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    Original version of Diana Ross "Diana" album...

    The long awaited complete original version of the 1980 Diana Ross "Diana" album, produced by Bernard Edwards & Nile Rodgers of Chic, will be released next month as part of a deluxe 2-CD set. CD-1 will contain both complete versions of the album, while CD-2 will contain several bonus tracks, as well as previously unreleased material.


    Disc One:

    Diana - Original Album Release:

    01. Upside Down 4:05
    02. Tenderness 3:51
    03. Friend To Friend 3:19
    04. I’m Coming Out 5:23
    05. Have Fun Again 5:57
    06. My Old Piano 3:55
    07. Now That You’re Gone 3:59
    08. Give Up 3:45

    Diana - Unreleased Original Chic Mix:

    09. Upside Down 4:15 *
    10. Tenderness 5:07 *
    11. Friend To Friend 3:18 *
    12. I’m Coming Out 6:00 *
    13. Have Fun Again 7:08 *
    14. My Old Piano 4:51 *
    15. Now That You’re Gone 3:39 *
    16. Give Up 3:59 *


    Disc Two:

    01. Love Hangover (Extended Alternate Promo-Only Version) 10:23 *
    02. Your Love Is So Good For Me (12-Inch Version) 6:33
    03. Top Of The World 3:07
    04. Lovin’, Livin’ And Givin’ (LP mix) 5:12
    05. What You Gave Me (12-inch Version) 6:06
    06. You Were The One 4:01
    07. Diana Ross & The Supremes Medley Of Hits (12-Inch Version) 9:57
    08. No One Gets The Prize/The Boss (12-Inch Re-Edit) 9:38
    09. I Ain’t Been Licked (12-Inch Version) 5:16 *
    10. Fire Don’t Burn 3:20 *
    11. We Can Never Light That Old Flame Again (Alternate Mix) 4:40
    12. You Build Me Up To Tear Me Down 5:40 *
    13. Sweet Summertime Livin' 4:23 *

    * Previously Unreleased

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    Discovery,

    Thanks for the track listing - I've been looking for it, ever since I heard about the release.

    By chance, do you have the track listing for the 2-disc release of "Bad Girls" by Donna Summer due the same day as "Diana"? It will feature a second disc of unreleased/rare tracks as well.

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    Discovery,

    Thanks for the info on the disk. Even a 'non-Diana' fan like me will probably pick it up. I've seen several Diana/Supremes CD's with additional tracks and extended mixes out there. There's one with a slightly longer version of "You Keep Me Hangin' On" where either Mary or Flo (can't remember) takes over at the end. That I have to get.

    I hope this new one has good liner notes. Maybe we can get the real deal behind the extended "Love Hangover". From the time signature, it looks like the bootleg copy which is an extension of the Disconet version. Hopefully they cleaned it up a bit. Always sounded harsh, over-eq'd on the high end , no where near enough bottom and not as clean as it should be.

    One more thing: They better have kept those repeated string rushes. Don't want Quinny to get bored :) .

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    This is good news about 'Love Hangover' - I wonder who it's mixed by? I have the Disconet version which is only marginally better than the late '80s bootleg (which itself was appalling). I was told that Bobby Guttadaro's mix was mastered from a cassette tape, hence the very poor sound. The circumstances must have been pretty severe for a usually quality conscious Disconet to allow this. The mix was without doubt done form the multi-track - why no final reel master available (if this really is the case)???
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    I read the set will include a 28 page CD booklet wtih an essay by Brian Chin. Also, recollections by Nile Rodgers and Russ Terrana (who mixed the album that was eventually released in 1980 with Diana).

    I can't wait to hear the original Rodgers & Edwards mix of the album and all those rarities on Disc 2! Wow!! Release date is suppose to be July 29, 2003.

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    The track list for the Donna Summer "Bad Girls" deluxe 2-CD set is still unknown, but I'm looking forward to it as well.

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    I read in another chat room that the Donna Summer deluxe "Bad Girls" will be the "demo" version of the album, and the second disc will basically be the contents of "The Dance Collection" (the 12" mixes from the Casablanca days).
    If this is the case, I will be a little disappointed - I was looking for alternate versions and unreleased songs - not a 2nd disc with material that I already have on another CD).
    In contrast, this makes the "Diana" set completely astounding!

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    Yikes!!! I have always been sooooooooooo curious to hear how the original Rodgers-Edwards mixes compared to the version Miss Ross deigned to release.

    Now, 20+ years later, we shall hear for ourselves. Was Miss Ross right or wrong???? :roll:
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    More details about Diana and Bad Girls - Deluxe Editions!

    Picked up the July, 2003, issue of Ice Magazine at Tower Records yesterday (so is Tower going bankrupt or what???). This issue has some more details about the upcoming "Diana - Deluxe Edition" and "Bad Girls - Deluxe Edition," both scheduled for release on July 29th (along with Marvin Gaye's "I Want You - Deluxe Edition" and Leon Ware's "Musical Massage")!

    Here are some excerpts from the article.

    First, about Diana - Deluxe Edition:

    The May 1980 album was supposed to be a sharp departure from classic Motown, as Ross had recorded it with Chic, the preeminent disco band featuring Nile Rodgers and Bernard Edwards.

    "They did all these weird reggae tunes they could only get away with because Diana Ross was such a superstar," Weinger (Harry Weinger - Universal Music Enterprises VP of A&R) recounts. "Her vocals are more hard-edged and down in the mix - it's like she's attacking the songs. Motown heard that and said, 'That's not a Diana Ross record.' They did a pop version where there's more space for her vocals and the hooks are brought forward."

    Some copies of the sought-after Chic version haave circulated, but Disc One offers the mix commercially for the first time. The second CD, subtitled Diana: Dance, pieces together related club hits, mixes and some extra unreleased goodies.

    Highlights on the 13-track Disc Two include a 10-minute extended alternate version of "Love Hangover," which topped the pop, R&B and club charts in '76. "I'm real excited about this long version," says Weinger. "In the '70s, there was this promotional DJ pool service called Disconet. They did a great underground remix of the song, which we actually combined with the mixed CD release version."

    Twelve-inch versions of "Your Love Is So Good For Me," "What You Gave Me," "Diana Ross & The Supremes Medley of Hits," "No One Gets the Prize/ The Boss" and "I Ain't Been Licked" (unreleased) are featured, in addition to unissued songs "Fire Don't Burn," "You Build Me Up to Tear Me Down" and "Sweet Summertime Livin'."


    As for Bad Girls, the article continues,

    On the subject of 12-inches, Summer's Bad Girls- the 1979 double-album that produced the #1 hits "Hot Stuff" and "Bad Girls" - has a second disc devoted entirely to them. Hits from immediately before and after the album are included, like the chart-topping "MacArthur Park" from '78 and the long version of "On the Radio," her Foxes soundtrack contribution that clinched the #5 spot in '80.

    The first CD features one extra track in its own right: the previously unreleased demo version of the title track. Remastered from the original tapes, Bad Girls is bulked up with complete lyrics, session credits, photos and an essay.


    Some discs to look forward to!

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    Hi Keefe!

    These sound better each time we get a little more info. Geez, I'm actually waiting for a Diana Ross release. Maybe hell really did freeze over.

    I really need to stop doggin' this woman. I may not be her biggest fan but I bet my collection of Ross/Supremes records rivals our Marky. Diana - The lady I love to hate. :D

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    Hi Nicky,
    The way the weather has been so hot all over the U.S. (97 hideous degrees in San Francisco yesterday, today's only slightly cooler), there's no way that Hell could have froze over! :roll:

    I can't wait for those two CDs! From the article, the "Marvin Gaye - I Want You: Deluxe Edition" and the Leon Ware "Musical Massage" also sound like must haves! Sorry I didn't give you that portion of the article but I got tired of typing.

    Happy Pride, Nicky! How are you guys celebrating?

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    Quote Originally Written by keefelc
    Hi Nicky,
    The way the weather has been so hot all over the U.S. (97 hideous degrees in San Francisco yesterday, today's only slightly cooler), there's no way that Hell could have froze over! :roll:
    No ****. It has been 'delerium' hot here, too.

    I can't wait for those two CDs! From the article, the "Marvin Gaye - I Want You: Deluxe Edition" and the Leon Ware "Musical Massage" also sound like must haves! Sorry I didn't give you that portion of the article but I got tired of typing.
    More than enough was shared. Thanks for the effort.

    Happy Pride, Nicky! How are you guys celebrating?
    Same to you! Bill and I will be at home as we've been for the past few years. The drive to NYC is just too damn long (about an hour-and-a-half one way), traffic's a bitch, parking's a bitch... you know all the excuses. We've had our share of wild pride days so we can afford to chill a little bit.

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    Hey, Nicky! I can't believe I actually made it to the Parade nice and early yesterday. It turned out perfect. See my other post later today for details - some magical moments!

    I forgot to tell you, the Thom Bell produced Johnny Mathis album, "I'm Coming Home," (with "Life Is A Song Worth Singing") has it's CD release tomorrow, July 1st. July is starting out to be a great month for great music! :D

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    I saw that Johnny Mathis CD yesterday...but they didn't add anything to it...so I passed (even though I'd like to have "Life Is a Song Worth Singing " on CD)

    Maybe next time????
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    Re: More details about Diana and Bad Girls - Deluxe Editions

    Quote Originally Written by keefelc
    the upcoming "Diana - Deluxe Edition" and "Bad Girls - Deluxe Edition," both scheduled for release on July 29th
    Wow, happy birthday to me!!! :P :P :P

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    Re: More details about Diana and Bad Girls - Deluxe Editions

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    the upcoming "Diana - Deluxe Edition" and "Bad Girls - Deluxe Edition," both scheduled for release on July 29th
    Wow, happy birthday to me!!! :P :P :P
    Let me be one of the first to wish you a fab birthday, Jeff!

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    Well, thanks, Keefe. I wasn't fishing for birthday greetings, but my birthday is July 30, so I'd say a deluxe re-release of Bad Girls is the perfect way to celebrate!
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    Diana - Deluxe Edition

    Wow! This 2 CD set is much better than I hoped! Wonderful packaging (it should be for the $30 price tag - although I heard Fry's Electronics has it on sale for about $18.00) with pictures of the boxes with the master tapes for the "Diana" album), along with some extensive liner notes. Who knew there were plans for Diana and Rick James to work together? Plus, who ever thought that Trip Ringwald (SF DJ and remixer) and Bill Motley (Moby Dick Records) names would ever be mentioned in a Diana Ross project???

    As for the music, I think that Motown did the right thing by having the Rodgers and Edwards sessions remixed by Russ Terrana for the commercial release of the "Diana" album. The tracks just seem so much brighter and clearer than the original Chic sessions. What do you think?

    I love Disc Two (Diana - Dance). Listening to this disc reminded me why I used to anxiously await a new album from Miss Ross! The remastering of the the alternate version of "Love Hangover" sounds SOOOO good, especially after years of listening to the tinny and distorted bootlegged copy. Plus, so many great cuts (twelve inch versions yet) from the pretty much overlooked "Ross" album. This disc proves the woman can make good music if she would let the pros (Ashford & Simpson, Richard Perry, Hal Davis) tell her what to do and not vice versa.

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    Ordered my copy yesterday. Really want to see what 'CHIC' had envisioned for her. Plus, the "newly corrected, augmented and ammended" :) version of "Love Hangover". YES!

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    I really really think you're going to be impressed with the set, Nicky! I had forgotten how much fun the twelve inch remixes of stuff like What You Gave Me and Your Love Is So Good For Me were. They also included "Top Of The World" from her Richard Perry produced album, "Baby, It's Me". I love that song - I only wish they found an extended version for this set.

    There's a brochure included with the Diana and Donna sets that show other titles in the Deluxe Edition series. Let's cross our fingers that, if sales do well for Diana and Donna, we'll see more of their catalog added to the series!

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    Quote Originally Written by keefelc
    I really really think you're going to be impressed with the set, Nicky! I had forgotten how much fun the twelve inch remixes of stuff like What You Gave Me and Your Love Is So Good For Me were.
    One of the reasons I fell in love with (Gregg Diamond's) Starcruiser's "This Side of Midnight" was the similarity in the chorus to Diana's "Your Love..."

    YOUR LOVE, MEANS SO MUCH TO ME
    vs.
    YOUR LOVE, IS SO GOOD FOR ME

    I was probably the only one that felt this way but it was enough to get me to play the hell out of that song. :D

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    Now I need to rush home from work so I can check out the comparison! Thanks for pointing out this song from Starcruiser - I admit I kind of overlooked that album.

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    Gotta tell ya, I'm loving Disc 2. Most of those album cuts escaped me first time around. Sounding pretty good right now. I smile when the "Supreme's Medley" comes up in the midst of all this stuff. Diana sounds like a little girl saying, BABY, BABY I'M AWARE OF WHERE YOU GO...

    "Love Hangover": Although they cleaned it up nicely, I'm still hearing a lot of flaws, especially with volume shifts. And even though it's longer than the Disconet version, I'm 99% sure it doesn't match the bootleg I have. Have to check tomorrow but I would swear the second break on my copy is longer, where as on the CD they just looped back to it and repeat everything again until the fade.

    Still, it's a great package with great liner notes. The last line where they thanked Bobby "DJ" Guttadaro, David Rodriguez, "Capt." Mike Wilkinson, Bill Motely and Trip Ringwald sort of choked me up. Finally... recognition.

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    Hey Nicky, glad to hear you received your copy and that you're enjoying it! I played Disc Two to death this past weekend.

    So, what'd you think of the original mixes of the "Diana" album???

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    Diana Re-issue


     

     

    I picked this up a couple of weeks ago. The Chic versions of the songs sounded like they had all the energy sucked out of them. The Motown versions of the songs - the drums are crisper (?) and more up front. Diana's vocals are pushed more up front too - the Chic versions had her pushed so far in the background you couldn't tell it was Diana.

    The second disk is why I bought the reissue anyway - love the extended versions "I Ain't Been Licked" is a new favorite - hadn't heard it in years. Also loved the Supremes medley - it was one of those quirky selections that we danced to alot whenever it was played on a Saturday night back in the late 70's. Perhaps it was the camp quotient. Although I must say the transition into "Baby Love" is kinda clunky sounding.

    I've got the old "love hangover" remix on a Disconet medley but the CD version sounds much better and is longer. This version is definately funkier sounding than the released version. I had heard a rumour for years that Diana was loaded to the t!ts when this take was recorded. She sounds kinda drunk on this cut.

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