'Nowhere' by Hokis Pokis a Danny K re-edit on 12"

[Mixmachine]

Has anyone checked out this re-edit by Danny Krivit, I love this cut but didn't know until today that anyone reworked this old club classic, AFAIK it is only available on 12" as a re-issue so I wonder if someone here heard this new edit and has any reviews?

[Pete B]

No, but I'd be intersted in hearing this also. What label is it on?I have an original 4 track promo 12" of this with 3 other songs. Though stupidly it has all 4 songs on one side, rather than 2 on each.

[Mixmachine]

I didn't know this cut was ever released on 12", how long is that version? my 7" vocal version is 3:32 and recently found a '77 Italian instrumental 12" which is only 3:25, very faithful to Hokis' version....

Danny K 12" does not list the time, and the clip doesn't reveal anything different, here's a link.....

http://beta.juno.co.uk/products/161706-01.htm

and this are the other copies I know off....

http://bellsouthpwp.net/m/i/mixmach/...ratosferic.jpg
http://bellsouthpwp.net/m/i/mixmach/...HokisPokis.jpg

[MYNICKNAMEISGOOGOO]

OK, folks...Let's see if someone can help me here. I once had two 45rpm/7inch copies of NOWHERE by Hokis Pokis...but these copies were very unique in the sense that one side had the Nowhere VOCAL and the other side was NOWHERE INSTRUMENTAL
(YES ABSOLUTELY NO WORDS) and I'm trying to find a copy. Does anyone out there have it? And still in hopeful good/excellent condition ? Please let me know...Thanks...:icon_biggrin:

[DonaldCleveland]

OK, folks...Let's see if someone can help me here. I once had two 45rpm/7inch copies of NOWHERE by Hokis Pokis...but these copies were very unique in the sense that one side had the Nowhere VOCAL and the other side was NOWHERE INSTRUMENTAL
(YES ABSOLUTELY NO WORDS) and I'm trying to find a copy. Does anyone out there have it? And still in hopeful good/excellent condition ? Please let me know...Thanks...:icon_biggrin:

I have one in near mint condition. Contact me thru this website via Private Mail.

DC

[thommy2458]

I have the Danny K 12"-it's perfect.Track it down if you can..

Thom

[DJRAZ]

I love this track. But my single didn't do so well over time. It sounds like crud! Especially when it starts..Click Pop Shhhhhh....

[Disco Funk]

I didn't know there was a vocal/instrumental release. Was it on RCA or Shield?

Disco Funk

[DonaldCleveland]

I didn't know there was a vocal/instrumental release. Was it on RCA or Shield?

Disco Funk

I can't tell you- as when I laid EYES on my copy (not looked at it in decades), I saw that it was the plain old Black Magic records version.
So I already reached out to Mynameisgoogoo and told him.

I am currently in a disco-witness relocation program.

Actually.......I've never seen it on RCA.....:icon_question:

DC

[Mixmachine]

Hey, What a coincidence! I was also part of that same Disco-witness protection//relocation program..LOL

OK, folks...Let's see if someone can help me here. I once had two 45rpm/7inch copies of NOWHERE by Hokis Pokis...but these copies were very unique in the sense that one side had the Nowhere VOCAL and the other side was NOWHERE INSTRUMENTAL
(YES ABSOLUTELY NO WORDS) and I'm trying to find a copy. Does anyone out there have it? And still in hopeful good/excellent condition ? Please let me know...Thanks...:icon_biggrin:

MYNICKNAMEISGOOGOO, I have the original Shield/TK 7” Release but the flip side contains “Can't wait for love” not the instrumental, I never saw or heard of the instrumental version you mentioned, I didn't know this cut was previously released on another label either...


But I don't doubt the 'instrumental' exist, because I did order the Danny K re-edit 12' way back when it first came out and it contains a long instrumental portion at the beginning that I never heard before.


If you track this re-edit you'll be happy, Danny K just reedited 'nowhere' and kept the same original sound, he didn't add any fancy new production.


I know you are looking for the 'original' 7” you owned but I can't help you there. Good luck in your hunt!


PS: The second version I mentioned above by Stratosferic Band ( 6 years+ago ) is great too, and is almost instrumental except for some chants, the sound quality rocks too! ...

[remicks]

Hey, What a coincidence! I was also part of that same Disco-witness protection//relocation program..LOL




MYNICKNAMEISGOOGOO, I have the original Shield/TK 7” Release but the flip side contains “Can't wait for love” not the instrumental, I never saw or heard of the instrumental version you mentioned, I didn't know this cut was previously released on another label either...


But I don't doubt the 'instrumental' exist, because I did order the Danny K re-edit 12' way back when it first came out and it contains a long instrumental portion at the beginning that I never heard before.


If you track this re-edit you'll be happy, Danny K just reedited 'nowhere' and kept the same original sound, he didn't add any fancy new production.


I know you are looking for the 'original' 7” you owned but I can't help you there. Good luck in your hunt!


PS: The second version I mentioned above by Stratosferic Band ( 6 years+ago ) is great too, and is almost instrumental except for some chants, the sound quality rocks too! ...

Mixmachine ...did you play this BITD??

I think it's a great record

and listening to it, I'm struck by the similarity of its Crown Heights Affair type sound that's found on FIND MY WAY by Cameo ....made all the more remarkable by how similar the two songs are in subject matter :

NOWHERE
On my way.. to no where


FIND MY WAY
Find my way,
I must leave you, try to find my way
I can't take it, Love, another day
Please don't stop me, Let me go and find my way

87) *NOWHERE - Hokis Pokis
(Shield/ 1975) P: ?? W: J. Girolamo
Timing: 3:32; BPM: approx 122 bpm
Pop/R&B: n/c; Disc-o-la Fortune 500: #350 out of 500
CD Availability: NONE
A= 3; B= 54; C= 30; D= 7; F= 14; G= 10; Total points = 118 * still on chart
10 weeks (thus far) on the chart (10/4/75 - 12/13/75, 12/27/75)/ No weeks in the Top 10/ Peak: #13

249) * FIND MY WAY - Cameo
(Chocolate City) A= 10; B= 10; C= 1; Total points = 21*still on the chart
4 weeks (thus far) on the chart (12/6 - 12/27/75); Peak: #16

Did you ,mixmachine (or anyone else??), play the two songs together?



and to make the dream set complete
Crown Heights themselves were also hot at the time with :




all three songs running neck to neck at the end of the year 1975 :

THE DISCO COMPILATION CONSENSUS TOP 50

Chart #62: 12/27/75


32) EVERY BEAT OF MY HEART - Crown Heights Affair
(De-Lite 45) (6/ABE) (#15)
33) (R) I'M ON FIRE (Part 2) - Jim Gilstrap
(Roxbury 45) (6/G) (RETURN)
34) * LOVE FOR SALE - Vast Majority
(D&M Records) (6/B) (NEW)
35) (R) NOWHERE - Hokis Pokis
(Shield 45; distrib. by TK) (6/F) (RETURN)
36) (R) PAPAYA - Urszula Dudziak
(Arista 45) (6/C) (RETURN)
37) (R) SHAKE ME, WAKE ME (When It's Over) - Barbra Streisand
(Columbia LP) (6/D) (RETURN)
38) FIND MY WAY - Cameo
(Chocolate City 45) (5/A) (#16)

markydefad

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[Jay Negron]

When "Nowhere" first came out we saw the similarities in "Dreaming A Dream" and also from "Zing With The Strings" (Trammps).

I've been playing a remix version that Hippie Torrales gave me.
I wonder if it's the Krivit edit.

The guitar goes from left to right channels on the elongated looped break. Is this the one???

https://rcpt.yousendit.com/823029629/712a635feff248b4e9a9901809a7e1c9

[remicks]

When "Nowhere" first came out we saw the similarities in "Dreaming A Dream" and also from "Zing With The Strings" (Trammps).

:icon_cool:

oh yes ....let's work in some ZING into this set : :icon_cool:



it's alright baaaaa-bee
early in the morning look it here
in the midnight hour baby
sing about my baby
everyday


from a few months earlier:

215) "THE LEGENDARY ZING ALBUM" - The Trammps
(Buddah) B= 30; Total points = 30
3 weeks on the chart (6/21 - 7/5/75); Peak: #16

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[Mixmachine]

Mixmachine ...did you play this BITD??

I think it's a great record
Did you ,mixmachine (or anyone else??), play the two songs together?

and to make the dream set complete
Crown Heights themselves were also hot at the time with :
all three songs running neck to neck at the end of the year 1975 :
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Hey remicks, I see you're still very active as before:icon_cool:

I did play "Nowhere" , but not at a Disco as a DJ, when this 7" came out I was still or just out of HS.

By this time I did have a rudimentary Dj rig in my bedroom with two different brands of TT , (not much money) and recorded many "DJ" mixed 8 track tapes with every Disco record I could get my hands on (many times even borrowed 7" or LPs copies from friends that received dubs of the mixed 8 tracks tape creations)...

I believe that by the summer of '75 this record was already playing at local Discos and that's where I first heard it ( Don't ask how I got in :icon_mrgreen:) and subsequently tracked it down.

Did I mix it with "Dreaming a dream" ?, Chances are I did, but I certainly can't remember for sure, and all my 8 track tapes were damaged/lost by the time I tried to dub them to cassette in the late 70's. (or was it early 80's?)

But I'm sure that at the time every Dj and 'wannabe' like me did, remember, Disco/Club records were not that plentiful yet, and I spent hours everyday recording and mixing everything that I could get my hands on, and "Dreaming a dream" was a very popular cut, (so was "find my way") and tons of fun for a Dj to play around with...

[Mixmachine]

I've been playing a remix version that Hippie Torrales gave me.
I wonder if it's the Krivit edit.

Jay, I forgot to add this last night..

I compared your downloaded version with Krivit's 12" edit, and they seem to be the same, only Krivit's adds a couple of "measures/bar" (64 beats ) during the intro, everything else seems pretty much the same, (although I didn't check beat by beat) except the 12" ends 'cold', but then your clip may have been cut-off due to length limitations?.

PS: It was fun reading your interview about a year ago on Patrick's site, more so finding out about the "Hollywood" creation/ and author :icon_cool:, still can't believe it was all done on a cassette player! and with the 'pause' button! :icon_smile:

The History of the DJ "Boot/remix" to the modern digital mash ups can all be traced back to the influence of that "Hollywood" mix!

Don't know if it was the first, but it was certainly the better known and most influential.. (don't know what happened to the 'thumbs up" smilie)

[Jay Negron]

It was a real FUN time to be young & spinning!!!!!

So much NEW music coming out at the same time.

It was like Christmas EVERY week!!!

I used mostly reel to reel for my edits at the time but 'Hollywood' was just a lark; we was just fooling around.

Anyway I would not have had the patience to make all those edits on a reel. (35 or more cuts) No freakin way!!!
LOL

[Jay Negron]

I compared your downloaded version with Krivit's 12" edit, and they seem to be the same, only Krivit's adds a couple of "measures/bar" (64 beats ) during the intro, everything else seems pretty much the same, (although I didn't check beat by beat) except the 12" ends 'cold', but then your clip may have been cut-off due to length limitations.

Thanks for the info.
Mine was cut off cause that's what Hippie gave me.
I know someone that's gonna send me the WHOLE thing!!!

Thanks for the info MixMachine!!!!:icon_smile:

[Disco Funk]

PS: It was fun reading your interview about a year ago on Patrick's site, more so finding out about the "Hollywood" creation/ and author :icon_cool:, still can't believe it was all done on a cassette player! and with the 'pause' button! :icon_smile:

I myself liked doing edits and mixes (cutting from one song to the next) using a dual cassette player and a pause button. It worked better with the lower end cassette decks because they didn't have that delay when you pressed buttons. I did stuff like that throughout the 90s until I got a PC, mainly using tracks I taped off the radio because they were always missing chunks of a song (beginning and/or end sections), so I'd end up making my own intros. I can't imagine those guys in the 70s sitting there splicing tape. It's so much easier just hitting pause and un-pause on cassette player! :)

Disco Funk

[remicks]

Hey remicks, I see you're still very active as before:icon_cool:

I did play "Nowhere" , but not at a Disco as a DJ, when this 7" came out I was still or just out of HS.

By this time I did have a rudimentary Dj rig in my bedroom with two different brands of TT , (not much money) and recorded many "DJ" mixed 8 track tapes with every Disco record I could get my hands on (many times even borrowed 7" or LPs copies from friends that received dubs of the mixed 8 tracks tape creations)...

yes Mixmachine , like you I suspect , when it comes to disco .... its in my blood! :icon_cool:
I had no idea when I began re-exploring it ....that there 'd be so much yet to learn!! :icon_mrgreen::icon_cool: and so much music with yet to become familiar .:icon_mrgreen:
Its all good fun.


Anyways, good to see you here again.

Not to stray too far from the thread .....but getting back for a minute to these songs being out at the same time . FIND MY WAY by Cameo was a remake of a smokin' (but brief) Three Degrees song three years prior....




--- and happily someone has it up on youtube: :icon_cool:



FIND MY WAY written by Johnny Melfi , who also wrote the quirky:




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[Mixmachine]

I didn't know The Three Degrees did "Find my way".... thanks for the link.

Here is the instrumental "Nowhere" version (1977)by the "Stratosferic Band..apparently an Italian Band.

Nowhere-StratosfericBand.mp3 - DivShare


Nowhere-StratosfericBand.mp3 - DivShare