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please post some rare disco labels
not necessarily obscure labels but certain labels that only released a small number of 12" singles
i need to make a list to keep with me at all times
i am worried that i may be overlooking stuff while digging
thanks in advance
Gold Record [Level 7]
What are you into - the music or the obscurity of the records? Surely something being obscure to you should be all that counts, right? There are plenty of rare records out there which there are no markets for, simply because they're rubbish. I can help you waste your money, if that's what you really want...Originally Written by Spellbound
What would you do without your muesli...where would you be without a bowl?
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good stuff of course
although i am quite sure mediocre records from back then cannot be half as bad as the mediocre records from this day and age
good records that may be easily overlooked while digging
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[quote="Forrrce"]Couldn't agree more. Thank you Forrrrce for writing that. At lasyt, someone else with a modicum of common sense. There's normally a very good reason why some records are obscure and 99 times out of 100, it ain't because they're brilliant, lost gems.
Gold Record [Level 7]
You think all music was better back then? You're simply pitting organic garbage from twenty years ago against computerised garbage now. Either way, it's garbage. Maybe you should let the forum users know what tracks and style of disco you like - do you not think you'd learn more that way?
There aren't many labels that were consistent throughout their catalogues, large or small - really, only labels with 'in-house' bands could truly claim any linearity (Sugarhill, for instance) - but even then, not every record sounds good to you, no matter how much of a fan you may be.
If you just want a showpiece collection, then watch eBay and take a note of what people pay the most money for. If you want to learn what to expect from disco (or any other type of music), start taking some risks.
What would you do without your muesli...where would you be without a bowl?
Gold Record [Level 7]
Quinny - damn right. Gimme five!
What would you do without your muesli...where would you be without a bowl?
Underground Hit [Level 5]
I always buy anything on the Moby Dick imprint - that **** is bad!
Leather is the way forward!
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i listen to and enjoy all styles
even though i was not born yet the 1970's will always be my favorite time period for music
i am just looking for some recommendations
i go through hundreds of 12" records every month and unfortunately cannot listen to them all at once
if i had a list of some lesser known records and labels to look out for then i would feel comfortable in knowing i may not have overlooked something while digging
i really could care less about having the most prized and rarest disco record collection
everyone i know (my age and younger) could give a damn about disco
i live in an international city and have met kids from throughout europe and most of them completely **** on disco
especially the kids from england
Double Platinum Record [Level 9]
Jesus F%$#ing Christ! The person asks for a little assistance and ends up getting another oratory on "rare/not rare". Not again people, :x please.
Quinny: How nice of you to think Forrrce has some common sense because he agrees with you. :roll:
Forrrce: A little surprised at the lecture coming from a guy who normally shares his knowledge with a lot more grace. :-?
Spellbound: Your question is not that easy because of all the one-shot, one-hit, here-today-gone-tomorrow labels that became prevalent during that era. Plus, as an example, I might think an import label I see once or twice here in the U.S. is "small" but could be quite profitable overseas. In any case, as I run across the "non-giants" I'll gladly list and you can take a chance.
Advance Promo Copy [Level 3]
I really got the feeling that English is Spellbound's second language..Ha ha, just kidding. :roll: My observation (after a couple of Heinekens, no less) would just be that, among the younger crowd, disco is becoming very chic again these days...but usually they don't know that Chic was disco.
Underground Hit [Level 5]
To be fair to Forrrce and Quinny it was a ridiculous question.
Leather is the way forward!
Gold Record [Level 7]
NickNack: as the 'grand daddy' of the 'board, I can see why you have an open and fair approach with requests like the one in hand, but cut this jaundiced upstart some slack.
I gripe on occasion about the new disco converts who want to run before they can walk. The music itself becomes secondary because what appeals to them is the rarity or the (insert 1970s club name here) factor. We don't know what Spellbound is really into, he hasn't been specific - and why not? Saying you 'like all kinds' means nothing.
Who says he'll even like any of the 'rare' records you tip him off about? To him, would that even matter? I think if he's just angling for information, he should be a bit more upfront about it!
To quote Instant Funk, 'Can You See Where I'm Coming From'?
:D :) :( :o :-? 8) :lol: :x :P :oops: :cry: :evil: :roll:
Gold Record [Level 7]
It's funny how this topic came up, I just decided out of the blue to go check out this used record shop that I haven't been to in a few years in downtown San Diego... Normally, it's hard to shop there because it costs $1.00 per hour to park. It's also hard to park unless you get there when he first opens. On top of that, he doesn't dust his store at all under those circumstances, I only got thru the letter H, before I had to call it quits.... I wasn't shopping for anything in particular. Here is a list of what I bought.
First Circle - Miracle Worker (EMI) '87
Faith, Hope & Charity - 4 song promo (RCA 2272) '76
1. Life Goes On 2. Gradually 3. You're My Peace Of Mind 4. Positive Thinking
Gwen Guthrie - Hopscotch (Island 640) '83
Bionic Boogie - Bionic Boogie (Polydor 6123) (LP) '77
Gazebo - Lunatic (Baby 0115) '83
Fat Larry's Band - Sunrise, Sunset (OMNI 956) '86
Foxy - The Way You Do The Things You Do (TK 41) '76
any lost gems here? any comments?
Advance Promo Copy [Level 3]
spellbound....."rare" is in the eye of the beholder...if u love Donna Summer , and u find a DJ copy of a DS 12" that u don't have...be happy. If u hate DS, and u come across 15 copies in mint condition x Patrick Cowleys personal collection of autographed DS white label promos, what good is having these ???
i always go with the an old collectors caveat...buy what u love / what u want....don't buy what u think is worth money. because, A, you will ultimately get burned, and B, half the fun of collecting / searching is discovering on ur own....
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[quote="NickNack"]Jesus F%$#ing Christ! The person asks for a little assistance and ends up getting another oratory on "rare/not rare". Not again people, :x please.
Quinny: How nice of you to think Forrrce has some common sense because he agrees with you. :roll:
Forrrce: A little surprised at the lecture coming from a guy who normally shares his knowledge with a lot more grace. :-?
NickNack: Oh to be perfect in an imperfect world. It must be tough!! :lol: :lol: :lol: I'm hardly likely to think someone is full of common sense if I think they're talking crap. Neither would you or anyone else, eh? Put it down to human frailty.
To be honest the guy asked a rather impossible question. If he's already a seasoned crate digger, then he's asking us to furnish him with the proverbial needle in a haystack. If he's someone who's just got into things recently, he's gonna spend an awful lot of dough and time finding the things we could point him in the direction of. Either way, he's asking for a shortcut and we all know it just doesn't happen like that. People have either built up their collections over 5, 10, 15, 20 , 25, 30 years collecting, DJing or both.
Another thing, when we bought (or were given records) all those years ago did we collect them for their rarity? No way Jose. They were all new and untried. I personally find the idea of a record being worth more just because there are less of them around rather ludicrous. It certainly wouldn't be a reason why I'd seek one out. I'd buy a record or CD to give me enjoyment first. The fact that a record I bought 20 or 25 years ago is now rare doesn't make it sound any better does it?
Therefore the guy ought to come clean.
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since when is asking for recommendations such a ridiculous question?
i am in no way a threat to your reputation, your record collector status or to your prized record collections
please leave your egos aside on this one
i doubt that you would have had such a snobbish attitude towards me as an infant back in 1980
why should your attitude be any different towards me now that i am 23 years old?
new disco convert?
you do not even know me
i have been a fan of disco music ever since i was a young kid growing up in the mid to late 1980's
unfortunately back then i did not have very many resources to assist me
on top of that i did not have much money
sometimes i wonder if the attitudes i encounter in here are directed at me or towards my generation
is there something here that goes much deeper such as personal issues and low self esteem?
music can and will be enjoyed by all people regardless of age
i try to take my 7 year old cousin digging with me whenever possible
we could give a damn about being cool, hip, en vogue or having the rarest most prized record collections
Gold Record [Level 7]
Spellbound,
You can beat the amateur psychology drum as much as you like. Someone of your 'self esteem' wouldn't have a problem with finding their own way around. Have you not thought that maybe you're approaching the topic the wrong way? We are several posts into your thread, yet only one board member has (sympathetically) offered to forward info to you. Does this not tell you something?
Double Platinum Record [Level 9]
Not to me and obviously not to Spellbound.
Advance Promo Copy [Level 3]
As someone who's in my mid-20s, I can sympathize with both sides of this issue. I think it's silly to ask a question like, "What rare record labels should I be looking out for?" Just ask yourself, "What labels do I already love?" and then look for records on that label. Note the producer, the mix, the studio, the date, etc. Look for records with that same producer, studio, remixer, whatever. File these away in your mind. That is the key to record shopping. But that's still no guarantee that you will love every record you buy. I've been collecting records since I was 16, and I've bought a LOT of records that I never DJ, never even play...that's just the way it goes. Some of them I save because they aren't that bad, some I trade back in the next time I go "hunting". If you do your research, immerse yourself in your interests, you won't make too many bad purchases. I think the reason people are reacting with hostility is because you're looking for a shortcut. No one's going to give all the shortcuts to you, just as none were given to any of us. Besides that, there's plenty of valuable information within this forum and others like it....just have a look around.
I can understand if there is a little animosity about people in my generation and the way we collect records. With the Internet, it's so much easier for us....with Napster, Audio Galaxy, Kazaa and all the others anyone can download most any song they are curious about and be listening to it within anywhere from 20 minutes to 24 hours. Then they can go to a site like All Music Guide or this one and find out anything about that artist almost immediately....it is ridiculously simple. No wonder the DJ is the new rock star. I myself am just obssessed with finding music I love and identify with, and then playing this music for the people I love....it's like sharing a very unique, personal vision. That is why you must find what you love for yourself...your own favorite rare record labels....
Realistically, I don't think that the basic way to shop for records has changed that much at all. It's still fun to take risks, to occasionally buy a record just because the song titles are cool or the cover art is nice. However, I - like most everyone here I'm sure, young and old - am very grateful for the Internet. It helps me spend less money on music I don't want and more money on music that I know I will love and play over and over again. Even with mp3s, there's still way more weird/beautiful/interesting music out there than I could ever consume in my whole life. I'm going to try my best though!
Advance Promo Copy [Level 3]
I think I should be a silver member after that last post. :D This should be by number of characters or words instead of number of posts. Just joking...
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i am not seeking any sympathy
i was just simply seeking recommendations from people who were actually alive during the particular time period in question
i have absolutely no idea how this topic turned into money and rare not rare issue
i think some of you need to read my original post over and over again until you finally understand what my question was
we all know damn well we all can easily find a record someone else may have a very hard time finding due to our different locations
how do you know which records are readily available and not readily available where i live?
i had a neighbor when i was growing up who's mother was from england. i remember her telling me one time after returning from a trip to europe that people from england were a bunch of "record digging, rare groove, my record collection is bigger than yours, self conceited assholes."
while i do not consider that to be a fair description of the entire population of england, i now have a greater understaning of her comments and why she said what she said.
Double Platinum Record [Level 9]
Forrrce: You still get props dude so don't go 'jaded' on us yet.
Quinny: What can I say? You must live by the words, "I've got you under my skin." :)
OK, if we must, and I'm the one that asked that we please don't. The ugliest four-letter word on this board: RARE :lol: .
Graham said this a long time ago but it was glossed over. We seem to be operating under different definitions for the word, all of them correct.
WEBSTER'S DEFINITION #1: NOT WIDELY KNOWN; ESPECIALLY VALUED FOR ITS UNCOMMONESS
WEBSTER'S DEFINITION #3: NOT WIDELY DISTRIBUTED
Two valid synonyms for rare are: INFREQUENT or PRECIOUS
So, which trick bag are we coming from? Are we in "Collectors" mode or "I'm just browsing"? I'm an "infrequent" kind of guy myself. Money or perceived value doesn't come into play when I hear the word rare, right or wrong. I just think, "There's not a lot of them out there." This is also how I interpreted Spellbound's question. That he or she was not looking for a "prized catch", just lesser known labels that might contain some good music.
Quinny, Forrrce, Leatherman --- I get the impression you feel otherwise. The word rare takes you into "precious" mode and you think people who use it are there also or want to be. I'm not saying you're wrong in that assumption since you're following the definition. I just think you should remember there are people like me who can take rare to mean, 'small in number', 'limited quantities', 'hard to get', without thinking RARITY = $$$.
And this edition of "Life with Nicky" has been brought to you by.... :D
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And the guy still hasn't come clean or given us any insight into what he's into. He's had every chance now to spill a few beans.
BTW: It's not ego, snobbishness, ageism, racism or protectionism. One man's rare steak is another's well done.
I could say for instance, look for Paladin Records. I'm only aware of one 12" release on it (although there could be others), by Onward International - A Foot In The Door. For my money it's a belter, but.............others here would probably disagree. Now, you may already consider this to be old hat or you may think 'geez, I gotta find that record'. Either way, at the moment of writing I have no way of knowing and if it's the latter and you either (a) absolutely adore the record once you find it or (b) you make a killing at some stage by buying it and selling it you'd be forever in my debt. So where would I collect from?
If you hated it you could always mail it to me :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll:
You gotta do your own thing, man!!
Double Platinum Record [Level 9]
Go onto GEMM and you'll see vendors trying to sell used Donna Summer albums for $30 each when you can still get them in the 50¢ bins at flea markets. And a quick tour on eBay will show you that there are plenty of people that think any piece of vinyl is rare -- because you can't get them at Best Buy or Wal-Mart, and they don't even make them anymore! (sarcasm) I'm always coming across people who think they're sitting on a goldmine because they inherited a bunch of battered pop albums that sold in the millions back in the day. :roll:
My philosophy: If it's cheap ($2 or less) and it even looks disco, I'll buy it. If it's reasonably priced ($10 or less) and I've heard good things about it, or am familiar with the producer/performers, I'll grab it. Anything more than that, and I have to know that I'll like it very much. I do admit that when I see certain records discussed repeatedly here, it does encourage me to check them out...
Gold Record [Level 7]
...Got that, Spellbound? (Many yawns later..) Fess up! Your peurile jibes disguised as statements by your neighbour's mother are just a figment of your imagination (which is running on empty, it seems). Wanna be taken seriously? Stop throwing your toys out of your pram and act like someone who should be taken seriously.
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