The Dance Music Hall of Fame 2004 Nominee list!!!

[discosavvy]

I am still of the opinion however that it should be called "Disco" as opposed to "Dance." ... Much of what followed traditional disco for example, Hi Energy, Rap, Hip Hop, House, etc. had their roots in Disco!

I personally don't have a problem with their using the word "Dance" instead of "Disco". Besides, 1970s disco music CAN be called dance music too, even though that's more generic. Obviously the word "dance" was all over disco song titles and lyrics. Some artists, like K.C. and Barry White, never liked the word disco anyway. I like it because it's a straightforward definition as opposed to the more murky "dance", but I can understand their point of view. One point I want to make is that 120 bpm disco evolved out of 3-beats-per-second proto-disco songs of the 1971-1972 period. Those proto-disco songs are the actual foundation of modern dance music, not the 2-beats-per-second real disco that followed. As far as the later inventions like garage, house, electro-funk, rap, and so on, they seem to draw as much influence from disco as funk. "Funky Sensation" by Gwen McCrae seems to derive from disco, funk, and gospel simultaneously. I would call a song like that a dance song without hesitation.

On the other hand, do any house music fans still deny that house music comes primarily from disco?

The word "dance" ensures that people see the continuity of dance music from the 1970s to today. Some people who insist "disco" died in 1979 can't be convinced otherwise no matter how much evidence is sent their way. But they can't deny that most disco music is danceable. Besides, remember the national successor to Disco Step-By-Step was "Dance Fever" beginning in 1979, not "Disco Fever". :)

Establishing a continuity from 1972-today will force the dance music industry to keep disco in their tent... this kind of sense of continuity was lacking in the 1980s when dance music producers were trying to be as UNdisco as possible.

We can't go back in time and reverse Ray Caviano's decision to switch the word from "disco" to "dance".

[paul]

Hey discosavvy 8)

One point I want to make is that 120 bpm disco evolved out of 3-beats-per-second proto-disco songs of the 1971-1972 period. Those proto-disco songs are the actual foundation of modern dance music, not the 2-beats-per-second real disco that followed. As far as the later inventions like garage, house, electro-funk, rap, and so on, they seem to draw as much influence from disco as funk.

Perhaps but we can extend this line of reasoning to cavemen who we were tapping bones against the walls for music. My point here is if we dig hard enough we can find antecedents to all forms of music. I wanted to keep it to modern dance style.

Some people who insist "disco" died in 1979 can't be convinced otherwise no matter how much evidence is sent their way. But they can't deny that most disco music is danceable. Besides, remember the national successor to Disco Step-By-Step was "Dance Fever" beginning in 1979, not "Disco Fever".

You emphasized my point here. Why worry about trying to convince others disco lives or lived on. Instead just say "Disco" Hall Of Fame and you have affirmed that it lives on without any concerns about having to prove anything. Nothin' personal bro...I'm just adamant on this issue![/quote]

[efunk_adelic]

Hey discosavvy 8)

One point I want to make is that 120 bpm disco evolved out of 3-beats-per-second proto-disco songs of the 1971-1972 period. Those proto-disco songs are the actual foundation of modern dance music, not the 2-beats-per-second real disco that followed. As far as the later inventions like garage, house, electro-funk, rap, and so on, they seem to draw as much influence from disco as funk.

Perhaps but we can extend this line of reasoning to cavemen who we were tapping bones against the walls for music. My point here is if we dig hard enough we can find antecedents to all forms of music. I wanted to keep it to modern dance style.

Some people who insist "disco" died in 1979 can't be convinced otherwise no matter how much evidence is sent their way. But they can't deny that most disco music is danceable. Besides, remember the national successor to Disco Step-By-Step was "Dance Fever" beginning in 1979, not "Disco Fever".

You emphasized my point here. Why worry about trying to convince others disco lives or lived on. Instead just say "Disco" Hall Of Fame and you have affirmed that it lives on without any concerns about having to prove anything. Nothin' personal bro...I'm just adamant on this issue!

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I'm not sure where this quote is coming from but I agree 100%. I believe too much time is wasted on whether disco survived or lives on. If it was so dead... then why was a cool website created & we are here talking about how good it is? Disco/Dance is just like any other genre of music... some is good and some is bad.

[Funky Dude]

Hmmm. Choices are hard for me on these nominations, I'll have a crack at it and see what I can choose, hmmm let's see now:

Artist - Donna Summer: Looks like I'm going with what the majority would pick. Anyways my reason is she has released SO MANY disco albums between 1974 and 1979 with so many top disco songs all big thanks to the legendary producer Georgio Moroder.I've pretty much got all her albums from the 1975-79 period. The two songs that really blow me away the most would be the medley "Spring Affair/Summer Fever" :D .

Song - Gloria Gaynor - Honey Bee/Never Can Say Goodbye/Reach Out, I'll Be There: I had a hard choice between "Ten Percent" and the one I selected but chose this fantastic Tom Moulton remix medley as for starters the songs are bloody fantastic :D and the uptempo disco style of the songs was very groundbreaking for 1974 and Tom's mixing of the 3 paved way for what was yet to come at the time "DJ mixing" :D !!!

Producers - Giorgio Moroder & Pete Bellotte: The choices get even harder here as all 3 are bloody good :D !!! Anyways what can I say, Giorgio is a bloody legend :D !!! Chose him because he really helped boosted the Eurodisco style in the artists mentioned (especially Donna Summer) with fantastic harmonic electronic rhythm style of his, and his album "From Here To Eternity" was absolute groundbreaking techno style of electronic rhythm using sequencers which sound way ahead of time for 1977 :D !!! His "From Here To Eternity" medley is sensational :D !!!

Remixers - Tom Moulton: Without a doubt I'm going with the flow on this one. He started the groundbreaking extended mixing of disco music with Gloria Gaynor's "Honey Bee/Never Can Say Goodbye/Reach Out I'll Be There". Tom is a bloody legend :D !!!

DJ's - haven't heard of any them apart from Walter Gibbons so I've got buckley's chance of making a choice here.

Anyways those are my choices.

Lastly I was rather disappointed that the Brass Construction's "Movin'" wasn't in the top 15 song list as it is one of the best dance tracks of the mid 70s, to my opinion it well deserves to be nominated!!!

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[discokid]

Well everyone mentioned is deserving, however, the are many others who should be acknowledged. Also, with everyone mentioned they have at least one other song that really was better. example-Harold Melvin:Don't leave me this way, Gloria Gaynor:Casanova Brown, Donna Summer:Spring Affair, MFSB: Sexy, Just to name a few!

by the way, wasn't it the Hues Corporation that "officially" kicked the Dance/Disco thing off anyway?? Why were they not mentioned?

PS why not have an "Honorable Mention" catagory!!

[DevP]

Thanks again for making us all aware of the DMHOF. Any news on when the inductees are going to be announce? I can't wait for the first ceremony. Do you know if it's going to be televised and, if so, when? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.

DevP

[discosavvy]

Just so you know, DMHOF ballots have not yet been mailed to voters.

[John Parker]

A quick update. The ballots should be going out very soon. We have held them up for a couple of reasons. 1st off because we'd like to put the date of the event on the balllot and we are just about ready to announce the venue.

And another thing that has held us back a bit is that we are in negotiations with various media partners so we had to make sure the timing of the event is right to maximize the exposure the Hall will receive.

I think that once we are able to announce the venue and the things that we are working on, everyone will be very excited by the attention the music and it's long deserving artists will receive.

We have been quiet lately but we are working hard on making this the best event dance music has ever seen. ;)

John Parker

PS - We are looking for a webmaster that can whip up a great site for us. If your interested, e-mail me at: jparker@robbinsent.com

[maarten]

NB: BTW I'm also surprised that EWF does not appear in the list of artists. They definitely deserve it.

Funnily enough, I think EW&F were inducted into the R&RHOF in Cleveland Ohio two or three years ago. I bought a video with the EW&F story on it (in Japan, excellent purchase, although it doesn't reveal what illness Maurice White is suffering from, just that he is ill and is therefore no longer able to perform).

So there... the R&R Hall Of Fame inducts disco... or should I say dance... or funk bands.

See, this whole debate is why I hate labeling anything or anybody to begin with. Just like what you like and dance what you want to dance to :roll:

[bigpoppa206]

If it's a Dance Hall of Fame, Why is there not a single House Artist/Producer/Song/DJ ?

No Frankie knuckles, no Ron Hardy, No Mysteries of Love by mr Fingers, no Farley Jackmaster Funk ?

Simple, because house came AFTER disco and dance. It would seem that the Dance Music's Hall of Fame would benefit by starting at the beginning, which they have rightfully done, and to honor those who truly helped guide and nurture the modern day disco/dance movement. Ron Hardy didn' start in the late 60s, Frankie started in the early 70's and Mr Fingers and Farley Jackmaster Funk were closer to the early 80's.

To me, the one person who truly transformed the DJ/nightclub experience was Francis Grasso. Pretty much everything came after him.