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    The hostility between rock and disco was 100% one-sided. It was rock that felt threatened and bent-out by disco's existence.

    Being of the " to each his own" mind-set, the disco crowd was way too busy doing its own thing & could care less what was happening in the rock world.
    ....Besides, most disco lovers were music lovers . The types who embraced all things new and generally didn't limit their record collections to just disco.

    The rock crowd....pretty pigeon holed.

    The Ethel Merman Creed of the disco crowd was : come one, come all . That meant The Beach Boys , Dolly Parton , Blondie, Santana , ...Charo ... come on down ....
    . & can anyone name even ONE disco song that espoused an anti-rock sentiment ??

    What nerve then to destroy OUR records .

    Since it was disco that was being attacked , we should have answered with our own Comiskey Park type festival .
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    Here are two songs that I'd have liked to have tossed into that funeral pyre::




    Lil' Bobby Seger

    Eagles DISCO STRANGLER (embarrassing vocals)


    Others you'd like to add to the pile?? ??


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    Well ya know what remicks, we disco people aren't that small minded. That said, to go along with this I'd pick "My Sharona". Burn baby burn! :)
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    Quote Originally Written by paul View Post
    Well ya know what remicks, we disco people aren't that small minded. That said, to go along with this I'd pick "My Sharona". Burn baby burn! :)
    the flames leaped five feet with that one!!!

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    Re: Disco should have had its own Comiskey Park record demolition

    I'm up for burning any of the countless self-aggrandizing rock records.

    The funny thing is, although the backlash most certainly killed disco, it was also the beginning of the end of rock.... which has been dead for years now, it's just that few people have realized it yet. Rock began taking itself SO SERIOUSLY and so many of its fans acted as though it was HUGELY IMPORTANT and HIGH ART when really, it was never anything more than entertainment.

    By glorifying its past to such a ridiculous extent, rock has painted itself into a corner (the same fate which happened to many Classical and Jazz genres). It's harder and harder for newer rock acts to get attention, because so many people believe that music cannot possibly be better than Led Zeppelin IV/Abbey Road/Who's Next/etc. New rock bands can't do anything different either, because then it's not rock. So it has become a genre firmly fixated on the past... which means it has no future.

    Dance, pop, and newer R&B genres, as much as they are dismissed by the rock set as "disposable", have the benefit that their fans haven't been brainwashed into thinking that the best music ever made was done by their grandparent's generation. As a result, these styles continue to evolve and remain relevant today.

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    I'd have to throw the 45rpm of the Osmonds' "Crazy Horses" (1972) into the burn pile. Even though the record gave them "rock cred" away from their bubblegum image established the year before with "One Bad Apple" (which I adore) .....I still think "Crazy Horses" is one of the more annoying-sounding records in '70s history.

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    I'm up for burning any of the countless self-aggrandizing rock records.

    The funny thing is, although the backlash most certainly killed disco, it was also the beginning of the end of rock.... which has been dead for years now, it's just that few people have realized it yet. Rock began taking itself SO SERIOUSLY and so many of its fans acted as though it was HUGELY IMPORTANT and HIGH ART when really, it was never anything more than entertainment.

    By glorifying its past to such a ridiculous extent, rock has painted itself into a corner (the same fate which happened to many Classical and Jazz genres). It's harder and harder for newer rock acts to get attention, because so many people believe that music cannot possibly be better than Led Zeppelin IV/Abbey Road/Who's Next/etc. New rock bands can't do anything different either, because then it's not rock. So it has become a genre firmly fixated on the past... which means it has no future.

    Dance, pop, and newer R&B genres, as much as they are dismissed by the rock set as "disposable", have the benefit that their fans haven't been brainwashed into thinking that the best music ever made was done by their grandparent's generation. As a result, these styles continue to evolve and remain relevant today.
    What a thought provoking post! & so true

    ....the way rock had built itself into this grandiose "king of the world" music genre ( I lay the blame largely at Rolling Stone Magazine's feet) .... and yes as the new techno instruments arrived in the 80's , rock was just as much on the way out as their hated disco.

    People that weren't there really need it made clear to them - this is truly an UGLY part of music history .... the way the establishment ,the rock -oriented music industry , circled the wagons and treated disco with such venom .




    The reps of these companies ...I dealt with the SF Bay area ones directly ... couldn't stand disco and made no secret of it and didn't lift one finger to promote it (save Bruce Wheeler from Arista .... he was the only one with a broader music appreciation) .

    They couldn't have been happier to see disco die and were pro-active in facilitating it with no repercussions from their labels' main offices. Disco's only hope in this antagonistic environment was to flee to independent labels (even creating their own) in order to get the music out there. And those poor indies were fighting against all odds to get distributed and heard. The power of the music itself is what achieved it ... remarkable really.

    It's shameful what went down.


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    I've never been much of a troublemaker...que sera sera and all that...and truth is, I was a big fan of both Bob Seger and the Eagles back then (that country-rock sound satisfied a number of my musical tastes)...however, I'll throw the following on the fire to get out some aggression on any of those past high school memories of hearing these annoyances on the cafeteria's juke box ad nauseam (I'm not even going to bold the font on their titles like I'd usually do because they don't deserve it) :

    "Dream Police" and "I Want You To Want Me" - Cheaptrick
    "Cold As Ice" and "Hot Blooded" - Foreigner
    "Dream On" and "Walk This Way" - Aerosmith
    "Carry On Wayward Son" - Kansas

    And the flames get higher and higher.
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    Another point I forgot to make is that in the process of becoming all SERIOUS and high and mighty, rock has eliminated the thing that made it enjoyable in the first place: Fun.

    When I hear rock albums from the 60s or 70s (at least, the ones which haven't been played to death), what strikes me is that they're still fun. I haven't heard a rock album since the 80s which wasn't all dour, angsty, whiny, self-absorbed, or full of aimless rage. Starting around 1980, rock became less and less fun, and it seems like after Nirvana made it big, a fatwa was issued prohibiting any frivolity in rock. For the past 20 years, it has become such an utterly joyless genre. Coldplay and Radiohead are good at what they do, but they still make me want to slit my wrists.

    I remember a couple of years ago on a different forum that someone moaned about the state of the charts. He went on about how he couldn't name any of the top 10 acts out now, how it was all rappers and pop acts, and how all of the current music was based around computers and not guitars. He wanted to know when the "revolution" was coming, because he felt it was overdue: every time the scene gets stale, some new rock act comes along and shakes things up. Yet this didn't seem to be happening, and fewer and fewer teenagers seemed interested in picking up guitars and playing 3-chord, 12-bar blues numbers. After many pages of discussion blaming radio/video games/ipods/music videos/etc., someone totally nailed it and said "No new major rock stars? The charts are full of rap and pop? You can't name any current rock acts? Sounds like the revolution has already happened. You're just on the wrong side of it"

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    I feel that rock died when all the artists making it were middle class/bourgeois background people - it lost it's working class/mass appeal. Rap music is the new rock music 'cos it has that nasty sound & image-consciousness that lots of kids like.
    Anyway, although this track was form the (post-'disco') late 80s, I think it's the best attempt I've heard at an 'anti-rock' dance record with its slagging off of the Rolling Stones, Dire Straits, Pink Floyd, Fleetwood Mac & the heavy metal genre! (& it's a great pop single too):



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    Quote Originally Written by BrunoRepublic View Post
    Another point I forgot to make is that in the process of becoming all SERIOUS and high and mighty, rock has eliminated the thing that made it enjoyable in the first place: Fun.

    When I hear rock albums from the 60s or 70s (at least, the ones which haven't been played to death), what strikes me is that they're still fun. I haven't heard a rock album since the 80s which wasn't all dour, angsty, whiny, self-absorbed, or full of aimless rage. Starting around 1980, rock became less and less fun, and it seems like after Nirvana made it big, a fatwa was issued prohibiting any frivolity in rock. For the past 20 years, it has become such an utterly joyless genre. Coldplay and Radiohead are good at what they do, but they still make me want to slit my wrists.
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    Well you know .....music that's enjoyable .... fun ....

    .......... that's --- gay . GLEE type stuff.

    It's a numbers game ....the majority of people out there increasingly live boring predicable lives doing regulated , franchised jobs and they need music that deflects their hopeless reality ... that relieves their angst. Music that's even angrier and more dismal than they are.....

    So rap fills that need nicely , but for those (read: white males) that refuse to cross over, there's still today's joyless rock to reinforce their no-nonsense concept of joyless maschismo which counters their "slave to the man" neutering.

    Disco was too fun .... too uplifting ... too gay ... It really was where the happy people went .....

    well-suited music for those born to be alive . .......

    But those kind of people were then - and even frighteningly more so now - ... in the minority.


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    Was any ROCK worse than the mind-numbing stupidity of the Rap/Hip-Hop genre?
    Ok, maybe crap like Insane Clown Posse--BUT did anyone see the Black Eyed Peas on the Superbowl?
    This is today's state-of-the-art MUSIC???? [ bugged out eyes rolling in disbelief]

    Gawdawful embarrassment. I got evidence:



    The only saving grace was the absence of possibly the worst song ever recorded:

    "my hump, my hump,
    my hump, my hump, my hump
    my hump, my hump
    my lovely lady lump(s)
    check-it-out" [evil/evil/evil]
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    re: marky's post -

    there's something disturbing in that whole imagery .
    cold. hard . mechanical. Third Reich .

    heaven forbid someone on stage should smile ... or create an atmosphere that would make me want to smile.

    we as a society are headed for trouble .


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    When I watch modern acts like the Black Eyed Peas I often think about 'The Emperor's New Clothes' story - I see everyone seemingly enjoying them while I just sit there thinking 'I don't get it', I just can't derive any enjoyment from this noise. I don't want to become a miserable older person but I think I've been one for the last 15 years when it comes to music!
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    Quote Originally Written by markydefad View Post
    "my hump, my hump,
    my hump, my hump, my hump
    my hump, my hump
    my lovely lady lump(s)
    check-it-out" [evil/evil/evil]
    Mr. M, what song r u referring too? Say wot!

    We were watching the Superbowl because my wife and I are mad about ze American football. Great game, I said GREAT GAME and then...this happened. I never understood the popularity of this non-musical combo. I simply don't. They sound like an UZI in the hands of Bambi. And when Fergie started Slashing that sweet child of hers, I had a genuine Disco moment and my mind was invaded by Easy Going chants like "Go away little girl". I hate to say this put I think that Remicks had an influence on this half time show. Maybe, just maybe this was the Comiskey moment of that genre. Maybe people start realizing that this is overhyped and overrated stuff. Maybe it's a turning point.

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    Mr. M, what song r u referring too? Say wot!

    We were watching the Superbowl because my wife and I are mad about ze American football. Great game, I said GREAT GAME and then...this happened. I never understood the popularity of this non-musical combo. I simply don't. They sound like an UZI in the hands of Bambi. And when Fergie started Slashing that sweet child of hers, I had a genuine Disco moment and my mind was invaded by Easy Going chants like "Go away little girl". I hate to say this put I think that Remicks had an influence on this half time show. Maybe, just maybe this was the Comiskey moment of that genre. Maybe people start realizing that this is overhyped and overrated stuff. Maybe it's a turning point.
    Hi Johan---glad to see you back in action!
    Didn't this song infect Europe with its skeevy virus?
    Use an antibacterial on your ears after listening. Purell for everyone!

    here's the lyrics to "My Humps"--truly one of the worst ever!



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    OMG, yes, but I believe that Fergie was only 3 years old when this was recorded. "Hey guys, we have another 15 songs, should we make a new album? No, just mix 'em all together in 1 track". BTW, we are going to send Rammstein to the 2012 Superbowl.

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    Anything by Fleetwood Mac. Sorry, I just got sick of hearing those songs over and over again.

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    Quote Originally Written by BrunoRepublic View Post
    I'm up for burning any of the countless self-aggrandizing rock records.

    The funny thing is, although the backlash most certainly killed disco, it was also the beginning of the end of rock.... which has been dead for years now, it's just that few people have realized it yet. Rock began taking itself SO SERIOUSLY and so many of its fans acted as though it was HUGELY IMPORTANT and HIGH ART when really, it was never anything more than entertainment.

    By glorifying its past to such a ridiculous extent, rock has painted itself into a corner (the same fate which happened to many Classical and Jazz genres). It's harder and harder for newer rock acts to get attention, because so many people believe that music cannot possibly be better than Led Zeppelin IV/Abbey Road/Who's Next/etc. New rock bands can't do anything different either, because then it's not rock. So it has become a genre firmly fixated on the past... which means it has no future.

    Dance, pop, and newer R&B genres, as much as they are dismissed by the rock set as "disposable", have the benefit that their fans haven't been brainwashed into thinking that the best music ever made was done by their grandparent's generation. As a result, these styles continue to evolve and remain relevant today.
    Look at what came out in the 80s, heavy metal-light also known as hair band rock. LOL, yeah, they really owned the disco crowd. Why didn't they have burnings of those records?

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    Yeah, we really had them scared and on the run so to speak. I still don't understand that guy doing that (Comiskey Park Bonfire); how could someone hate something so much and so bad to destroy what someone else liked. He really put a lot of people out of work and shook up not only the music world in the U.S.A. but around the world. We should have back lashed but most of us just went along with it (gullibility back then) thinking that maybe Disco was bad and we should jump ship like they wanted us to do, and like we eventually did (of course we had no choice because the disco records stopped rolling), and we bit the hook with a big rock and roll bait on the end of it. A few of us devoted souls held on to the end (like me), buying up old disco records that we never knew existed; remember going to the store and they had marked down disco records to a dollar or two? Just to get rid of them. I stocked up and kept those old albums for the longest. Ah the good ole days.

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    Re: Disco should have had its own Comiskey Park record demolition

    Why don't we have our own Comiskey Park buring right here in this DISCO Forum? Come on guys, let's start a thread, and just take all of those old rock and roll records (by title of course) and burn them in this forum!

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    I absolutely hate hip hop and rap; it was o.k. at first when it surfaced in the 70's, but it is off the chain now. DISCO gave birth to rap, which later gave birth to hip hop. So DISCO is the Mother and GrandMother of those two generes. It's not music, they primarily sample everything and are not that creative, and the lyrics are just plain awful, with no creativity whatsoever. We should hold a Comiskey Park for rap/hip hop also. Very little of it is good in my opinion. Maybe one or two artists that I like. What do y'all think? We've got to be careful though not to become a hate forum for other types of music in general, but, DISCO did get a bad, unfair "RAP" to say the least! What goes around comes around!

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    I wouldn't mind doing one for the rap of today, but I am a fan of rap from the late 70s to around the mid 90s. I thought there were some good positive messages in there, not about the bling and calling women ho's. Even with a group like NWA doing their gangsta rap, a lot of it was so over the top it you couldn't take it seriously. Rap was at it's peak when the producers could sample from any old tune and create a tapestry of sounds layered onto each other. It was also 'free' advertising for old tunes, that's the way I see it anyway. Many obscure funk artists might not have been rediscovered if hip hop producers weren't digging up their old records and people wanted to find out the originals.

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    Hey,
    how did this thread wind up being about RAP ?? .....?

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    Quote Originally Written by garrybcoston View Post
    Why don't we have our own Comiskey Park burning right here in this DISCO Forum? Come on guys, let's start a thread, and just take all of those old rock and roll records (by title of course) and burn them in this forum!

    Garry

    Great suggestion !
    & THAT 's precisely what THIS thread is supposed to be about!



    For instance that oh-so-clever sheiker of the booty .... Frank Zappa, who made a career of creating sporadic unlistenable music....wouldn't expect him to appreciate symphonic, richly-layered rhythms .... not sure he can even hold a steady beat ......

    So would someone please help me hurl these most unkind , meant-to-deride , concoctions of his high atop the burning heap.

    DISCO BOY
    DANCIN' FOOL

    he stayed true to form though : totally unlistenable .


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    Hey,
    how did this thread wind up being about RAP ?? .....?

    : Mark-KEEY!!!!

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    I always liked Zappa, I'll tell you more, I love Zappa. Now, I can understand that the lyrics of those 2 traxx R offensive 2 the Disco community and that they prove the arrogant way some "tolerancy preaching" artists deal with other people's favourite music thus unmasking them as hypocrites. But Zappa has delivered absolutely great music. No easy-listening that's for sure but nevertheless he's a legend and deserves to be considered as a legend.

    Please do not burn this one, as it is one of my favourite traxx by him:



    The bottom line of my comment = be open minded, try to absorb as much music as you can and don't be afraid to say what you like, ever! Because smashing or burning other people's records doesn't harm them. Saying that you LIKE 'em does. That confuses 'em and makes them think! BTW, if you turn on the radio, what songs do you hear when they play oldies? Exactly, DISCO, it survived the attack. A lot of that "superior" Rock music didn't! Ok?

    Now in the battle Rock vs. Dance, Prince pays tribute to Frankie. You see...and peace ruled the world again!

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