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    Hey, Did You Hear That Democrats Won The Election?!

    It's lengthy but I gotta share this here. It really sums up how some of us feel!

    http://www.regressiveantidote.net/Articles/Hey,%20Did_You_Hear_That_Democrats_Won_The_Electio n.html


    Hey, Did You Hear That Democrats Won The Election?!
    By David Michael Green
    August 05, 2009


    That George Bush, man – what a monster, eh? I mean, could you even have imagined a president so destructive?

    It’s actually worse than you thought, though. Lately, there’s been a spate of fresh revelations about some of the incredibly disastrous policies that were executed by the Bush administration.

    Did you know, for instance, that they...


    • ...steered hundreds of billions of bail-out dollars to the very people who drove the country into the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, required nothing of these sharks in return, and did almost nothing for ordinary Americans struggling to survive this disaster?

      ...opposed congressional legislation limiting financial institution incentive pay packages that put the whole global economy at risk?

      ...opposed legislation allowing shareholders the right to have even a non-binding say on salaries, even though executives took home billions in bonuses last year while their companies were hemorrhaging money so badly they required a trillion bucks in taxpayer bail-out?

      ...actually threatened Britain, America’s closest ally in the world, with withdrawal of intelligence data that could prevent terrorist attacks unless the British government blocked one of its courts from accepting documented evidence of torture at Guantánamo?

      ...sent droves of Predator-launched missiles into Pakistan – supposedly one of America’s allies – killing groups of civilians, even at weddings, thus intensifying hatred toward the United States?

      ...tried to shut down a charity’s illegal-surveillance suit against the government on the basis of a supposed constitutionally-grounded state secrets privilege which would allow the president to kill any legal case before it is even heard?

      ...undertook a blitz of immigration enforcement without reform of civil rights violations so nasty that one professor of immigration law described the policies as “literally the worst of all worlds”?

      ...refused to set legally enforceable immigration detention rules covering such basics as health care and legal representation, instead relying on a flawed contractor-based monitoring system?

      ...pressured a member of Congress to withdraw an amendment that would have ended the military’s disastrous “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” regime, simply by defunding it?

      ...asked a federal court to dismiss a case in which the plaintiffs challenged the discriminatory Defense of Marriage Act, arguing to the court that heterosexual marriage is “the traditional, and universally recognized, version of marriage”?

      ...dramatically increased the influence of religion in government, directly violating the First Amendment, by lavishly spending federal dollars on “faith-based’ programs, and giving religious groups massively increased power and access within the White House to shape policy questions?

      ...stood by silently, allowing climate legislation to be watered down to nothing, to include generous pollution allowances to coal utilities, and to undermine the EPA’s authority to control carbon emissions?

      ...backed healthcare legislation that did little for the public and actually increased wasteful federal expenditures, while continuing to enrich insurance, medical, hospital and pharmaceutical corporation vampires?

      ...and lots and lots more.
    Can you believe it? Can you imagine anything as absolutely evil as the Bush administration? Can you believe the stunts they pulled?

    Well, try this on for size: Every item above actually reflects the actions of the Obama administration in just its first six months – not George Bush! (Although, of course, Bush did a lot of these things too, and would have likely done them all, given the chance.)

    That’s right, that’s right. Yep. This is the record of the guy liberals scrambled to put into office, the guy who promised big-time change, and the guy whom foaming-at-the-mouth regressives run around screaming is a socialist ruining America.

    I don’t know about you, but I think maybe all those government officials and media reporters who say Democrats won the last election (actually, the last two of them) have just been having a great big ol’ laugh at our expense! Whataya think? This is change from the last eight years?? This is the party that opposed the horrors of the Bush administration and the Republican Congress?? This is out-of-control liberalism?

    And let’s not even talk about the things they aren’t doing...


    • ...Real change in Middle East policy? Haven’t seen it.

      ...Remotely serious response to the existential threat of global warming? Nope – might offend somebody.

      ...Single-payer healthcare system, to provide the only cost-effective and fair solution for universal coverage? Wasn’t mentioned by Harry in the commercial. Or Louise.

      ...Serious cuts to annual defense spending now equal to twice what every other country in the world spends, combined? Nein, dummkopf. The Pentagon’s budget is rising – you know, in order to protect America from its big bad enemy, the, uh..., the, um, what’s-their-names again...?

      ...Full-court press to curb hugely expanding wealth disparities and protect the economy from Wall Street predators? Hell, nowadays those clowns have their offices right in the West Wing. In fact, now it’s called the Goldman Sachs Wing.
    Look, I’ll be honest. I supported (sorta) Obama and I voted for him. But I did so with open eyes. I knew he could be a progressive once installed in the Oval Office, but that he might well also be a Clinton-like hack for the money boys and a complete coward in standing up to the insane right that is gobbling up America on a steady diet of hate and paranoia.

    In other words, I’m not shocked that he’s not FDR. But why is this guy carrying water for George Bush, covering up his worst crimes? Why are his civil liberties positions so bad that one attorney described them as “the good old Bush-Cheney inherent presidential power theory” all over again? Why is he working so hard to make sure Wall Street sucks every drop of blood it possibly can out of the pale-white corpse of the American middle class, even while it ruins the global economy in yet another get-rich scam, then turns to the government for a bail-out when it all comes a cropper, all the while – and without a hint of irony – still loudly singing its effusive praises of Ayn Rand? Why is it this guy can’t simply stand aside and let Congress defund Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, a program even the military now wants to jettison? Why does he go to court arguing on behalf of homophobic repression? What in the world is this dude going to tell his children when their country is broke and broken, and their planet parched and dying? “I was just one person. What could I do?”

    I guess Democrat is the new Republican nowadays.

    Sure, the pathetically feeble Dems are less likely to launch big wars based on lies (at least since LBJ left the White House), and that’s nothing to sneeze at. (Maybe Obama will even end Bush’s debacle in Iraq, like he said he would. Maybe. I take nothing on faith with this guy, that’s for sure.)

    And, yeah, Democrats will move slightly faster in the quest to do nothing and to get nowhere when it comes to protecting the environment, civil rights or civil liberties. Woo-hoo.

    Otherwise, I’m having a hard time seeing the difference. Bill Clinton (he of WTO, NAFTA, welfare reform and Telecommunications Bill fame) was the best friend Wall Street could ever have imagined, and they still tried to ride him out on a rail. Now Obama’s got the same Goldman Sachs retreads in there ripping us off again, even as the ship is still going down from the last round.

    So Democrats won the last election, huh?

    Coulda fooled me. But here’s the bigger question:

    What for?
    Find them and destroy them!

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    You know when Arnold stepped up to the plate here in California to get things done , I really held out hope that it was possible for someone, an outsider like him, to ride in on a white horse and change things.
    More importantly , I think Arnold himself believed that.

    I don't think he ever dreamed things would wind up as they are now (even worse !).

    I see the same thing happening to Barrack .

    The political machinery is bigger than the man .



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    Re: Hey, Did You Hear That Democrats Won The Election?!

    I haven't totally given up--but I'm close. :icon_eek:

    The combination of CORPORATE MEDIA CONTROL + MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX NEED + WALL STREET GREED + LOBBYISTS WITH UNLIMITED RESERVES OF CASH FIGHTING AGAINST ANY POSITIVE CHANGE is killing my hope that things might actually change for the better within my lifetime. :icon_eek:

    Add in the decades of daily drumbeat of negativity from right wing hate-mongers who turn anything positive into a negative. [example: rescuing the 2 female reporters from North Korea weakened us say idiots like John Bolton & Dick "toe-sucker" Morris...Can you imagine how different the spin would have been if Bush were still in charge? Buy a bigger codpiece for the photo op!] :icon_twisted:

    Add in the basic ignorance of the folks who listen to hate-talk radio on a daily basis, vote against their own best interests, hate "socialized medicine" yet are too stupid to know their medicare is SOCIALIZED MEDICINE"!!!-- and I think we are doomed. :icon_evil:

    If I could, I'd move to Canada or Europe where people seem to have some common sense left. :icon_confused:
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    Re: Hey, Did You Hear That Democrats Won The Election?!

    Well, I'm just at the point where I am thinking this experiment in self-rule and democracy is done. The whole system has been corrupted, from the presidency right down to local offices.
    I might consider the Jesse Ventura option. Unplug from the system here and spend half my time somewhere else. In Ventura's case it's the west coast of Mexico.:icon_cool:
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    Two points:

    I learned what you are now just learning during my time in the anti-war movement of the late '60s. Tear gas is quite the educational experience.

    The democrats were useless then and we see that they are still useless.
    The dems are too easily distracted by their fascist liberal ideology and have lost interest in the working people of America.

    We need "The Loyal Opposition" and we don't have one.

    I voted for Ralph Nader for any number of reasons and I may never vote for Prez again. As average citizens we are caught between the Corporations and the ring wing fascists or we are caught between the Corporations and the left wing fascists. The USG could care less about the voice of the people.

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    I'm glad there's some pushing back by the people at these congressmen's back home meetings concerning health care. 'Bout time ! The people are entitled to ask questions and to voice their concerns !

    These MFSB public servants need a jolting reminder to put their noses to the grindstone , take their work more seriously ( like read the legislations for basic starters ) and be strongly reminded
    that always they are accountable to US !!!!



    I wish the hostile outcry had happened over the Financial Greed bail-out instead .... but they purposely rushed that thru so fast there wasn't time to react....



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    Re: Hey, Did You Hear That Democrats Won The Election?!

    I watched Michael Moore's "Sicko" this weekend and loved the way a French lady explained why they have universal insurance even though she works for an American company--General Electric--in France.

    Paraphrasing....

    "It's a French law. The French government is afraid of the people. In America, the people are afraid of the government."

    I think that's a basic truth we in America can't seem to conceive. In Europe, if the citizens don't get what they want they take to the streets and shut the whole damn country down.

    In America we play video games, watch "American Idol" and write blogs. Yeah, the government is really afraid of us. :icon_eek::icon_evil::icon_exclaim:
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    Re: Hey, Did You Hear That Democrats Won The Election?!

    Quote Originally Written by markydefad View Post

    In America we play video games, watch "American Idol" and write blogs. Yeah, the government is really afraid of us. :icon_eek::icon_evil::icon_exclaim:
    You left out forever salivating in heightened anticipation for the next (((BIG))) movie {or its umpteenth sequel} based on a comic book .... or some other writings intended for children. :icon_twisted:


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    Re: Hey, Did You Hear That Democrats Won The Election?!

    What pains me is I hear some liberals repeating stuff that is based on lies. I know the stuff they repeat comes from the mainstream media, but these are the same liberals who seemed a little more sophisticated in this regard when bush and company ran the government just a few months back.

    PS, I'm not speaking of liberals here
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    Re: Hey, Did You Hear That Democrats Won The Election?!

    Read Camille Paglia's column today in Salon.com. Brilliant analysis of this issue. BTW, Camille is and has been my favorite columnist for many years.
    Occasionaly I disagree with her pos. on an issue but generally not.

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    Re: Hey, Did You Hear That Democrats Won The Election?!

    Quote Originally Written by DiscoMan View Post
    Read Camille Paglia's column today in Salon.com. Brilliant analysis of this issue. BTW, Camille is and has been my favorite columnist for many years.
    Occasionaly I disagree with her pos. on an issue but generally not.
    I've lost track of Camille but always found her to be thought provoking, generally well grounded.....

    couldn't find that article at Salon.com --- (((link please !!! ))))---



    but did find this:icon_cool:::

    Camille Paglia's disco playlist

    A history in songs: From soul and funk to disco, 1960s-'80s.


    Dec 2, 2005 |


    James Brown:
    "Super Bad," "Make It Funky," "Get Up (Like a Sex Machine)," "Licking Stick"
    Sly & the Family Stone: "Dance to the Music," "I Want to Take You Higher"
    Isaac Hayes: "Shaft"
    Curtis Mayfield: "Move on Up," "Superfly," "Freddie's Dead"
    The Undisputed Truth: "Ball of Confusion," "Higher Than High"
    Eddie Kendricks: "Goin' up in Smoke," "Keep on Truckin'"
    Gloria Gaynor: "Never Can Say Goodbye"
    Silver Convention: "Fly Robin Fly"
    Pierre Bachelet: soundtrack from "Histoire D'O (Story of O)"
    ABBA: "SOS," "Knowing Me, Knowing You," "Voulez-Vous," "Fernando"
    Diana Ross: "Love Hangover"
    The Trammps: "Disco Inferno," "I Feel Like I've Been Living (on the Dark Side of the Moon)"
    Marvin Gaye: "Got to Give It Up"
    The Isley Brothers: "Go for Your Guns"
    Sylvester: "Stars," "Body Strong," "You Make Me Feel Mighty Real," "Do Ya Wanna Funk"
    Donna Summer and Giorgio Moroder: "Four Seasons of Love" (four-part album)
    Donna Summer and Giorgio Moroder: "Now I Need You," "Working the Midnight Shift," "Queen for a Day," "Rumour Has It," from the album "Once Upon a Time"
    Donna Summer and Giorgio Moroder: "Hot Stuff," "Bad Girls," "Walk Away," "Lucky," "Sunset People," from the album "Bad Girls."
    Irene Cara and Giorgio Moroder: "Cue Me Up," "Flashdance (What a Feeling)"
    Giorgio Moroder: soundtrack from "Midnight Express"
    Yvonne Elliman: "If I Can't Have You"
    Bee Gees: "Stayin' Alive," "Night Fever," "You Should be Dancing"
    Evelyn "Champagne" King: "Shame"
    Saint Tropez: "Violation"
    Cerrone: "Je Suis Music," "Supernature"
    Vicky Sue Robinson: "Turn the Beat Around"
    The Michael Zager Band: "Let's All Chant"
    Karen Young: "Hot Shot"
    Cheryl Lynn: "Star Love"
    Pattie Brooks: "After Dark"
    Rick James: "You and I," "Super Freak," "Give It to Me, Baby"
    Teena Marie and Rick James: "Behind the Groove," "Lover Girl"
    Ashford and Simpson: "Found a Cure," "Don't Cost you Nothing'"
    Jackie Moore: "This Time, Baby"
    Machine: "There But for the Grace of God"
    Gino Soccio: "Love Is," "S-Beat"
    Jackson Five: "Can You Feel It?"
    Michael Jackson: "Billie Jean," "Don't Stop Til You Get Enough," "Rock With You," "Shake Your Body"
    Olivia Newton-John: "Physical"
    Grace Jones: "Pull Up to the Bumper," "Demolition Man," "Slave to the Rhythm"
    The Gap Band: "You Dropped a Bomb on Me"
    Slave: "Slide"
    Aretha Franklin and Luther Vandross: "Jump to It"
    Prince: "Delirious," "1999," "Let's Go Crazy," "U Got the Look"
    Lime: "Angel Eyes"
    Chaka Khan: "Ain't Nobody"
    Stephanie Mills: "Pilot Error"
    C-Bank: "One More Shot"
    Up Fron: "Infatuation"
    Madonna: "Burnin' Up," "Into the Groove," "Lucky Star," "Dress You Up," "Open Your Heart," "Causing a Commotion," "Who's That Girl," "La Isla Bonita," "Vogue," "Deeper and Deeper"
    Evelyn Thomas: "High Energy"
    Laura Branigan: "Self-Control"
    Pamala Stanley: "Coming out of Hiding"
    Bronski Beat: "Smalltown Boy"
    Bananarama: "Cruel Summer"
    Alisha: "All Night Passion," "Into My Secret"
    Patti Austin: "Gettin' Away With Murder"
    E.G. Daily: "Love in the Shadows" (45 RPM Special Remix), "Mind Over Matter"
    Dead or Alive with Pete Best: "You Spin Me Round"
    Taste-T-Lips: "Hypnotize"
    Inner City: "Good Life"
    Adele Bertei and Jellybean Benitez: "Just a Mirage"
    Pretty Poison with Jade Starling: "Nightime" (original cut)
    Jody Watley: "Don't You Want Me"
    Real Life: "Send Me an Angel"



    from salon.com

    Camille Paglia's disco playlist - Salon.com
    Like to see Ann Coulter come up with anything CLOSE to this !!!!
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    Re: Hey, Did You Hear That Democrats Won The Election?!

    No Chic? :icon_eek:
    Anyway, here's the link remicks.

    Obama's healthcare horror | Salon
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    no ......Barry White !!!! No KC .........no Janet ... Jackson if you please ....... no .......El Coco!!!




    thank you for the link Paul!!

    here's an excerpt from it :

    I just don't get it. Why the insane rush to pass a bill, any bill, in three weeks? And why such an abject failure by the Obama administration to present the issues to the public in a rational, detailed, informational way? The U.S. is gigantic; many of our states are bigger than whole European nations. The bureaucracy required to institute and manage a nationalized health system here would be Byzantine beyond belief and would vampirically absorb whatever savings Obama thinks could be made. And the transition period would be a nightmare of red tape and mammoth screw-ups, which we can ill afford with a faltering economy.
    As with the massive boondoggle of the stimulus package, which Obama foolishly let Congress turn into a pork rut, too much has been attempted all at once; focused, targeted initiatives would, instead, have won wide public support. How is it possible that Democrats, through their own clumsiness and arrogance, have sabotaged healthcare reform yet again? Blaming obstructionist Republicans is nonsensical, because Democrats control the White House and both Houses of Congress.


    http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2009/08/12/town_halls/index.html

    I agree with it



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    No ..... Salsoul Orch. ?? ...... John Davis ?? Kool & The Gang ??


    and what's this doing on there?????

    :icon_confused::icon_confused:
    Pierre Bachelet: soundtrack from "Histoire D'O (Story of O)"
    just showing off?? :icon_confused:
    A personal friend?? :icon_confused:

    :icon_question::icon_question::icon_question:


    Oh, - Jussi !!!!!


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    Aha, but you are not Europalians, otherwise you would know that this was played on every Europalian dancefloor BITD (during the slow time)!

    But Disco? Non è vero Camilla!


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