Love machine or Je suis music ?

[DJ-Pir]

Hi folks,

I was playing some old vinyls and it struck me for the first time
that Cerrones "Je suis music" really resembles the well known
"Love machine" by Supermax.

According to the labels thes are from 79 and 77 respectively,
so i am a little puzzled wether Cerrone did some creative
rippinoff or not.

Could anyone enlighten me ? :roll:


The best things in life are free, Peter

[Bernie]

Damn, I have had both these records for years and never took notice of that. Will play them later today and see.

[Videoskooter]

Mmmh, Kurt Hauenstein developed the Supermax-sound in 77 and indeed Cerrone's "Je suis music" is from a later date. There are a few similarities between the two blueprints, certainly in the baseline but Cerrone's song is different as a whole.

But, you can reverse the question: "Love in C minor" has a similar baseline too and it's from 76, perhaps ze Germans copied ze French??? Non?????? And to complete, "Je suis music" is also based on Cerrone's first one, so....

[Jimmy-Michaels]

Cerrone was a major rip off artist in more ways than one in the early days..somewhere in this forum from a few years ago is the whole story I posted reguarding how Cerrone none the less had a major private war with Alec R Costandinos & Leroy Gomez for different things.

[Videoskooter]

Jimmy, is that topic still available?

I know he switched Costandinos for Raymond Wisniak after "Cerrone's Paradise" but still continued working with Raymond Donnez (Don Ray) who also contributed to the Santa Esmeralda-classics.

BTW Wisniak rejoined him on "Hysteria" and was a major contributor to Bob Sinclar's 3rd album. Listen to "Kiss my eyes" and you'll hear his touch all over it.

[Jimmy-Michaels]

I dunno if it is or not...when the forum switched it may have deleted all old posts from a few years back...anyone know?

[K-Bee]

Try listing all your all posts Jim. Most of them should still be available to read.
It would be a good thing to get this whole Costandinos/Cerrone fight up again as i'm sure many of the newer board members are not aware of that dispute going on.

[Jimmy-Michaels]

And how do I do this? :lol:

[Bernie]

Click on your post # count directly under your name on the left.

[Jimmy-Michaels]

Thanks Bernie :D

I didnt find the Costandinos story but..I found the Santa Esmeralda story..i'll have a look later and see if I can find the Costandinos one but this is an almost as good example of Cerrone's rip off wars LOL


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[Videoskooter]

Thx Jimmy, and I thought it was one big happy family that was sharing ideas and contributions :D But I don't understand it compeletely. The credits on "Love in C..." were Cerrone/Costandinos. Does it mean Sir Alec wrote the complete record and was only assisted by Cerrone?

I always played Santa Esmeralda BTW and not the Revelaçion version.

And what about Cerrone's initial group, Kongas? Where did they get their ideas?

[Jimmy-Michaels]

Yes actualy Costandinos wrote and produced the entire C Minor record (minus Black Is Black of corse). The whole Costandinos/Cerrone battle is another story and much more longer in its own. I'll see if that post is around somewhere on here..I hope it is.

As for Kongas..that was the pre-disco days originaly and Costandinos was actualy a small part of the group in the behind the scenes portion of it..no rip offs goin on there. The later Kongas stuff (Africanism) was purely Cerrone/Don Ray stuff.