Did The Salsoul Orchestra Turn CHARO Onto Disco??

[remicks]

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Nope !!






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[kdavid13]

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Nope !!






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Wow - Now I imagine Charo,circa 1976 (pre-Love Boat y'all !!! ),stuck in a NJ studio,working on a 2:40 disco ditty !!!

I see that a French 12in was issued on Pathe Marconi - with Walter Murphy & the Big Apple Band's A fifth of Beethoven (at 3'02) on the flip.

The question is - How does it sound ????

[drlove]

. . .and I love the fact she (or a producer) decided to "disco-tize" a tune co-written by her ex-husband (well, they didn't formally divorce until '78).

[markydefad]

Oh please, Miss Charo, known for her incomprehensible English language skills, for her TV talk show appearances where she interspersed "cuchi-cuchi" between every other word, and her voluptuous bod-- was desperate for any chance to get a "hit" record--to extend her longevity as an entertainer. She would have recorded a polka--if that would have sold a copy or two. :icon_twisted:

Charo should be filed under "entertainers who went "disco" in desperate need of career resuscitation." I always frowned on the Salsoul Orchestra for working with the likes of Charo--what Pia Zadora was unavailable???? It cheapened the Salsoul sound, IMHO!

Merv Griffin would spend an entire segment having the zany Charo attempt to pronounce Massachusetts. "Mach A Chu Chay" she would repeat. Oh it was hilarious. :icon_eek::icon_confused:

[remicks]

Merv Griffin would spend an entire segment having the zany Charo attempt to pronounce Massachusetts. "Mach A Chu Chay" she would repeat. Oh it was hilarious. :icon_eek::icon_confused:

She did that on Merv Griffin too???

I saw it on Johnny Carson and you've sort of weakened the punch line ...or maybe by then she'd refined it .
Her resulting enunciation when casually mentioning Massachusetts came out as Mass-a chu-shits to which the entire audience naughtily giggled

--- to which Charo then sat upright at the edge of her chair, leaned her buxomness out toward the audience, stared at them bewilderedly bug-eyed and asked ,
"Wha? ..I say something funny ?" :icon_mrgreen::icon_mrgreen::icon_mrgreen:........ ......:icon_lol:


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[markydefad]

Ah yes, maybe that was the joke. Ma Chay Chu Shits.

or was it Ma Chay 2 Shits ????

[Disco Funk]

I wonder if this also turned Charo onto Disco



"If CHEE can do it, so can I!" :)

By the way, I don't think the picture is of the Liz Torres on the record, but of another one who did records in the 80s. This Liz Torres sounds older and I think she was some TV personality.

Disco Funk

[markydefad]

There was a Liz Torres who charted briefly with "Hurt" in 1976--I always assumed she was the Puerto Rican actress who appeared on "All In The Family." She's still around--larger than before--having had a recurring role on "The Gilmore Girls." But that's not her in the photo.

Liz Torres (I)

Mini Biography

Spunky actress, singer and comedienne all rolled up into one, Puerto Rican-American Liz Torres was born in 1947, a native of the Bronx. She began her standup/singing career as a regular performing in various small NYC niteries. It wasn't until she received an invite on "The Tonight Show" that her comic career started blooming on TV and in film.

Larger in life and girth over the years, Liz has been a broadly familiar ethnic face on the sitcom circuit, having had regular or recurring parts in numerous series. In addition to regular roles on 70s TV variety shows for Melba Moore, Clifton Davis and Ben Vereen, she replaced the late Barbara Colby in the Mary Tyler Moore spinoff "Phyllis" (1975) starring Cloris Leachman following Colby's tragic murder. A year later she joined the "All in the Family" (1971) cast for a season. Liz co-starred in a number of short-lived series such as "Checking In" (1981), "The New Odd Couple" (1982) and "City" (1990) before hitting pay dirt and scoring multiple Emmy and Golden Globe nominations for her prime role of Mahalia on "The John Larroquette Show" (1993). She has continued to make the guest rounds on such popular series as "Ally McBeal," "The Nanny, "Quantum Leap," "The Wonder Years" and "L.A. Law," often providing some necessary comedy relief amid the drama and is a veteran of many mini-movies, both comedic and dramatic.

On Broadway, Torres replaced Tony-winning Rita Moreno as men's bathhouse entertainer Googie Gomez in the wacky comedy "The Ritz" and portrayed the bizarre character of Bunny in "House of Blue Leaves." The musical part of her has recorded for RCA and appeared in a number of stage roles that have ranged from Aldonza/Dulcinea in "Man of La Mancha" to lightweight roles in "Bye Bye Birdie" and "See Saw."

She has provided amusing vignettes in such film comedies as The Odd Couple II (1998) starring the late Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau, Sunset (1988) with Bruce Willis and Permanent Midnight (1998) showcasing Ben Stiller. She currently resides in Los Angeles, Calif.
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There was a 2nd Liz Torres who had Eighties "freestyle" hits. Maybe that's her in the photo? :icon_question::icon_confused::icon_question:

[Disco Funk]

I'm not sure if the actress from All In The Family and the singer on the record are the same person, unless she was putting on an accent. Here she is in '97



"Hurt" was a great track. It was on the flip side of the short version of "Hustle Latino". I managed to find the long version of HL on another 45. Both were produced by Michael Zager.

Disco Funk

[remicks]

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Charo's first disco outing did not make it to the charts .

Liz's from that same year did:

The 1976 Disco Compilation Consensus Top 577: #501-577


511) DEEP, DARK, DELICIOUS NIGHT - D.C. LaRue (Pyramid) (3 points)
512) DISCO HOP - 3rd World Band (Abraxas) (3 points)
513) EVERYBODY'S GOTTA DO SOMETHING - The Originals (Motown) (3 points)
514) FANTASY - Cilla Black (Private Stock) (3 points)
515) FEEL THE NEED IN ME - Genya Ravan (De-lite) (3 points)
516) GIMME WHAT YOU GOT - Le Pamplemousse (AVI) (3 points)
517) HURT - Liz Torres (RCA) (3 points)
518) I NEED IT - Johnny "Guitar" Watson (DJM) (3 points)
519) I WANNA BE WITH YOU - Doc Severinsen (Epic) (3 points)
520) I'M MAD - Pleasure (Fantasy) (3 points)

markydefad

THE DISCO COMPILATION CONSENSUS TOP 50 + 7

Chart #71 (volume 2: #9 ): February 28, 1976

dropped off:

HURT – Liz Torres (was #52/ 1 week on the chart)

markydefad

Disco Funk:

"Hurt" was a great track. It was on the flip side of the short version of "Hustle Latino". I managed to find the long version of HL on another 45. Both were produced by Michael Zager.

Disco Funk

nice additional info .....produced by Michael Zager . I will find this one day !!

[markydefad]

Is it the Timi Yuro "Hurt"???---big belting ballad in the early Sixties??? Carly Simon covered it on her "Torch" LP???

I've always wanted to know if it was a cover of that or another song with the same title???? :icon_confused::icon_question::icon_eek:

[songwriters: Jimmie Crane/Al Jacobs]

[JussiK]

Wow - Now I imagine Charo,circa 1976 (pre-Love Boat y'all !!! ),stuck in a NJ studio,working on a 2:40 disco ditty !!!

I see that a French 12in was issued on Pathe Marconi - with Walter Murphy & the Big Apple Band's A fifth of Beethoven (at 3'02) on the flip.

The question is - How does it sound ????

The c 104 bpm record is a fab sunbaked blend of tapas bar pop, lounge and disco, crafted with the golden period Salsoul Ork sound, the Sweethearts of Sigma doing the backups, a very catchy melody and gourmet queso by the Estrella Herself. It's short but it does the job.

[Disco Funk]

I'll do even better. It was uploaded to youtube



The intro sounds more like funk than disco. It's a slower bpm dance song compared to the stuff she did with Salsoul.

Disco Funk

[kdavid13]

Hmmm not as bad as I anticipated !!!


p.s. Love the wah wah porn guitar !!! :icon_twisted:

[Disco Funk]

Thank you for pointing me to this record, Remicks! I decided to check out the 45. The A side I already posted from youtube, but the B Side I couldn't find anywhere to listen to. But now that I have it, it's a great track called 'Flamenco Salsa'. It's also a Tony Camillo production, so it's got a nice mid-tempo funky feel like on his Bazuka ("Dynomite") project.

Disco Funk

[remicks]

Thank you for pointing me to this record, Remicks! I decided to check out the 45. The A side I already posted from youtube, but the B Side I couldn't find anywhere to listen to. But now that I have it, it's a great track called 'Flamenco Salsa'. It's also a Tony Camillo production, so it's got a nice mid-tempo funky feel like on his Bazuka ("Dynomite") project.

Disco Funk

OK so now my A side only 45 isn't enough :icon_razz: .....gotta get the one with the FLAMENCO SALSA song on it too .:icon_razz::icon_razz: How's Charo on it??
I suspect for her performance on LA SALSA that she just overdubbed onto what was already a completely finished track ( are her vocals even sort of too loud/ distorted?) ... and I would've been delighted if the B side were an instrumental sans her...

I love Jussi's description :

jussik:
The c 104 bpm record is a fab sunbaked blend of tapas bar pop, lounge and disco, crafted with the golden period Salsoul Ork sound, the Sweethearts of Sigma doing the backups, a very catchy [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]melody[/COLOR][/COLOR]
and gourmet queso by the Estrella Herself. It's short but it does the job.

but I am wondering if he is correct that there is involvement on it by the Salsoul Orch or the Sweethearts of Sigma ?????????
Vocallly it does sound like them ..... very nice indeed.


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[Disco Funk]

I don't know where Tony Camillo was based, but it definitely wasn't in Philadelphia. It doesn't sound like the Sigma Sweethearts to my ears. The vocals are definitely more raucous sounding on the A side, but on Flamenco Salsa, they're not so in-your-face. More laid-back and sultry. You'd think the song title would mean she'd play a little of her guitar, but there's none of that on this track.

It's kind of a shame she didn't do a whole LP with Camillo. I think he could have put together some nice grooves with her. Mind you, her voice sounds campy no matter who's backing her up on rhythm. :)

Disco Funk

[JussiK]

Sweethearts or not? Maybe we should ask the man himself? He seems to be at
Tony Camillo

[remicks]

There was a Liz Torres who charted briefly with "Hurt" in 1976--I always assumed she was the Puerto Rican actress who appeared on "All In The Family." She's still around--larger than before--having had a recurring role on "The Gilmore Girls." But that's not her in the photo.

Liz Torres (I)

Mini Biography

Spunky actress, singer and comedienne all rolled up into one, Puerto Rican-American Liz Torres was born in 1947, a native of the Bronx. She began her standup/singing career as a regular performing in various small NYC niteries. It wasn't until she received an invite on "The Tonight Show" that her comic career started blooming on TV and in film.

Larger in life and girth over the years, Liz has been a broadly familiar ethnic face on the sitcom circuit, having had regular or recurring parts in numerous series. In addition to regular roles on 70s TV variety shows for Melba Moore, Clifton Davis and Ben Vereen, she replaced the late Barbara Colby in the Mary Tyler Moore spinoff "Phyllis" (1975) starring Cloris Leachman following Colby's tragic murder. A year later she joined the "All in the Family" (1971) cast for a season. Liz co-starred in a number of short-lived series such as "Checking In" (1981), "The New Odd Couple" (1982) and "City" (1990) before hitting pay dirt and scoring multiple Emmy and Golden Globe nominations for her prime role of Mahalia on "The John Larroquette Show" (1993). She has continued to make the guest rounds on such popular series as "Ally McBeal," "The Nanny, "Quantum Leap," "The Wonder Years" and "L.A. Law," often providing some necessary comedy relief amid the drama and is a veteran of many mini-movies, both comedic and dramatic.

On Broadway, Torres replaced Tony-winning Rita Moreno as men's bathhouse entertainer Googie Gomez in the wacky comedy "The Ritz" and portrayed the bizarre character of Bunny in "House of Blue Leaves." The musical part of her has recorded for RCA and appeared in a number of stage roles that have ranged from Aldonza/Dulcinea in "Man of La Mancha" to lightweight roles in "Bye Bye Birdie" and "See Saw."

She has provided amusing vignettes in such film comedies as The Odd Couple II (1998) starring the late Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau, Sunset (1988) with Bruce Willis and Permanent Midnight (1998) showcasing Ben Stiller. She currently resides in Los Angeles, Calif.
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There was a 2nd Liz Torres who had Eighties "freestyle" hits. Maybe that's her in the photo? :icon_question::icon_confused::icon_question:

here it is:



passive disco.

before Gloria learned to survive and Donna and Barbra decided enough is enough .....



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