Sandra Dee--Dead

**markydefad** · February 22nd, 2005, 02:01 PM

The actress--not our serial poster from "Manchester, England, England, across the Atlantic sea!!!" .

Whenever I see the initials SD, I think of Sandra Dee--so I nicknamed "Steely Dan", Sandra Dee. When "Steely Dan" somehow couldn't post anymore using that name--he swtched to Bona Boy (no one liked that one, apparently)...so he recently was incarnated as SandraDee.

Then the Real Miss Dee Dies!!!! I saw her on film clips this weekend on the telly....and realized she must have died. :cry:

Sandra Dee was my passion before Miss Ross captured my heart. :D

She was a big star in the late Fifties-early Sixties; then just faded away into alcoholism and anorexia. Soooooo saaaaad. :cry:

Kate Bosworth plays her in the Bobby Darin biopic "Beyond The Sea"; Kevin Spacey annoys me --so I haven't seen it yet.

I could kick myself for not going to see her do "Love Letters" with former co-star John Saxon back in the late Eighties in Bev Hills. I saw Gena Rowlands & Ben Gazzara--BUT I shoulda gone back to see Sandy.

**DISCODISK** · February 22nd, 2005, 02:33 PM

dont know who she is marky any film clues?? mind you that has helped clear up the you and sandy dee/ steely dan thing i always wondered what you and he were on about,jeez does that mean hes gonna have to change his name again outa respect,im a bit behind on his names im still on bona boy! nobody liked ? but he is quite bona ive met him!

he'll be in morning for a few days then back with a new name 'canal street cruiser' ill guess

thought of you the other day marky i watched 'whatever happened to baby jane' just too much! i was cleanin out the bird cage and the bird jusffflewout sorr-eee :lol:

**markydefad** · February 22nd, 2005, 03:33 PM

DD, you don't know Miss Dee???? :o :o :o

You've never seen "Imitation Of Life?" (Lana Turner's daughter)

"A Summer Place?"

"Gidget?"???????!!!!!

She was at her peak (US Top 10 boxoffice stars; circa 1959-1962)

Her filmography:

Lost (1983) .... Penny
Fantasy Island (1977) (TV) .... Francesca Hamilton
Houston, We've Got a Problem (1974) (TV) .... Angie Cordell
The Daughters of Joshua Cabe (1972) (TV) .... Ada
The Manhunter (1972) (TV) .... Mara Bocock
Ad est di Marsa Matruh (1971)
The Dunwich Horror (1970) .... Nancy Wagner
Rosie! (1967) .... Daphne
Doctor, You've Got to Be Kidding (1967) .... Heather Halloran
A Man Could Get Killed (1966) .... Amy Franklin
... aka Welcome, Mr. Beddoes (UK)
That Funny Feeling (1965) .... Joan Howell
I'd Rather Be Rich (1964) .... Cynthia Dulaine
Take Her, She's Mine (1963) .... Mollie Michaelson
Tammy and the Doctor (1963) .... Tammy Tyree
If a Man Answers (1962) .... Chantal Stacy
Come September (1961) .... Sandy Stevens
Tammy Tell Me True (1961) .... Tammy Tyree
Romanoff and Juliet (1961) .... Juliet Moulsworth
... aka Dig That Juliet
Portrait in Black (1960) .... Cathy Cabot
A Summer Place (1959) .... Molly Jorgenson
The Wild and the Innocent (1959) .... Rosalie Stocker
Imitation of Life (1959) .... Susie, age 16
Gidget (1959) .... Gidget (Frances Lawrence)
A Stranger in My Arms (1959) .... Pat Beasley
... aka And Ride a Tiger (USA)
The Restless Years (1958) .... Melinda Grant
... aka The Wonderful Years (UK)
The Reluctant Debutante (1958) .... Jane Broadbent
Snezhnaya koroleva (1957) (voice) .... Gerda in English
... aka Снежная королева (Soviet Union: Russian title)
... aka The Snow Queen (USA)
Until They Sail (1957) .... Evelyn Leslie

Filmography as: Actress, Herself, Notable TV Guest Appearances

Herself - filmography
(2000s) (1990s) (1960s)

A&E Biography: Sandra Dee - Sophisticated Baby (2000) (TV) .... Herself

"Unseen Hollywood" (1998) TV Series .... Herself/Host

The 36th Annual Academy Awards (1964) (TV) .... Herself
The 33rd Annual Academy Awards (1961) (TV) .... Herself - Co-presenter: Music Awards

**DISCODISK** · February 22nd, 2005, 04:00 PM

errm :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
o.k youve shamed and humiliated me

no bells ringin' except fantasy island :lol:
any d.v.d recommendations???

**markydefad** · February 22nd, 2005, 09:00 PM

Sandra Dee was "perky" ; a teenage Doris Day, back when that was considered the Ideal. :roll:

I'd recommend "Imitation Of Life"---probably the best of her movies. "A Summer Place" is not bad either.

She is rather gushy--but I always thought she was really cute. :oops:

**StevenHW** · February 23rd, 2005, 11:18 AM

In the movie musical "Grease", there was a song titled "Look At Me, I'm Sandra Dee". :D

**Rab** · February 23rd, 2005, 01:23 PM

Maybe she can be reincarnated back to Steely Dan?

**DISCODISK** · February 23rd, 2005, 06:32 PM

Originally Written by markydefad

Sandra Dee was "perky" ; a teenage Doris Day, back when that was considered the Ideal. :roll:

:o you sayin theres no vallium,gin and bar brawling in her movies :o :lol:
o.k ill try Imitation Of Life but now i know the girls in the d.v.d shop are gonna giggle when i ask :lol:

**markydefad** · February 24th, 2005, 03:54 PM

"Imitation Of Life" is a big ole soap opera about a white woman (Lana Turner) and her loyal maid, a black woman (Juanita Moore) and their troubles with their daughters (Sandra Dee & Susan Kohner).

I think Dee falls in love with mama's boyfriend (John Gavin); Kohner tries to "pass" for white; melodrama ensues.

Both Moore & Kohner were nominated for Supporting Actress Oscars. They didn't win.

Film was directed by auteur Douglas Sirk ("Written On the Wind," "Magnificent Obsession")...and is a big fave of the GAYS. (for the drama, the camp & the clothes!!!) :P

**DISCODISK** · February 24th, 2005, 05:42 PM

sounds good years ago when they used to show all this old stuff on t.v i used to watch it all,im sure when i see it ill rememer seeing it years ago,i was in town today and couldnt see these d.v.ds,then i was in a bookstore and saw one of those gigantic film books like a whos who in films so i picked ot up looked in the index under dee and NOTHING!! so ill have to keep looking :-?
going off topic i was in england a couple of weeks ago and noticed something,the growing space music stores are giving to music and film d.vd's. virgin in liverpool the whole of the downstairs is now d.v.d and you have to climb the stairs for c.ds :-? i suppose its due to music downloads good or bad the selection on d.v.d is incredible,we complain theres not enough disco stuff available but i think its got to be on the way 8) i did find something ive been looking for a d.v.d of janet jacksons including 'when i think of you'[which i have on video and i think is amazing] but it was an import and it was $50 :o ....pass !!

**SandraDee** · February 25th, 2005, 04:43 PM

Originally Written by DISCODISK

but he is quite bona ive met him!

he'll be in morning for a few days then back with a new name 'canal street cruiser' ill guess

I don't know what u mean DD, 'canal street cruiser' indeed! :o You'd never catch me cruising on canal street; these days I do all my cruising behind Piccadilly train station. :lol:

The spirit of Sandra Dee lives on at Discomusic.com! I've always seen myself as a Doris Day type (Doris Gay? :-? )

**SandraDee** · February 25th, 2005, 04:53 PM

Originally Written by markydefad

Film was directed by auteur Douglas Sirk ("Written On the Wind," "Magnificent Obsession")...and is a big fave of the GAYS. (for the drama, the camp & the clothes!!!) :P

That brilliant film from a couple of years ago with Julianne Moore & Dennis Quaid as her closeted gay husband, the title escapes me now, was a tribute to Douglas Sirk if I'm not mistaken? I remember reading that his films were very melodramatic & OTT.

**markydefad** · February 25th, 2005, 05:10 PM

Yeah, that was "Far From Heaven"; .....melodramatic and OOT..usually the leading man is GAY (ROCK HUDSON!!!); the producer of all those Sirk/Universal epics was big ole QUEEN Ross Hunter.

**SandraDee** · February 25th, 2005, 05:30 PM

That's the one! I really enjoyed that film, it reminded of so many 50s films with the repressed sexuality & 'fraught' atmosphere. I expected Montgomery Clift to walk on at any minute! :lol:

**markydefad** · February 25th, 2005, 05:48 PM

The "inside" joke was to have the Husband realize he was "Gay" cause the Husband in most of those Fifties films was often played by GAY actors (Rock, George Nader, Jeff Chandler (Esther Williams said he was a drag queen!!!), Tab Hunter) pretending to be "Straight"

**SandraDee** · February 25th, 2005, 05:58 PM

I assume that's Esther Williams the actress/swimmer & not the disco singer!

I love Hollywood tittle tattle; i remember Ann Miller being interviewed on TV not long ago saying she was surprised when she first saw Marilyn Munroe in a movie as she knew her as a prostitute! (not the first hooker turned movie star I s'pose!)

**nrgbeat** · February 25th, 2005, 06:23 PM

Was Jeff Chandler really gay? I read he had two daughters.

Bi perhaps :roll: :roll: :roll:

Actually I think everyone's a little gay even if they don't care to admit it.

**markydefad** · February 25th, 2005, 06:32 PM

I never thought Jeff Chandler was GAY...but Esther Williams, the swimmer, said he was at least. a cross-dresser. She did a movie with him "Raw Wind In Eden" and they had an affair. She said in her autobiography, that it was over when she came home one night and found him in total female drag!!! :lol:

Now he was a real butch guy...so that musta been some sight!!! :roll:

**markydefad** · February 25th, 2005, 06:37 PM

I googled it:

"Williams' acid-induced vision produces the two other key events that turn up in this autobiography. The first we might call "The unveiling of the animus." She's in love with Jeff Chandler, the handsome leading man from the '50s. They are thinking about getting married. They're in his house. She's cooking supper. She goes upstairs to find, "Jeff was standing in the middle of the bedroom in a red wig, a flowered chiffon dress, expensive high-heeled shoes, and lots of makeup."

She screamed. And screamed. And screamed. "'Take that off! Take that all off now!' I yelled and started screaming again."

Most critics have taken this passage as a wonderful joke. What a laugh! Hunky Jeff Chandler, dressed in drag. The gossip columnists have had a field day with it. But it's a five-page scream, and it goes beyond normal terror. "I couldn't stop myself ... It's a scream that has no logic. It is sheer, uncontrolled panic. I just stood there in the center of the doorway and screamed. It was the kind of scream that ... has one tone to it. It doesn't go into any bars of music. It's not a movie star scream, but the kind you make when your mind shuts down."

What was it about Jeff Chandler in drag that created such an explosion in Esther Williams? She's no dummy. She has seen lots of strange sights in show biz. There was Johnny Weismuller: "Under the stage (out of the audience's sight) ... he'd whip off his trunks so I could see that he was beautifully equipped, and if he caught me, he'd try to get my suit off."

Or Morton Downey: "I had to listen to Morton Downey as I walked out onstage for each entrance ... in sotto voce, heard only by me, Morton spewed four-letter words, regaling me with graphic descriptions of what he would like to do on and to my body."

She's been hustled by countless stars and producers: Victor Mature, Billy Rose, Desi Arnaz. She's acted with dozens of boys: Mickey Rooney with his temper tantrums; Gene Kelly: small, petty and mercilessly cruel to her; Red Skelton crying because, in one sequence, he's going to have to shave his chest hair. What's different about this new vision is that she's fresh from her LSD experience, an extraordinarily powerful one. On acid, she saw herself in the mirror not only as a woman, but as a strong young man, whose "clumsy hand" touched her breast, as she "felt my penis stirring."

When Williams saw Jeff Chandler dolled up (high heels! chiffon dress!) she was, again, looking in the mirror, as she had on LSD -- but this time she saw something different. She saw before her Esther Williams -- a man in woman's clothing. And the vision scared the bejesus out of her.

Shortly after, she found a way to deal with it, for within months, she took up with actor Fernando Lamas. It was a marriage that was to last for 22 years. Like almost all of the men she was associated with, Fernando was a boy. But he had something different going for him. He was the kind of boy they call macho.

They made an agreement. They would have a perfect MGM married life. She knew those well, because she had acted them out in dozens of movies, with names like "Thrill of a Romance," "Neptune's Daughter," "Easy to Wed" and "Fiesta." The script was simple. There would be a beautiful husband, a beautiful housewife, a big house. Lamas wouldn't play around. He would be faithful. She'd play her part of a married woman. No children (she had children, but he didn't want them in the house; she complied.) She wouldn't make any movies, either. Fernando didn't like competition -- from within, or from without.

**SandraDee** · February 25th, 2005, 06:39 PM

They do say that the majority of cross-dressing men are hetero! BTW, talking of outing actors, it isn't often I'm surprised when an actor is revealed as gay or bi but when I heard that Burt Lancaster hosted all-male 'pyjama parties/orgies' you could've knocked me down with a feather! :o I had him down as 100% hetero!

**SandraDee** · February 25th, 2005, 06:46 PM

Originally Written by markydefad

been hustled by countless stars and producers: Victor Mature, Billy Rose, Desi Arnaz.

Weren't Victor Manure & Desi Arnaz both bi?

**DoctorDisco** · February 27th, 2005, 06:52 AM

Originally Written by SandraDee

They do say that the majority of cross-dressing men are hetero! BTW, talking of outing actors, it isn't often I'm surprised when an actor is revealed as gay or bi but when I heard that Burt Lancaster hosted all-male 'pyjama parties/orgies' you could've knocked me down with a feather! :o I had him down as 100% hetero!

Oh girl, tell me it's not so!

**markydefad** · March 1st, 2005, 03:10 PM

Tha Academy of MPA&S dissed Sandy bigtime, by NOT including her in their annual "death watch" last Sunday night. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Now someone in my office said it for for the last calendar year--but Ossie Davis was in there!!!! And he died since January 1.

Also no Ruth Warrick---hey , she was in f-in' Citizen Kane!!!!! fer christ sakes!!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: