they were "Disco music makes me high" but thought it also possible that they were ... "Disco Music makes me hot " .... now it appears that I had them even more incorrect than that!
"Just the music takes me high ...." ... hmmm ..... not the same thing at all and certainly negates my assertion!
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I agree with your comments to a large extent. There was this initial period when clubs were first beginning to get popular and DJ's played music to create a mood for their club/bar. This mood varied greatly from place to place ... the DJ's job was to play music that drew a good crowd .. the owners wanted that crowd to drink ($$$$). The music chosen varied greatly through the night ( and day too for that matter at some places) ...campy & fun stuff, sing alongs, slow ballads , hits, danceable etc. More and more DJs started playing just the music that would get people to dance ... at first the dance floors were incidental to the bar scene, just some square wooden floor in the back corner. . I can even remember DJs complaining that some club owners would bitch at them that the patrons were dancing too much !!!! ..(and therefore not drinking). These bars would get packed ,standing room only . That lead to change #1 ---- instead of bars that happened to play dance music ... bigger clubs started opening that played dance music and happened to serve alcohol . ( the emphasis , shifted) The owners learned something, they could make money two ways ..... -- they could charge money just to get in , and ... hot sweaty dancers got thirsty ...
--- Then it seemed that clubs /bars popped up everywhere using live DJs . The sound systems became more sophisticated , the clubs bigger, the use of lighting. And the music developed to suit this improved venue. The discs' mixing and pressing became really important , the crisp clarity of the recordings. I think some very good music didn't get played after this simply because their sound quality sounded crappy in the big room clubs.
----- That's a little bit of what I think was going on . Perhaps I am stating the obvious ---- its late .....
To sum it up for now ....
I would suggest that there was a transition : from music that happened to get played by djs in clubs ---- to music that was created FOR djs to play in clubs. And I find that that to be the true disco music. Would you agree somewhat?
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--- Hopefully when I wake up I will have "Lady Bump" to listen to....
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--- I'm not sure what's taking her high , but something's sure got her slurring her words!! ---
Was there such a thing as "jitsu" music !!! --- I think "Jitsu Music" takes her high !!
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(there's another funny line in there .... "no I don't need a break ... 'cause me head's start to shake...." ...... funny on its own , but I thought it said .... "No I don't need a drink ... 'cause me hands got the shakes " ) :lol:
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I think English is not her first language(German ?) so some of the wording is funny...
She sings "JUS-DE music takes me high" the whole premise of the song is that she is a "Bump" freak, and the moment she hears ClUB music :D all she wan't to do is Bump, the very last instance just before the record runs out(7") is the most clear...Was there such a thing as "jitsu" music !!! --- I think "Jitsu Music" takes her high !!
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Yeah , the line is "No, I don't need a drink, cause my head start to shake" so come on let's dance"...again all she wants to do is bump....(there's another funny line in there .... "no I don't need a break ... 'cause me head's start to shake...." ...... funny on its own , but I thought it said .... "No I don't need a drink ... 'cause me hands got the shakes " ) :lol:
the funny line for me is this one " tonite when you hear the music play, you'll find love for making everywhere" :o I know what she means, but this is clearly a direct to English translation from a different language (I do it all the time); I also thought the background vocalist chanted "what it is" a common greeting back then (similar to 'what's up today') , but after listening to the instrumental flip you can clearly hear "Look At Me", I guess in keeping with the 'Bump' freak theme....
I"ll bet I must be the only one in the world listening to this cut now :lol: :lol: :lol:
this is the original Canadian 7" release, AFAIK this is the first time it was available in USA retails stores, later the same 7" version was released on ATCO.
http://bellsouthpwp.net/m/i/mixmach/...n_LadyBump.jpg
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Mixmachine , please see my response to you on the last post of the first page of this thread---- i'd be interested in your input ......
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....... and you were right !!! :) here are the words to the song -----
-------- LADY BUMP --------
........... lyrics :
It's a saturday night and I feel all right
So come on, let's dance - look at me
All I wanna do is to bump with you
So come on, let's dance - look at me tonight.
When we hear the music play you might
Learn from me in every way.
They call me lady bump, lady bump it's no lie - ah
Lady bump, lady bump - just the music takes me high.
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They call me lady bump, lady bump uh uh uh ah
Lady bump, lady bump look at me and you'll know way.
No, I don't need a break 'cause my hips got to shake -
Ooh come on, let's dance - look at me
When I feel your touch - baby, it's to much
Ooh come on, let's dance - look at me tonight....
They call me lady bump, lady bump it's not lie - ah
They call me lady bump, lady bump uh uh uh ah
They call me lady bump, lady bump uh uh uh ah
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I think some of our lyrics were more enjoyable ....... 8)
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------ The 12" version omits the following spoken intro which is included on the 7" single.
" Hey, I'm so glad you come in here tonight.
I'm so itchin' to dance I can't stand it ... and I was countin' on dancin' with you. "
...........................I'm so itchin' to dance I can't stand it :P .....
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Penny's got an itchin' in her feet and baby she can't scratch it. :lol: :lol: :lol:
"Lost inside adorable illusion...."
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----- :lol: ------
---- Unlike "Fly Robin Fly " , "Lady Bump " was a big flop beyond the disco scene in the USA ..... didn't even crack the Top 40 ..... not sure where it peaked on the Top 100 ....or world wide . Yet as we can see on the compilation charts it was huge in the clubs .
---- any thoughts as to why ? -----
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OK .... don't mind me .. just entertaining myself here .... :) :) ...... although feel free to jump in any time .....
Over on Marky's chart , Penny stays up there at #1 for week number two .. making it a respectable hit if not a respectable tune. And without any contradictory evidence ..... I will continue to assert that this is the first really successful 12" pressing . ...and the first to go to #1.
Why was "LADY BUMP " so successful ? I'd say for a number of reasons --
--- 1)--- It was a 12" .... this exciting new format now getting into the hands of more DJs who welcomed it.
--- 2) --- Because it was a 12", the sound was spectacular in the clubs . This was the beginning of clubs paying more serious attention to the quality of their sound systems . Not only to better present the sound quality but also for another important reason .. these brighter , low-end oriented records were blowing out their speakers!!
---3) --- Part of the fun of the sound of this record was the occassional shrieking "Ahhhhhh!" that filled the club. Hard to ignore even while nursing your Coors at the bar. I would suggest that this was an intentional "sound effect " stylized for loud club play .. a good device for a disco record ..... not something a producer would use for a radio oriented record where it might even be heard as more of a distraction/ annoyance.
--- 4) --- This was after all Penny McLean from Silver Convention deserving of at least some indulgence .
--- 5) --- Many songs are already referring to bumping ... including this one .... so I am assuming that the dance craze of the same name is now really popular.
--- 6) --- Very good timing . There's a big lull in the charts right now , which is typical in midwinter. Also I think this is an in between period right here. Many sounds have just been introduced ...Salsoul, Donna Summer , Phily Int., Gloria Gaynor , Free Man ...... and now everyone is back in the studio .... prepping the music that is about to take this genre by storm .... to its exciting new heights. ...... :D .........
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Penny had a massive sales chart hit with Lady Bump all thru Europe. Very big on radio too. Even the album was huge on pop charts in many countries.
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In 1975 Hamilton Bohanon released on the Dakar label a 7" single Disco Stomp Pt.1 and Disco Stomp Pt.2 on the B side.It was from his" Insides Out" album.Lyrics were "Everybody do the disco stomp"
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---- Jussik.... I can't comment on what flys , Robin , flys in Europe :roll:.... but for one thing Penny was European and probably had high visability there . . But just like here in the States .. its hard to explain certain songs that make it .... In the USA " LADY BUMP " just didn't catch on beyond the discos... and somehow I just can't imagine middle America driving around in their cars listening to someone with a thick accent screaming "AAAAHHH" over the radio... :D ....
Over in your neck of the woods, , please , tell me that ..... Penny's follow up ... " 1-2-3-4- FIRE " didn't fare so well !!!?..!!
------BigM ..... in another thread ( Disco Queen) I tried to pinpoint the first song with the word "disco" in its title and found "Disco Queen" by Hot Chocolate on Marky's charts in April of 1975 ... did Bohannon predate that do you think ? Was "Disco Stomp " on the charts ? I'd have to look again...
----- Besides that, I was also wondering if there was a song with the word "disco" in its lyrics .. that predates any songs that also have it as part of the song's title.. ??? ......
In this particular case I thought "LADY BUMP " was the first to coin the phrase "DISCO MUSIC" ...but it turned out it was jus de music that takes her itchy feet high :D .....The search continues !!!!
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I'm very happy to say that Lady Bump passed me by. I only know of it since (and my ears have never been the same).
It was, by all accounts, not a patch on Fly Robin Fly, both musically and in popularity terms (except maybe in Germany and the odd Scandinavian country, where quite frankly, they were generally Disco philistines). Gawd, I was taken to German discotheques, by my then girl friend and the music was absolute crud. All the Germans and Scandinavians who ever asked me for requests were at least 6 months behind and showed the most awful taste, without exception.
(tongue in cheek) Jussi, more or less proves my point. No one knows of trashier music than he.
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1-2-3-4-FIREEE!!
No, I honestly can't recall even once hearing the follow-up to the cheerful Lady Bump played in any club, anywhere I ever went to. That includes the capital of Great Britain which must have lagged behind as seriously as my country when it came to dance music back in the 70's as Lady Bump was decidedly a biggie there too around the same time as it was hot in the US and the rest of the world, with the exception of some clubs in Spanish resorts that obviously recieved advance copies of everything half a year prior to their realese, perhaps
beamed down from the Kunze/Levay etc guys minds - ? :-)
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Jussi: I'm still glad that Lady Bump passed me by. :D
You'd be surprised at what was played and when it was played in sunny Mallorca circa '75 -'77.
Remember, I used to hammer the death out of things like Zone by the Rhythm Makers among many, many other brilliant underground records. No Scandinavian had ever heard that before, I can assure you.
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Mallorca Uncovered? El Exegano, Superstar...those were the clubs I remember going to in 1976 while on the island with a bunch of noisy louts and what we got was The Ritchie Family belting out Arabian Nights and Al Martino doing Volare...no Rhythm Makers in sight anywhere. There were other clubs we went to for sure like a huge dome-shaped thing in the middle of El Terreno, but there too the sounds were the same - Andrea True, the Ritchies etc. I know we should have gone partying with the sexy locals in the old town proper but the lure of easy, quick sleazy fun of El Terreno was too strong for guys like us back then. Too much sun, too many Cuba Libres, too little time.
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Remicks, I don’t know if this 1977 song “Disco Music" by Oliver , written by the Morali/Rome team was the *first* to coin this term, but it certainly supports my recollections that the original meaning of the word “Disco” (extended version/remix created for Disco-theques) began to change in the late 70’s during the Post-Saturday Night Fever period, especially with the invasion of “Pretty” Euro-Disco spearheaded by Producers like the Morali/Rome team and groups like "Silver Covention"...remicks
**** I believe this is the first song to actually use the term " DISCO MUSIC " **** -------- :)
I forgot to post this here for you before, Street People’s ballad “I wanna slow down with you” (at the Disco) is one of the first club songs I know of that uses the term “Disco” in the lyrics, and yes, this ballad was a “Disco” hit, despite what modern ‘revisionist’ may claim today…
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