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It's been said that times moves on so fashions change:
DISCO was a 70's thing that died in the dawn of the 80's.
HI-NRG DISCO was an 80's thing that also died in the 80's.
But it seems that modern forms of music are here to stay:
HOUSE was born in the late 80's... got extremely popular in the 90's and (even today) shows no signs of going away.
RAP appeared in the early 80's. It is now more than 20 years old and shows no signs of going away. On the contrary, it is stronger than ever.
Indie rock was born with the 1977 punk "revolution" (?!). It created this "scene" (names change, from punk to new wave to grunge to brit-pop, but it is all indie rock. It also shows no sign of going away.
Doesn't that seem stange... that DISCO and HI-NRG were "finished" while RAP, HOUSE & ROCK seems to be here to stay ??
Why is that so ? Any ideas ? What could possibly come after HOUSE, if it finished like DISCO?
Double Platinum Record [Level 9]
There seems to be a basic but unexplained rule in this crazy world we live in - if it's good finish it, if it's crap keep it going forever! I actually like alot of house but it hasn't got the style & class that disco had in it's multi-faceted hey day. If we could turn the clock back 23 years, I don't think 'disco' would be so prematurely murdered by the media when they knew how bleak the future would be, creativity-wise.
...ya gotta beat the street......
Underground Hit [Level 5]
I like HOUSE too. Very much indeed.
But i want to call your attention to the amount of time it lasts if compared to the music made in the 70's and 80's.
DISCO was perceived as a transitory fad. It lasted from 1974 to 1982.
HI-NRG was totally ignored when not treated as trashy music... even worse than 70's disco.
But HOUSE keeps going on from 1988 up to today. It seems it will last forever, because it shows no sign of going away.
Indie Release [Level 4]
Did you intentionally forgot trance and techno?What about the elctroclash?
Isn't it funny that when you listen to new house track and say a Kym Mazelle track from late 80's you can not hear very much variation or development. Even the use of loops and samples is an old thing just used more nowadays.
So what does that tell about innovation and progress? It makes me kind of sad.
:cry:
Nevertheless I strongly believe that the happy days will be here again. Many late seventies and early eighties born young adults are truly in love with original disco tunes.
Besides hasn't the seventies retro boom in fashion/music lasted longer than the seventies by now allready? :D
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Even though I lived through it and worked as a DJ, I view it like this. I don't mean this in any derogatory way or say it with any malice or venom.
Disco was a sideshow in the overall development of Dance Music. It was where black music was temporarily blown off course
Rap, House and Garage still exist, because they are more true to Dance Music's overall ethos and they have managed to appeal to successive generations of youth. Disco was old man's music, before it even began.
What virtually everyone here seems to love, strings and orchestral arrangements, were vestiges of an older generation of musicians and music industry moguls, desperate to halt the drift away from such things in popular music culture. It was a last attempt to control youth and its musical tastes.
I'm sure these guys saw the writing on the wall and didn't like what they saw. Maybe they were right, maybe they were wrong.
Double Platinum Record [Level 9]
In a strange sort of way I agree with Quinny ( :o ) that orchestrated 'disco' was a 'sideshow' that was in its own little fantasy world, & that's precisely why I love it. It appeals to my fondness for all things glamorous & well-constructed yet strange & surreal at the same time. Thanx Q for giving me a newly realised & exciting slant on why I love disco music '74 - '82 so much! (amazing isn't it that although loving disco is so much a part of who I am, I never stop questioning why I do; just like why I constantly question why I have the mood swings I have & why my sexuality is why it is- god I'm getting far too introspective & deep aren't I?!
...ya gotta beat the street......
Chart Hit [Level 6]
Bottom line is it is cheaper to produce rap,house and garage music than it was disco.That's one of the reasons these genres continue to exist as the record corporations have a financial interest in keeping this genre alive and kicking.When the next cheaper alternative comes along just watch what happens.Personally I find it a stretch to lump rap into the genre of music.Furthermore how come if the rap and house genre's are so true to the black music roots that they continue to sample and rework the disco classics?As far as drifting away from the old vestiges of music I thought that happened with the previous generation and rock and roll.Originally Written by QUINNY
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THANK YOU!
Underground Hit [Level 5]
Concerning the roots of rock and roll, pop and soul music born from the late 50's onwards, we can see that orchestras (or strings + horn sections) had been around since.
They were an integral part of pop and soul in the 60's and the 70's (they were even present in rock).
Philly soul used strings a lot, so it seemed natural that DISCO incorporated them as part of its ingredients. It was normal for everybody to use orchestras and normal for us, listeners, to hear them in a song.
But at the dawn of the 80's a new (programming) keyboard technology was commercially available... but I think it was made available because the world got poorer and could not afford many things which had been around before... In music, orchestras were one of these things.
So the whole thing changed to adapt to a new world. The problem is that the "changing process" or the "evolution process" became staled. It reached rock bottom. Can things go even more cheaper? Less melodic ? Less artistic ?
The music standards have been lowed so much to a point that I can't see how they can be raised again.
Pick up rock music for instance. It seems unlikely there will be another SGT. PEPPER'S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND one day in the future.
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Thank goodness. I raved over it at the time (I was 15), but now I think to myself what a load of PRETENTIOUS, PURILE CODSWALLOP!! Pop music of all genres sells us down the river ya know?
Underground Hit [Level 5]
I like that record, along with REVOLVER, THE WHITE ALBUM, ABBEY ROAD, etc...
But I agree that from time to time, rock musicians and rock critics proclaim to have in their hands a piece of revolutionary new music which has never been done before in the world. These albums really mark the history of pop music... as if other styles were not able to produce innovative music. It was Sgt. Pepper's in the 60's, The Sex Pistols in the 70's, Oasis and Nivana in the 90's and these things go on with press approval, so most of the public/readers would assume that it is all that matters and all the rest is crap. People are very easy to be influenced by what they read.
The pretentiousness in rock is awsome. I think you don't find it in other styles, now matter how good and innovative things were also produced.
If it is not guitar oriented, loud and agressive than it is crap, expendable or most of the time ignored.
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