Disco songs which did or didn't need to be remixed

[The Lord of Flatbush]

This should provide interesting feedback folks:

Disco songs that did or didn't need to be remixed.

Let's list some examples with your opinions as well.

For example:

Right in the Socket - Shalimar
The 12" version provided more bottom in its sound, but the quality was muffled. Also, the pretty intro from the LP version was left out from the 12" version. This is alike most Solar Records 12" singles such as Keep on Smilin' - Carrie Lucas.

Y.M.C.A./Macho Man - Village People
The same concept as above applied with the 12" mix, but left itself empty with the cleanliness from the LP version.


On the other hand, Come on and Do it - Poussez
12" remix supplied more, erotic elements along
with pulsing, driven sound in comparison to the LP version; To which this version provided
its mix into "Boogie with Me" that wasn't bad either.
Honorable mention: The 12" remix by Francois K of "Your Love Is A Lifesaver" - Gayle Adams

Most versions from Prelude Records in LP form were much cleaner than the 12" remixes.

There are so many records cluttered in my mind, to which I don't want take away from your priceless feedback.

Now, it's your turn!

[NickNack]

It Must Be Love - Alton McClain & Destiny
As nice as it is, when they took the time to put it on 12" I was hoping they would add to it. Of course, the 12" has better response but this could have been a GREAT track rather than just VERY GOOD.

Dance Little Dreamer - Bionic Boogie
The 'extensions' that were released by the DJ Remix Services didn't really do anything with this song except border it on monotonous. Again, like with Alton, I think Polydor let this slip through their fingers.

The Whole Town's Talking - Billy Paul
I consider this another "Philly Classic" that gets overlooked. The song was a staple at The Gallery in NYC. Running 4:46 on the lp, the song is good but bass response is light. A 12" would have helped this a lot ---full Philly sound, Billy's powerful vocals and perhaps a break or two.

Look Me Up - Blue Magic
The remix done in the mid 80's annoyed me. Here someone took the time to create a 'mixable' intro, correct the measures in the break (from 10 to 12) but decided to 'fade' the exit. What was wrong with the 'cold' end? Always better to have choices.

MORE LATER - BELMONT STAKES IS COMING ON!

[The Lord of Flatbush]

On 2002-06-08 16:01, NickNack wrote:
It Must Be Love - Alton McClain & Destiny
As nice as it is, when they took the time to put it on 12" I was hoping they would add to it. Of course, the 12" has better response but this could have been a GREAT track rather than just VERY GOOD.

Dance Little Dreamer - Bionic Boogie
The 'extensions' that were released by the DJ Remix Services didn't really do anything with this song except border it on monotonous. Again, like with Alton, I think Polydor let this slip through their fingers.

The Whole Town's Talking - Billy Paul
I consider this another "Philly Classic" that gets overlooked. The song was a staple at The Gallery in NYC. Running 4:46 on the lp, the song is good but bass response is light. A 12" would have helped this a lot ---full Philly sound, Billy's powerful vocals and perhaps a break or two.

Look Me Up - Blue Magic
The remix done in the mid 80's annoyed me. Here someone took the time to create a 'mixable' intro, correct the measures in the break (from 10 to 12) but decided to 'fade' the exit. What was wrong with the 'cold' end? Always better to have choices.

MORE LATER - BELMONT STAKES IS COMING ON!

Dance Little Dreamer - Bionic Boogie was a beautiful song on the self titled LP, but unfortunately the proper remix would've been the ultimate highlight. I agree with you totally.

[Jimmy-Michaels]

Ok, before i go into this, remember, i was alive but too young in the disco era so, i might not know that some of the ones i say needed one might have one, and if so, pleeeese let me know.

Ones that needed one:
Trocadero Lemon Blue - Alec R Costandinos: This is a great track that is too short and needs a bit more bass pulse, and most of all, no breaks to mix out of.

Chase - Giorgio Moroder: Ok, i know there was a 12 issued for this but its a piece of ****!!! 1 horrable choped loop is what extends it. It sounds like the record skips back to almost the begining of the song, it's that bad. It needed to be remixed with better bass responce and maybe add some extra synth noises or something.

From Here To Eternity - Giorgio Moroder: Now this track i know is verrrrry long as it is on the side long LP suite and has good bass and all. However, the 45 version is totaly remixed and is a medly of the 1st verse of "Eternity" and then little bits of "Utopia". I think this same remix should have been issued on a 12" except, play the entire song of "Eternity" then go into the remixed "Utopia" the same way as on the 45 and play the entire bit of that then let it track on to the reprise of "Eterniy" in this same remixed format as the 45, this would have been a kick ass 12 if it exsisted.

"Out Of My Hands" - Dionne Warwick: This track if anyone knows it speaks for itself why there should have been a 12". Its too damn short at only a little over 3 min and i think it needs to be at least 7 min with some breaks and some extended instrumental sections. Also, a little bass booster as well.

"How Much I Love You" - Alec R Costandinos(Love And Kisses): I think a 12 should have been issued for this with an edit that ran a little over 8 min and needs a huuuuuuuuge bass boost and pulse. I have created the edit i beleve should have exsisted. Includes all the lyrics and some of the instrumental parts. If only i had the master tape to give it that bass pulse it needs sooooo bad.



Ones that should have been left alone or done different:

"Romeo And Juliet" - Alec R Costandinos: Well, im sure you all should agree on this one. Probably one of the most shitty 12" edits i've ever heard in my life, along with a pitch control problem when they "throw in" the intro from side 2 at the end. Also, they killed the bass pulse on it as well. Again, i made an edit of my own for this one using the proper bass responce given on the LP and contains basicly almost all the lyrics from side one and two. The whole LP done in 14 min. So easy to do if you know where to cut. Casablanca must have been either in a rush or hired a moron to do their 12" editing for this one.

"Touch Me Baby" - Ultimate: This one could have been left alone for a 12". Simply it's kinda strange, the LP version sounds like it was the 12" version and the 12" sounds like it should have been the LP version. Totaly ass backwards if you ask me. The only good of the 12" is maybe the instrumental of "Dancin In The Night" included in it.

"Dance Little Lady Dance" - Tina Charles: If they were gonna just loop the damn song and not add any instrumental portions or even some kind of breaks, they shouldn't have done anything and just left it alone at the little over 3 min LP version.

Well, theres some of my oppinions, if i can think of anything else, ill post it here. Gooood topic.

DJ Jimmy M

[The Lord of Flatbush]

Keep on Jumpin' - Musique

The 12" inch remix by Francois K from 1982 (If I'm correct with the year). Just as I mentioned before, if it's not broke, why fix it? The LP version was great, but the remix wasn't necessary.

In contrast, the first version of In the Bush - Musique from the LP was boring, where as the Remix or second version from the LP had lovely instrumentation and breaks {Ahh yeah}.

I Can't Dance Without You - Theo Vaness

The 12" Remix by Francois K was properly done with its overdubs on the drums. The original 12" promo single was flat without the great feel that the remix provided.

Just a few for now, but more are on the horizon.

[The Lord of Flatbush]

Where are all of the audiophilers?

I'm certain through all of the views, many of our forum members know of songs that needed remixes or didn't need remixes.

Let's talk about them!

[DotBomb]

Joe Thomas- Make Your Move
Absolutely excellent track with great production, but the 12" mix is... terrible! It's good for a bit, but it's like somebody took a repeating loop to the thing and did it for 4 minutes after the original 3 minute song was over!

Trampps- Disco Inferno
Oh dear god. Whoever screwed up the 12" mix on this one ought to be shot. I don't want to hear 7 minutes of a repeating droning on beat with a repeating vocal loop. EWWWWW

Clyde Alexander- Gotta Get Your Love
Again, same gripe... a 12" with nothing but a repeating theme. There's virtually nothing you've not already heard after the first 3 minutes!

[markydefad]

On 2002-06-12 14:39, DotBomb wrote:

Trampps- Disco Inferno
Oh dear god. Whoever screwed up the 12" mix on this one ought to be shot. I don't want to hear 7 minutes of a repeating droning on beat with a repeating vocal loop. EWWWWW

Some guy named Tom Moulton "screwed up the 12" mix " of "Disco Inferno". About 7 years before you were born. :roll:

[DotBomb]

Then, my friend... that's his dud in a line of great work

[The Lord of Flatbush]

I think every remixer is entitled to a dud in one's opinion.

Personally, I didn't have a problem with Disco Inferno extended to ten minutes plus. That was the form for a disco 45 12" and extended LP version in those days. Nowadays, songs with disco parts that's highlighted are being looped over and over.

It has been a minute since the Saturday Night Fever Soundtrack, but guess what?

I'll take A Tom Moulton Mix along with a grain of salt.

[The Lord of Flatbush]

As of this posting, 110 views yet 9 replies on this subject.

I'm certain upon searching through our record collections on CD, Vinyl, and MP3, there are remixes of songs that should've been remixed or didn't need to be remixed at all.

In light of the Remix LP's that were and soon to be released, let's talk about those contributions to the industry.

This topic started out to be hot, but cooled out somewhat.

[NickNack]

I want to add one more to the list: "Erucu", from the Mahogany soundtrack. Only 3-minutes +, this could have been worked into something just awesome. I would have loved a 'breakdown', giving each musician a taste.

[Mixmachine]

Nick
I have bootleg remix of "Erucu" on a "Sunshine" acetate,it has a few overlays like "sweet Summer suite" intro, the Larry Page's tune with the heavy drums intro(?), "funk train" whistle,and others I can't remember. Not great but it was fun at the time.

[NickNack]

On 2002-06-22 00:18, Mixmachine wrote:
Nick
I have bootleg remix of "Erucu" on a "Sunshine" acetate,it has a few overlays like "sweet Summer suite" intro, the Larry Page's tune with the heavy drums intro(?), "funk train" whistle,and others I can't remember. Not great but it was fun at the time.

I used to get Sunshine acetates up in NYC, too. Are we talking the same place? (I see you're in Miami.) I used to have a killer version of Teddy Pendergrass' "The More I Get, The More I Want." Then, I let a fellow dj 'borrow' it. You know what happened. Sunshine also gave us Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive" with the "At Midnight" overlay. Nice, but it got 'old' pretty quick.

[Mixmachine]

Yes, We are talking about the same place,I went there during my club hopping visit to NYC in the summer of '77 (or '78?), I pickup a few 10" "Sunshine" acetates I still have around here, including the famous original 'Hollywood', don't ask me how I found this place, I was along and lost in the subways for a few hours, I also visit the famous "Downstairs" shop where I found a few goodies too.

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[NickNack]

On 2002-06-22 20:53, Mixmachine wrote:
Yes, We are talking about the same place,I went there during my club hopping visit to NYC in the summer of '77 (or '78?), I pickup a few 10" "Sunshine" acetates I still have around here, including the famous original 'Hollywood', don't ask me how I found this place, I was along and lost in the subways for a few hours, I also visit the famous "Downstairs" shop where I found a few goodies too.

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You were lucky to find it by accident. If someone hadn't taken me there I never would have found it, and I'm from NYC. I still have a few acetates left myself. My better-half did a special remix on Rod Stewart's "Passion" which Sunshine pressed for us. Triple-echo using turntables and reel-to-reel. A lot of work but worth it.