Reply With QuoteGet the vinyl 12" of "I Love New York" for perfect quality sound and what's more, the much longer full version!
Underground Hit [Level 5]
I have the Salsoul Classics Vol. 3&4 CD and every time I listen to Track 9 on Disc 3, "I Love NY" by Metropolis, I am always disappointed at how the sound quality gets very inferior towards the end (low and muffled). I even bought a second copy of that CD and the same exact sound of "I Love NY" was on that one as well. It's almost like deja vu because Casablanca Records was notorius for having the tail ends of their records sound very lousy on vinyl. I have Giorgio's "Knights In White Satin" LP and "I Wanna Funk With You Tonight" sounds so pitiful near the end. I also have Donna Summer's "Four Seasons Of Love" LP and "Spring Reprise" also has that sound; almost like a "frying" sound. The irony is that "I Love NY" is the last song on Disc 3 so that momentum is there, even if no one else knows it. I'm wondering if the original LP version of "I Love NY" also had this sound deterioration near the end. I don't know if any other Salsoul reissue has "I Love NY" on it.
Platinum Record [Level 8]
Get the vinyl 12" of "I Love New York" for perfect quality sound and what's more, the much longer full version!
Underground Hit [Level 5]
Got myself lately the Disco Dogs cd , on this album you get the 12 inch version and the sound is great ....RU
Buy The Disco Dogs vol.2 available in vinyl or cd ... i don't know what happened to vol.1 for some reason it never got released.....RU
''Dreamin' about those disco lights''
**Dreamin\' about those disco lights**
Double Platinum Record [Level 9]
Many Salsoul releases are from needle drops (Unidisc and Charly). Sounds like this one is too, and they didn't use a very good cartridge.Originally Written by Robbie
Decreased treble and/or volume at the end of a side is unavoidable with vinyl, since the linear velocity is much lower towards the center of the disc and there is simply less room to squeeze in all the information. The mastering engineer has to trade off volume and/or treble against probable distortion. The problem is worsened when played back on cartridges with large styli or designed with durability in mind (including all DJ ones).
José Rodriguez (who mastered all of Tom Moulton's productions and countless others for the USA) seemed to be able to cut many records loud and bright right up until the end -- US copies of "African Queens" by The Ritchie Family is a good example of this -- but you must have a cartridge with a microline stylus to hear the benefits of this. On a DJ cart or low-end consumer model, you'll get loads of distortion from the mistracking.
Gold Record [Level 7]
This is one of the reasons why I like CD reissues that are cut from masters. The stylus on a well-adjusted pivot tracking tonearm is only totally perpendicular to the groove at 2 points over a whole 12" side. As records are cut in linear fashion, playback with a pivot tonearm is tecnically incorrect. Even though I have a linear-tracking turntable, this problem is never totally eradicated and a larger stylus will still flop about in the tighter groove.
LA's Contemporary label actually cut some of their '60s sides with a view to reducing inner-groove distortion, though I'm not sure if this was in the EQ process, or strictly down to groove control.
My (now defunct) favourite cartridge, Denon's DL-304, has the tiniest of tips and tracks at 1g. It is the closest I have ever heard to perfect inner-groove tracking (which is why I rate it so highly) and despite its feather weight, tracks warped and flawed grooves without skipping, unless the case is too extreme. I have heard cartridges for 5 times the price that can't get into the grooves like this.
Double Platinum Record [Level 9]
Denon still makes a few other carts, such as the DL110, DL160, and the highly regarded DL103 series (the latter being moving coil units). I haven't heard these myself, so I have no opinion on them.
The Shure V15VxMR is generally regarded as the current champ for tracking. Just as the Denon you describe, it is lightweight, has a microline stylus, and tracks at only 1 gram. This is what I use, and I would find it hard to settle for anything less now. It can be had relatively cheaply in the USA, but unfortunately costs a lot more elsewhere (particularly Europe). I got mine through mail-order, but apparently Shure has since clamped down on US retailers selling them to customers outside of the country.
Gold Record [Level 7]
I read in one of the UK mags that Denon had stopped moving-coil production outright, but hopefully this isn't so. I have a backup DL-304 which has to last; and re-tipping is too expensive and cumbersome. I'll have to investigate the Shure.
Double Platinum Record [Level 9]
That's certainly possible... :( but I still see them being offered on the various online shops, so it looks like there's still a few stockpiled around the globe. The Shure is a moving-magnet design, but at least the stylus is replaceable (and quite cheaply if you go direct to Shure).
Mistracking drives me up the wall, which is why I doubt I'll ever bother trying a Grado again.
Gold Record [Level 7]
For Sale - hardly used...one Grado Platinum Reference which only slighty outperforms a Stanton 500. Sold to muggins as an excellent moving coil by cloth-eared assistant in reputable hi-fi store. In truth, over-priced and over-rated moving magnet with admirable low-noise/high-ish output and fancy wooden presentation case. But that's it.:roll:
Double Platinum Record [Level 9]
Ouch. I'm glad I stopped after getting a Blue that couldn't track and had dropouts in the left channel. I actually had a hell of a time getting the Shure, since nobody here actually stocks them. Every store seemed to have only two opinions. Either that it was way overpriced and I should just get this nice Grado Gold (which as one shopkeeper proudly told me, was the same as the Platinum, just minus the fancy wood body -- wow, that boosts my opinion of the company even more! :evil: ), or that it was sonically terrible, a "lifeless, uninvolving" cartridge, and I should invest $2000 in a moving-coil unit with a frequency response roughly as flat as the Himalayas. I took a gamble and ordered the Shure, and I'm very pleased with it.
I just don't understand the whole Grado-worship thing that goes on in vinyl circles. I often see people complaining about mistracking Grados on the Vinyl Asylum, and they invariably get a long-winded response from the Grado faithful about needing to set the VTA, VTF, anti-skate, etc., correctly. But no amount of tweaking is going to revoke the fact that Grado stylii are simply too big to track hot signals. I don't know if these people are deaf, or if they only listen to silent records, or what. For the music that we love, decent tracking is very important, and those carts just can't do it.
Gold Record [Level 7]
Before I completely throw this thread off course, may I just add that said guilty Grado cartridge cut its teeth on a DISCO record, Montana's 'Paul's Happy', followed by several other DISCO 12" singles. In my eyes, I have now redeemed myself for the earlier ranting and this is still a bona-fide DISCO topic, though of a more technical nature.
I just wanna hear my DISCO properly!
(Ahem).
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