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    Phyllis Hyman - The Diva

    All I can say is this:

    If you love this lady like I do, then pick up the new UK import on the Expansion label, Phyllis Hyman - "In Between The Heartaches ~ The Soul Of A Diva". 16 tracks of pure joy. Some "previously unreleased" material along with previously unreleased versions of songs you already know. The cd quality is excellent and Phyllis will have you laughing, crying and wishing you were there 'in between those heartaches'.

    A gift taken way to soon... :cry:

    Track List:

    1. Love Surrounds Us Everywhere (w/McCoy Tyner) 5:13
    2. *If You Ever Change Your Mind 2:58
    3. *Hottest Love Around 4:30 8)
    4. *Do You Love Him (Fast Version) 3:26
    5. Sleep On It 3:20
    6. Can't Live Without You 3:14
    7. Soon Come Again (Extened Mix) 6:22 8)
    8. *In Between The Heartaches 3:45 8)
    9. In Search Of My Heart (w/McCoy Tyner) 7:06
    10. Sacred Kind of Love (w/Grover Washington) 5:39
    11. Magic Mona 3:27
    12. Don't Tell Me, Tell Her (Previously Unreleased Version) 6:11
    13. Be One 4:34
    14. Everything I Have Is Good (w/Pharoah Sanders & Norman Connors) 6:00
    15. Spring Arrival (w/Jon Lucien)
    16. I'll Be Around (w/McCoy Tyner) 6:12

    [* = Previously Unreleased]

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    Good call, Nicky.

    This will definitely have to be investigated, as my P.H. section has been long neglected and is, er...dusty, shall we say. A little fairy appeared on my shoulder just now and told me I was last seen playing 'Love Surrounds Us Everywhere' and 'Children Of The World' in short-pants and sporting a full head of hair!
    :lol:

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    This is awesome!! can't wait to get my hands on that set. :)

    This is more proof that Expansion is a force to be reckoned with when it comes to delivering real soul music in this world of 50 cents wannabes
    There was life after disco!!

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    I can't wait to get my hands on this one!!!! Is it only available on the web??? I looked at Amoeba last weekend and it was not there. I know it's one of those David Nathan releases, right?

    I've long wanted the gorgeous "In Search Of My Heart" from a McCoy Tyner LP on CD. The boys at Aloha Records turned me on to this one!!! :D

    AND I can't wait to hear Miss Phyllis do the Bacharach/David gem "In Between The Heartaches" (an old Dionne Warwick LP cut...also on the new Ronald Isley/Bacharach collaboration). This is one of those half-forgotten treasures that woulda, coulda, shoulda been a bigger hit. Check out Dionne's CD "Hidden Gems: Greatest Hits, Vol 2" for more wonderful, little-known songs:

    AMG says:

    Turning the spotlight on various rarities, B-sides, and album cuts, Hidden Gems reminds us that some of Dionne Warwick's best work with the prolific Burt Bacharach/Hal David team received little or no radio airplay. In retrospect, it's hard to believe that Warwick's versions of "What the World Needs Now Is Love," "The Look of Love" (also recorded by Isaac Hayes, Anita Baker, and countless others), and "Make It Easy on Yourself" (a smash for Jerry Butler) weren't major hits. They certainly deserved to be, as did the hauntingly pretty "Any Old Time of the Day" ("Walk on By"'s B-side) and "They Long to Be (Close to You)." For those who might have overlooked this fine material, Hidden Gems is quite a revelation. — Alex Henderson

    1. I Smiled Yesterday (Bacharach/David) - 2:44
    2. Wishin' and Hopin' (Bacharach/David) - 2:55
    3. Unlucky[*] (Banks/Shockley) - 2:25
    4. Make It Easy on Yourself (Bacharach/David) - 2:40
    5. I Cry Alone[*] (Bacharach/David) - 2:37
    6. Make the Music Play (Bacharach/David) - 2:25
    7. Any Old Time of Day (Bacharach/David) - 3:08
    8. Close to You (Bacharach/David) - 2:23
    9. In the Land of Make Believe[*] (Bacharach/David) - 3:03
    10. How Many Days of Sadness[*] (Bacharach/David) - 3:26
    11. You Can Have Him (Cook) - 4:01
    12. Here I Am (Bacharach/David) - 2:50
    13. This Little Light[*] (Traditional) - 2:10
    14. What the World Needs Now Is Love (Bacharach/David) - 3:14
    15. Let Me Be Lonely (Bacharach/David) - 3:35
    16. Who Is Gonna Love Me? (Bacharach/David) - 3:11
    17. This Girl's in Love With You (Bacharach/David) - 4:13
    18. Slaves[*] (Kessler/Scott) - 3:09
    19. The Look of Love (Bacharach/David) - 2:46
    20. Let Me Go to Him (Bacharach/David) - 3:25


    Regarding "In Between The Heartaches":

    In Between the Heartaches
    Composed By Bacharach/David
    Performed By Warwick, Dionne
    Length 2:52
    Appears On Look of Love: The Burt Bacharach Collection [1998]
    From the Vaults [1995]
    Here I Am/Here Where There is Love [1996]
    Here I Am [1965]


    AMG REVIEW: Another example of the Bacharach/ David songwriting team attempting to outdo themselves in terms of pop experimentation, this song is another underappreciated classic. Once again, Bacharach walks the musical high wire between dissonance and resolution with the chord and key changes, with what can only be described as perfect results. Hal David's pragmatic lyrics weave in and out of the melody with the usual impressive ease, making the dark content easy to swallow. One of Dionne Warwick's personal favorites, she took it into the Top 40 in late 1965. — Matthew Greenwald
    "Lost inside adorable illusion...."

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    Yeah, marky, I got the CD from the David Nathan site. (Good ole Keefe reminded me :D .) He was taking pre-orders before the release date. Since it's an import (for us :roll: ) I guess the internet is your best bet.

    My Dionne collection (vinyl) is still holding up well and I know I have a reel-to-reel somewhere with nothing but her on it. I recorded it when I was overseas in Okinawa. Used it to keep me mellow. Two of my favorite songs by Bacharach/David/Warwick are "In Between The Heartaches" and "Here I Am". That piano intro on "Here I Am" is so simple yet so beautiful, a Burt Bacharach trademark.

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    The old Dionne song that's running through my mind that I haven't heard for years is "Here Where There Is Love"...my college roommate had this LP back in tha day and I loooooooooved it. :D

    That song doesn't seem to be on any of the
    compilations. :cry:

    Oops,I see it is on one I don't have: "Love Songs" on Rhino. :oops:
    "Lost inside adorable illusion...."

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    Mark, David Nathan's site had the best price. I also saw it on Amazon.com. My cousin looked at a few stores in SF and couldn't find the disc, although I would suspect Jeff's favorite SF record store, Medium Rare, would carry it. Surely some store in LA has this gem!

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    Its a shame that a jazz scat track she did on Norman Connors "Starship" LP wasn't included.. think it was called "Just Imagine"... had the great Onaje Allan Gumbs on kys too..

    I really love that 70s mix of flute, vox scat, Arp Solina, rhodes over latin beats.. I'd love to find more stuff like that...

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    Funny you should mention this... I recently met the guy who compiled this release. He's quite proud that it's getting better reviews than anything BMG has put out :)

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    Graham, the guy has every right to be proud. The liner notes describes all the work they put into looking for and restoring the unreleased tracks. Quite a wonderful collection!

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    I was lucky enough to see Phyllis Hyman perform live at The Hammersmith Odeon in England during 1991. Her voice was so powerful and evocative, I thought that I was at home listening to my albums. It was truly shocking to hear over the radio in '96 that she committed suicide. Like so many Divas of the past, Billie Holliday etc, she had many an inner demon to contend with.

    People like Kylie Minogue, do not deserve to even write the word diva.

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    Phyllis Hyman - The Diva

    Quote Originally Written by keefelc View Post
    Graham, the guy has every right to be proud. The liner notes describes all the work they put into looking for and restoring the unreleased tracks. Quite a wonderful collection!


    February 22nd, 2008

    Hello Everyone!

    I'm Michael aka "FamousMikeyG" in the music business.

    I Produced Phyllis Hyman's IN BETWEEN THE HEARTACHES - THE SOUL OF A DIVA "Compact Disc and Double Vinyl LP Edition", released on Expansion Records (of England).

    I just happen to stumble across this site and thought that I'd like to join in on some of the discussions the members were having regarding Phyllis Hyman and some of the other artists, seeing as I know many of them personally and can shed some light on areas that might not normally get covered.

    I used to DJ when I was younger, but have since gone on to work in other facets of music. Mostly Road Management, Producing and Soul Music Archiving. I've been collecting records since I was a kid!

    I just wanted everyone to know that I appreciate all the support and kind words regarding my project. Any questions I can answer regarding it, please just ask. I've worked with many of the Divas over the years - particularly Phyllis Hyman, Jean Carn(e), Angela Bofill, Miki Howard and Viola Wills. David Nathan is also a friend of mine and some of you have commented on your having purchased the Phyllis CD at his online music shop. I know that he really appreciates the support as well - so a big THANK-YOU on his behalf (from me to you).

    Putting HEARTACHES together was a labour of love for me (as well as labour intensive), as it took just over a year to Produce. I really had to pick my own brain when it came to recalling some of Phyllis' comments on her own material, etc. The project really was a tribute to my longtime friend Miss Phyllis Hyman whom I was on the road with for approx. 13 years (sporadically). I wanted to share some of the rare musical gems she had left behind, as I was privy to them.

    While others clamoured for her clothes and material belongings after her death, it was only I that wanted all of her music (regardless of the format it was left in), while going through her memorabilia and belongings... and THANK GOD FOR THAT - that's why a good chunk of her music is in my hands (to this very day). I hope to release something new on her in the coming year, all things going well.

    By the way, for those who may not know - this Phyllis Hyman project was "in consideration" for two Grammy Nominations for the year 2004 (as I completed it late November of 2003). The Catagories that submissions were made for (by two of the contributing song-writers, who's song that I chose to utilize in the compilation) were: BEST HISTORICAL ALBUM FOR 2004 and BEST LINER NOTES FOR 2004. While we never received the Official Nominations, it was sure sweet knowing that the the Academy and the Buying Public regarding the set as being THAT highly prized. I was floored, needless to say. And if Phyllis were still here - she wouldn't have believed it herself, as she once claimed "I should have won many of those suckers long ago!"

    Graham, the more I look at your photo, the more you look familiar, but I still can't seem to place you even though we've met.

    Cheers and hope to hear from you all.

    FamousMikeyG

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    Re: Phyllis Hyman - The Diva

    Quote Originally Written by FamousMikeyG View Post
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    Hello Everyone!

    I'm Michael aka "FamousMikeyG" in the music business.

    I Produced Phyllis Hyman's IN BETWEEN THE HEARTACHES - THE SOUL OF A DIVA "Compact Disc and Double Vinyl LP Edition", released on Expansion Records (of England).

    I just happen to stumble across this site and thought that I'd like to join in on some of the discussions the members were having regarding Phyllis Hyman and some of the other artists, seeing as I know many of them personally and can shed some light on areas that might not normally get covered.

    I used to DJ when I was younger, but have since gone on to work in other facets of music. Mostly Road Management, Producing and Soul Music Archiving. I've been collecting records since I was a kid!

    I just wanted everyone to know that I appreciate all the support and kind words regarding my project. Any questions I can answer regarding it, please just ask. I've worked with many of the Divas over the years - particularly Phyllis Hyman, Jean Carn(e), Angela Bofill, Miki Howard and Viola Wills. David Nathan is also a friend of mine and some of you have commented on your having purchased the Phyllis CD at his online music shop. I know that he really appreciates the support as well - so a big THANK-YOU on his behalf (from me to you).

    Putting HEARTACHES together was a labour of love for me (as well as labour intensive), as it took just over a year to Produce. I really had to pick my own brain when it came to recalling some of Phyllis' comments on her own material, etc. The project really was a tribute to my longtime friend Miss Phyllis Hyman whom I was on the road with for approx. 13 years (sporadically). I wanted to share some of the rare musical gems she had left behind, as I was privy to them.

    While others clamoured for her clothes and material belongings after her death, it was only I that wanted all of her music (regardless of the format it was left in), while going through her memorabilia and belongings... and THANK GOD FOR THAT - that's why a good chunk of her music is in my hands (to this very day). I hope to release something new on her in the coming year, all things going well.

    By the way, for those who may not know - this Phyllis Hyman project was "in consideration" for two Grammy Nominations for the year 2004 (as I completed it late November of 2003). The Catagories that submissions were made for (by two of the contributing song-writers, who's song that I chose to utilize in the compilation) were: BEST HISTORICAL ALBUM FOR 2004 and BEST LINER NOTES FOR 2004. While we never received the Official Nominations, it was sure sweet knowing that the the Academy and the Buying Public regarding the set as being THAT highly prized. I was floored, needless to say. And if Phyllis were still here - she wouldn't have believed it herself, as she once claimed "I should have won many of those suckers long ago!"

    Graham, the more I look at your photo, the more you look familiar, but I still can't seem to place you even though we've met.

    Cheers and hope to hear from you all.

    FamousMikeyG
    Michael,
    Thanks for producing this Fantastic album..
    I own everything on Vinyl or CD that Phyllis Hyman has avaliable..
    Including the Cd "In Between The Heartaches" .
    I am an Amazon junkie ,plus I always search all over the net for material from any of my favorite artists such as Phyllis..
    I jumped on this at once.
    It is a beautiful compilation,any Phyllis fan would be thrilled to own this..
    She has one of the most distinctive female voices in music history IMO..Like heroin for the ears.
    Marky,You can get this Cd On Amazon.com
    Dayna

    A True Diva Needs No Introduction Her Entrance Speaks For Itself



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    Re: Phyllis Hyman - The Diva

    Quote Originally Written by Dayna View Post
    Marky,You can get this Cd On Amazon.com
    Dayna
    Dayna....this is an old thread from 2003....I did find the cd at Amoeba Records some time after I posted.

    At that time, I didn't know how to do the Amazon thing, but I have subsequently learned. I now go there first.

    Thanks for the tip, however.

    And I just pulled the cd to give it another listen...it's been too long since I've heard
    Phyllis in all her splendor....and to the guy, MikeyG [Michael Grimaldi] who compiled it... Thanks for you superb effort and please post more...we love Phyllis around here.
    "Lost inside adorable illusion...."

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    Quote Originally Written by NickNack View Post
    All I can say is this:

    If you love this lady like I do, then pick up the new UK import on the Expansion label, Phyllis Hyman - "In Between The Heartaches ~ The Soul Of A Diva". 16 tracks of pure joy. Some "previously unreleased" material along with previously unreleased versions of songs you already know. The cd quality is excellent and Phyllis will have you laughing, crying and wishing you were there 'in between those heartaches'.

    A gift taken way to soon... :cry:

    Track List:

    1. Love Surrounds Us Everywhere (w/McCoy Tyner) 5:13
    I remember buying McCoy's album , "Looking Out" , and being swept away immediately by this mastertrack.

    http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p...fxfexqtkldse~T

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    Very Good!

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    Wow, you guys are bringing tears to my eyes. I was sooo in love with that woman. What a lot of cats may not remember is that she was: 6'2, and had an hourglass figure. Even though she used to wear flowing gowns and stuff, Phyllis used to work out regularly, and had a gorgeous shape!!!As the late DJ Frankie Hollywood Crocker from WBLS in NYC used to say: That lady is 6'2 worth of DYNAMITE!!! I would love to get my hands on the CD Compilation that you guys are talking about. When she re-made The Stylistics Betcha By Golly Wow, I was definately: WOWED!!! The girl could blow, but she never truly received her props. When she made Suddenly with The Whispers, it was an instant classic in the NYC Metro Area. Phyllis's and Wallace Scott's voices blended magically! I wish I could've been there to help her when she was going through depression. I would've at least tried to put a smile on her face, and to be a friend. That's what I think Phyllis's problem was, she didn't have any true friends. She also had a hard time trusting people. That's what happened to Marylin Monroe too. 'NUFF SAID

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    There's a terrific one hour documentary on the life of Phyllis Hyman on some relatively new (at least in the Bay Area) cable station, TV One. Watch for them to rebroadcast their "Unsung" series. Interviews with her sisters and brother, Regina Belle, David Nathan, The Whispers, etc. The documentary goes well with the Phyllis biography, "The Strength Of A Woman."

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    Quote Originally Written by NickNack View Post
    Track List:

    1. Love Surrounds Us Everywhere (w/McCoy Tyner) 5:13
    16. I'll Be Around (w/McCoy Tyner) 6:12
    Finally both posted online


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    Phyllis Hyman - The Diva - UNSUNG

    Hey everyone...

    Glad to hear that some of you got to see the Phyllis Hyman - UNSUNG Biography/ Documentary. It was well done I thought, but it really didn't shed any new light (in my own personal view), as it came across as being quite vanilla - nothing the book really hadn't covered or touched on. It was nothing more than a basic overview of her life in my opinion. She was a much, much more indepth and complex personality than what was displayed on TV. To have witnessed some of her antics in real life, was to believe your eyes and ears. Phyllis had a wicked sense of humour, along with the biggest heart though...she really did. I miss her like crazy.

    Fans must understand that it's hard to capture Phyllis in a concept such as a Biog, as she was a Larger Than-Life-Personality. She could cuss you out like no one ever had, then turn around and tell you that she loved you - then offer to take you out to have a few drinks in the very same breath! The energy she could and used to exude was incredible. Had any footage of Phyllis been used where she actually got to speak, TV One would morel than likeyl have had to have bleeped out a LOT of what what was being said, depending upon what was going on in Phyllis' life at the time of the interview.

    I was originally contacted by the Producers of TV ONE a year ago and was asked to contribute, but as things unfolded there was no need for me to do so.

    Many, if not close to all of the still photos used, were submitted by my long time and very old friend, Mr. Carlos Suarez - Phyllis Hyman's FIRST Personal Assistant. When it came down to the nitty gritty, I thought it would be nice for Carlos to shine for a change (instead of myself), as he's stood in the background for many years (along with his own story), which was long overdue to be told. He had confided in me many times over the years stating that this was the way he wanted things to be. Hence any of his commentary not being included in the book written on Phyllis Hyman. That's 15 some odd years he spent with Phyllis (and myself on the road) that were purposely omitted from being published. There's a big story still waiting to be told there. I too, opted not to contribute to the book (for personal reasons).

    While some might already know this fact, I'll say mention it here for the heck of hit anyway....
    The record companies knew Phyllis didn't sell as many records as they would have liked or as many as other artists did, but as time progressed, so did the sales of her product. That being said and with Phyllis putting out a record approximately every 5 years (or sporadically at best), Club Owners alike KNEW that Phyllis Hyman was a big draw when it came to her performing Live as she could fill any club to the rafters without having put our a record (in years). She always sold-out shows. She was a rarity in that regard... she truly was! Her fans just loved her demenor, her banter and the simple fact that she used to come down off the stage and eat directly off of people's plates during any given performance. Some of her gigs were often for 4 to 7 days at a time, at the same venue. That's how many nights she could turn over her attendance (twice a night, I might add).
    It brings a smile to my face just recalling that. That's honestly how Phyllis made a great deal of her money - from her Live Perfomances, Radio Jingles and doing Seminars. Phyllis was also the spokesperson for a Bartending School Operation which was located in Manhattan, at one time.

    The TV Documentary also failed to mention how confontational Phyllis was with club owners, which eventually got her
    black-balled from certain venues, but that's a whole other documentary, LOL. By Phyllis' own hand and choice, she'd also posed for a gentleman's magazine back in 1983, and did a 4 page spread for them. Due to this, her then sponsors dropped her like a hot potato. They no longer wanted her face and name to be associated with their products. In all fainess she was forewarned by them that she would no longer be their Spokes Woman (should she go through with the photo shoot). I recall her telling me that she really didn't care what they thought, or of the fact that she stood to lose a lot of future earnings. She was determined to do it regardless. She said it was something she always wanted to do - needed to do... We all know now, of how that reckless decision ended up damaging her career for a while. She over came things though... that was Phyllis for you - an underdog that just couldn't be pinned down.


    None the less, Carlos' insightful commentary (which was ultimatley spoken via the female voice hosting the TV Show), was nothing less than incredible. The photos he'd supplied were spectacular also - what a retropsective - what a walk down memory lane.

    As a Head's Up, there are a few things are tentatively slated to be released on Phyllis this coming year. I'd spoken to someone at Philly International Records a couple of months back and they said that they were thinking of doing something new on Phyllis in 2009... not sure when, but I asked them to consider me to write the Liner Notes for the project. At the time of conversation with them, they were just trying to figure out a way to Promote her, while bringing her image as well as her music, back to life once again.

    I'm also just embarking upon releasing some Phyllis material, but things are just in the infancy stages at this point. Can't let the cat out of the bag right now, but I'm very open to people's interests and to see what THEY'D like to see become available on the commercial market. If you've got any ideas, please drop me a line here or at FamousMikeyG@hotmail.com. I'd love to hear from any the Phyllis fans out there.

    If anyone is interested, I've written a few reviews on some of Phyllis' CDs a while back. They can be found over at www.amazon.co.uk .


    Cheers,

    FamousMikeyG
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    Bless her heart..
    Phyllis was very much like a female version of Luther Vandross..They had similar ways and very similar love woes~!!
    Both just wanted to be loved so badly but were unlucky in love.
    The lady had such a distinctive sultry voice.She was one of my favorite vocalists...
    If someone can listen to "Somewhere In My Lifetime" and not feel anything they must have had a lobotomy.
    I was truly heart broken when she passed..


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    Interesting to read about - and now hear more of (courtesy of YT) - Phillis Hyman. I found a song of hers taped from radio back in 1979 and kept playing it back in the car when out with my girlfriend (now wife) at the time. It was "You Know How to Love Me" - what a fantastic record, terrific rhythm and a fabulous voice.

    I looked to see if anyone referenced this song in the thread but not that I could find so it had to get a mention...

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