Has the site lost it's spark??

[nrgbeat]

Lately, the site doesn't seem as much fun to me. Not sure exactly what it is.

Any other board members feel the same?

[markydefad]

No ****, Sherlock. :lol:

OK, I'll say it. Obviously, certain folks are not posting here anymore. Something to do with the flap over Quinny's "modest proposal" that the GAYS not call attention to themselves, I would guess. :roll:

Ya know, it's most interesting that when you stop posting the folks that always find fault with your posts stop posting also. You'd think they'd relish the opportunity to just "take over." But no, they disappear too. :o

Where are all the right wingers and homophobes now? It's your turn. Amuse, astonish & enlighten us.

[paul]

Well it has been a little dull 'round here lately :(
Has this been in part due to what Quinny said? If so, Marky and the rest of the other gay members, what about people like me who aren't bother by your "gayness." We enjoy the posts regardless of how "gay" it is! :D Look, as y'all well know I throw my breeder points of view in all the time. I do it to the point Bernie gets pissed and perhaps one day tosses me off the site :roll: :lol: This goes double when I start talkin' Salma.
I for one love to read about you men and women who travel on the other side of the tracks.
Ya know, the language here even at it's most heated is generally mild compared to some of the other boards and discussion groups I visit, esp. the political ones.

[markydefad]

Paul, ya know I luvs ya!!!! :D :D :D :D You're a BREEDER with a sense of humor. You get the jokes, you play along. It's just for fun. Some just don't get it.

If this is a HE-MAN DISCO LOVER's site--NO SISSYS ALLOWED, as some would seem to prefer it..... then let the testosterone, sports, pussy-talk and other "guy things" flow. :roll:

BUT, trying to keep the GAYS out of a DISCO site seems like a lost cause. Face it, it's considered "GAY" music by your fellow breeders. Now, I know, you've suffered untold indignities at the hands of your straight friends because you love this music--hence, your "sensitivites" may be a tad raw & vulnerable.

I can't speak for the "others", but I think a little "controversy" keeps it interesting. But, it's always STIFELED IMMEDIATELY lately. Of late, I have little to respond to. :roll:

I'm waiting for someone to post something interesting. I'm waiting........................................... .......

[Videoskooter]

Lately, the site doesn't seem as much fun to me. Not sure exactly what it is.

Any other board members feel the same?

Do you mean the atmosphere or the content of the topics?

I'm fairly new here so I can't judge on it. But for me the site is sometimes good amusement, sometimes very educative and sometimes I get a little angry about some posts. Especially the gay-straight division which is not relevant to me. I'm talking to people here not to gays or straights. But I can understand that some members get offended when certain remarks are made (both sides) and I hope that those things don't get out of hand.

So, enjoy and keep groovin'!

[Bernie]

I can't speak for the "others", but I think a little "controversy" keeps it interesting. But, it's always STIFELED IMMEDIATELY lately.

Marky, you know I enjoy your points of view/humor... and I do agree with your first point, but not the second. My only reason for putting a stop on the last round of bashing was because of just that. It wasn't the subject matter it was just the way it degenerated into some nasty name-calling and back-and-forth nonesense. I thought Barry's British remarks and Disco-Tex write up were clever and hilarious and even publicly said so, but the whole thing was just getting out of control and my locking the topics was more of a time-out and was never meant to single out any one party or group.

There are times where I am torn between just letting you guys fight it out and hope for it to burn out on its own or locking topics... Perhaps locking topics... is the wrong thing? I just don't want the site tunring into a war zone and people getting upset. Please don't think for one minute that I'm stifling anyone's ability to have a good time here. I love to watch fireworks too ya know :-) It all has to be kept within reason and everyone has to know when to lay-off things that are spinning out of control or getting nasty.

[Nano]

I subscribe Paul's post. In fact, I was kinda expecting a "Hunks, hunks, hunks" thread in response to my "Girls, girls, girls" :)
It's true that other forums are far more explicit and aggressive. That's the main reason why they're less appealing to me. The main appeal of a forum like this one is to exchange information. I don't like pissing contests.
However, I found two problems in the time I've been in this forum:

1) Sometimes I feel that certain people doesn't respect the "democracy" in this board. They get to the point of making discriminating comments or even insult other members. Then they are told to shut up; but what it's done is done and those comments are still in the threads for everyone to see.
I've been "victim" of these attacks several times and I am yet to insult anyone in this board. My guess is that this problem is unsolvable, and the only thing one can do in that case is to "hit first". Still, I can't cope with this kind of behavior. See, people in Argentina sometimes follows the rules

2) This will sound like against point #1, but I think that lately the forum has grown restrictive for its members. Surely Bernie has reasons to do this, and maybe he did it against his will (or maybe not; it's not my business anyway), but certainly we all know there are things we can't do or talk about anymore. The feel I get from this is one of increasing frustration.

These problems are related to the forum (still a helpful and entertaining resource), and not to the main site, which I find useful and getting better all the time.

[paul]

Hey Marky, Nano and da rest, I luvs ya too...in a manly man kinda way :lol: :lol:
Marky, I do agree that controversy and diversity keeps things spicy and interesting. I guess my only limitation would be if someone threatened someone, esp. if it's criminal.
And now...for pussy talk with Nano. Ok, not quite. Nano, I did believe as you did that the gay men here would have followed up with a Hunks, hunks, hunks thing. I guess they just aren't as passionate as us straight guys.

[Bernie]

2)I think that lately the forum has grown restrictive for its members. Surely Bernie has reasons to do this, and maybe he did it against his will (or maybe not; it's not my business anyway), but certainly we all know there are things we can't do or talk about anymore. The feel I get from this is one of increasing frustration.

No, it hasn't become restrictive. Everything remains the same as it always has been and everyone is able to discuss just about whatever they want. I even reinstated the Non Music forums after overcoming some server issues!

No one here is a prude-I'm not. The fact that so many people: straight, gay, black, white... can interact and be friends is what makes this site so unique and I want to keep it that way. EVERYONE is welcome here.

[nrgbeat]

It isn't just the gay issue that has caused the site to lose it's spark there are other reasons as well.

At one time you could listen to sound clips, mixes, you could PM other members. Now all of that is gone.

I understand the reason why they were taken away, but they made the site more enjoyable.

[Nano]

Thanks nrgbeat, you're speaking my thoughts here, and you do it with far less words than I...

Bernie, please don't take it personally. I appreciate your thoughts and sincerity on your first post (I didn't read it until later; I was making my own post at the same time).

The thing is, this mp3 thing is causing a gap between what is represented in the forum (the "legal" music market) and what happens in reality (many people copying CDs or downloading freely). And I guess some members suffer -at least I do- because of this. OK, "suffer" sounds too extreme: let's say when I do a post, I keep consuming more and more time thinking about what I can and can't write, issues it's better not to post about, etc. Hence my frustration (point #2).

On top of this -but you're not to blame really- there is a growing list of "danger" issues that, yes, can be used in a thread but at the risk of getting into useless debate with some angry members. Say, I resigned long ago to do any rap thread here because there's always someone getting into the thread only to say "I hate rap" over and over, hence interrupting the chat between other members that really dig it (point #1).
This is just an example, I really don't want to protest for an incident that happened long ago. But I wouldn't get in a Costandinos thread trying to convince an Alec fan that he's wrong. This is obviously useless; in fact, in doing that I would be offending another member, violating his right to express his feelings and thoughts. Hey, even I dance to Ethel Merman sometimes
The bottom line being, now I restrain from opening some potentially "hot" threads because I know sometimes I'm a bigmouth and don't want to get trapped into those debates. And still I get leashed sometimes!
Many fireworks and some no-nos make Nano a lousy boy. :roll:

[Bernie]

Since we are on a roll so to speak, let's openly air any issues anyone might have and see what we can do.

[originalbigm]

Since we are on a roll so to speak, let's openly air any issues anyone might have and see what we can do.

There is certainly a lot of validity in the issues raised as I have noticed the some of the same. My personal observation is that it seems the actual information side of this site has grown somewhat stale. It could be that the subject lines have all been covered off at one time or another.However I see nothing wrong with ressurecting old threads as it gives new insight to the newer members and gains some fresh input or questions from them at the same time.

As far as the rap thing goes personally while I'm not a big fan of it,it did at one time play a part of the disco scene.So maybe Bernie can devote a forum to Rap & Hip Hop for those who wish to discuss and argue it's merits.

Bring back the gayness to the forum .I'm a full blooded testosterone laden hetero but have never felt intimiidated or threatened by our gay friends.Marky is right disco with out gayness is like cereal without milk a little too hard and crunchy.If there are homophobes amongst the members then they should move on or at the least keep their mouths shut.I thought by now we would have moved beyond this.

Finally I think some of us need to step back and take a deep breath and realize that everyone here has different tastes and perspective when it comes to our love of disco. There is nothing wrong with healthy debate but let's not let these debates develop into my opinion is better than yours discussions or I know more than you na!na!na!na!na!. Mine is bigger than yours.Know-it-alls and braggarts piss me off to no end.:x

Bernie created this site as a focal point to discuss and exchange ideas and information about a wonderful era in the history of modern music . Let's not lose sight of ithis!

[Videoskooter]

Bernie created this site as a focal point to discuss and exchange ideas and information about a wonderful era in the history of modern music . Let's not lose sight of ithis!

That's the whole point of it. The forum was originally invented by the Romans to talk with eachother and exchange ideas and views. That concept is still the same nowadays. The one thing that connects us all here is our love for Music, especially Disco and Dance. We all have our favourites, we all have our memories. Since it's a worldwide forum, the whole human race is represented here.

We can all open topics and give our opinions and when things go wrong, Bernie (or like Nicky did) can adjust, close or delete that topic. And indeed, sometimes certain things are said and people are hurt but that's life!

My point : freedom of speech is an absolute human right.

Share your thoughts, give your opinion but allways try to respect the others. And I personally think that when everybody keeps in mind those 3 things, the forum will stay fun for all of us here!

Johan, live from Belgium :D

[Joisey]

...with all due respect, some of you people pushing your Gay agenda on others. People, leave it for the bedroom. There are other people that were into Disco, not just Gays.
OK, so you put a post on a Gay issue --- that's ok, but the Gay innuendo here is written all over the board. Don't get me wrong, I don't have any issues with gays other than seeing them in "parades" dressed as Drag Queens; now, that's pathetic. Let's talk about such things as shitting on the Koran or carpet bombing Islamic cities. You Gays think the Republicans are your enemies --- haha; do you know what they would do you if you were in Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Sudan, or any of those inferior filthy Moslem societies? Besides, I know plenty of gays who are Republicans.

[Joisey]

In reply to Videoskooter.
I remember a while back I was booted from this "Forum" by the "freedom loving, open minded" Liberals because they didn't agree with what I was saying (posting). At the time, this place was crawling with Commies, radical Socialists, and all type of mentally defficient Marxists. I used to go by the name Fantomas.

[markydefad]

Graham_Start
Platinum Member

Fantomas? Is that you?
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Good call Graham. :D :D :D

[nrgbeat]

Hmmm, what's next will the dead dyke be resurrected???

[DISCODISK]

Since we are on a roll so to speak, let's openly air any issues anyone might have and see what we can do.

o.k BERNIE fasten your seatbelt its gonna be a bumpy evening
for me its the private message thing the way that was done was just too harsh, it would have taken less words to say f*** you,and besides that i dont feel the reason was the space thing,i recieved a p.m a day before inviting me to join a u.k site something like 'we need people like you there' maybee others got that too? anyway i think members deserved someting better than that, im not really including myself here im talking about others who do more work typing submitting label scans etc. just way too harsh not even a warning :evil:
maybee were all guilty of not thinking of good topics to post,to be truthfull i dont want to come home from work and discuss boogie oogie oogie whats the point?
the gay bashers dont really bother me cos you never gonna change their minds but i do object to comments from members who tell others tone it down if you want to be accepted ill defend anyone who is in a minority and is spoken to like that,my run ins with quinny are legendary, im sure sometimes other members must think im a psycho sometimes :o but ive never had a cross word with any other member in 3 years. ive never actually stated on here if im gay straight or tri-sexual nobody really knows and why should they need to, i come here for the music :P

[born2disco]

Yeah, what's with the private messaging thing, they really don't take up that much space! :evil: And I think the fact that they were taken away with a 'no further discussion' attutide was really fucked.

[buckaroo]

Now listen up everyone. I'm as straight as the next man. And even the man I'm next to. This who's gay-er than who stuff simply must stop here and now. I don't say this because I'm a repressed British-Stiff-Upper-Lipped individual...Oh no!! And, for that matter, neither do I say it because I secretly ogle my musclebound neighbour while he's gardening in his vest on a hot summery day...Ooooh...

I'm fed up of all this...So I'm going to champion all that is Macho: Peter Allen. Liberace. Elton John. George Michael. And Alexis Arquette. All fine examples of 100% meaty manhood.

Here's to tett...tist...testosterone.




Long live Rue Paul.

[QUINNY]

Paul, ya know I luvs ya!!!! :D :D :D :D You're a BREEDER with a sense of humor. You get the jokes, you play along. It's just for fun. Some just don't get it.

If this is a HE-MAN DISCO LOVER's site--NO SISSYS ALLOWED, as some would seem to prefer it..... then let the testosterone, sports, pussy-talk and other "guy things" flow. :roll:

BUT, trying to keep the GAYS out of a DISCO site seems like a lost cause. Face it, it's considered "GAY" music by your fellow breeders. Now, I know, you've suffered untold indignities at the hands of your straight friends because you love this music--hence, your "sensitivites" may be a tad raw & vulnerable.

I can't speak for the "others", but I think a little "controversy" keeps it interesting. But, it's always STIFELED IMMEDIATELY lately. Of late, I have little to respond to. :roll:

I'm waiting for someone to post something interesting. I'm waiting........................................... .......

Marky: This may astound you, but..... not everyone shares your sense of humour. Doesn't mean we're humourless and I don't see a sign saying "you must laugh at all jokes". In effect, all you've just said is "I'll tolerate you if you LOVE me". Sorry pal, but that's one way traffic. In fact I've bounced offa yous on many occasions and never had any problems (except you tend to defecate all over me given half a chance).

The fact that certain members don't post anymore sorta proved my point, didn't it?. They made a drama out of nothing really and took umbridge where none was intended. Net result, they threw their toys out of the pram. Very grown up, tolerant behaviour, eh?

If a little controversy keeps it interesting, why did the Gay police come down on me like a ton of turds? Simple answer is because beneath it all, Gays are just as cynical, just as hypocritical, just as tyranical as anyone else, maybe even more so.

BTW: Just in case anyone's in doubt it was Nicky who tended to try to keep things ultra tight and not allow any shenanigans. I like him much more as a poster than a mediator.

This had as much to do with Gay's intolerance towards anyone who might criticise them, as much as that person's supposed phobia of them. The fact that some of them have left in a fit of pique says a lot more than thousands of words. Marky, it was you who asked about 2 years ago whether or not the board was too Gay? I said then that it could be at times, so my position hasn't changed and I assumed you, at least, would welcome a little slap on the wrist, so to speak, if anyone thought the Gayness quotient was becoming a might overbearing.

I have NEVER considered Disco as Gay music per se. You have to realise that the disco world didn't only revolve around you guys.

FYI: Yes I did go away.....to Spain, for 12 days.

Have I called anyone names? Have I got really personally insulting? Have I ever said that I'd prefer this as a HE MAN, NO SISSY site? NO!!! So, please cut the crud.

b :roll: :roll: gie :roll: :roll: gie :roll: :roll: gie everyone.

[born2disco]

Squish. :cry:

[ACE]

Yikes. I have no right to get involved in any of this since I'm new, and haven't posted in awhile. Was in New Orleans.

Ummmm. I wanted to include Liza in the HEIGHT thread, but was afraid to. Seriously.

May I just add though? Being an "old head", and a chick....I worked with all gay men in my Disco days, and partied with them after work. Man, they were the best times of my life. Meanwhile I often clubbed with my straight girlfriends, and we had a good time, but the gay clubs always had better DJ's, and I got better dance partners with the boys.

BTW There were some of the most beautiful boys in New Orleans, and I'm old, but I just had to tell them. Now I'm a Mrs. Robinson. :oops:

[judydoggie]

There is a Forum in this website for something like "anything other than disco." It's something like the lunchroom we have at my facility. That is where employees may choose to discuss things like where they're going to go after work, how things are going with their significant others, where they're going on vacation or for the weekend, who they've fucked last night, whether or not they masturbate, how much they liked the drugs they did last night, etc. etc. HOWEVER, when we work together, we tell jokes (that do not hurt one another, nor our clients), we sometimes throw things at one another, but we never, ever, ever discuss personal matters, including sexuality, politics nor religion with anyone except a manager (usually me) and then only when the employee feels his/her boundaries are being violated.

This website is a vast source of information and a great meeting of minds. It's a case of the value of the whole being far greater than the sum of the parts. Couldn't we consider the "Subjects other than disco" Forum thread the correct area in which to discuss with whom and exactly how we had sex recently, or whom we are lately drooling after, whether celebrity or the boy/girl next door? (E.g., our "lunchroom.")

The rest of this website is an historical record, and an argument among mostly well-informed professionals and onlookers who were present for the era(s) that are herein being examined, as well as an accumulation of new data being recorded and commented on as it evolves.

Wouldn't it be silly if my corporate records reflected "Caught first set on digital; balance good but high frequency of vocals a bit muddy because of that silly Queen Kenneth; too busy adjusting his nylons" or "Noticed during playback that female vocalist had huge knockers -- all the more reason to feature her image on album cover!"

Won't work. Methinks we can have plenty of fun; plenty; with the music. It's kinda like trying to have fun after giving up cocaine. It sure took me a long time.