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    «*Sweat » album re-issued (The System)

    Excellent re-issue by Funky Town Grooves records (even without "Tú estás en mi sistema" in Spanish) with a 12" remix and five more tracks from the 80's (but without "Coming to America").

    System Sweat (CD) Disco Music.com

    A question: is the song "Sweat" really 7:46 long on the 12" (promo DMD 624) or it's a misprint and the 12" version is actually the 7:16 lp version?

    CD tracklisting with timings:

    1. Sweat 7:16
    2. You Are In My System 5:56
    3. It's Passion 7:34
    4. Stand Up And Cheer 5:48
    5. I Won't Let Go 5:29
    6. Go For What U Know 5:40
    7. Now I Am Electric 4:10
    Original vinyl lp Mirage Catalog#: 90062-1 (US, 1983)

    8. You Are In My System (Extended Vocal) 7:46
    9. Promises Can Break (Long Version) 6:01
    10. I Wanna Make You Feel Good (Long Version) 6:49
    11. This Is For You (Vocal Long Version) 5:58
    12. Don't Disturb This Groove (Vocal Remix) 5:26
    13. Midnight Special (Extended Remix) 5:13

    Taken from the 12 inch singles (versions on the cd in red):

    It's Passion Mirage Catalog#: DM 4837 Vinyl, 12" US 1982
    A It's Passion (Vocal) (7:30)
    B It's Passion (Instrumental) (8:30)

    You Are In My System Mirage Catalog#: 0-99938 Vinyl, 12" US 1982
    A You Are In My System (Vocal) (7:43)
    B Now I Am Electric (Vocal) (4:06)

    Tú estás en mi sistema Atlantic Catalog#: DMD 623 Vinyl, 12", Promo US 1983
    A Tú estás en mi sistema (You Are In My System) (6:03)
    B1 Tú estás en mi sistema (You Are In My System) (Bilingual Dub Version) (5:27)
    B2 Tú estás en mi sistema (You Are In My System) (A Capella Version) (3:35)

    Sweat / You Are In My System Mirage Catalog#: DMD 624 Vinyl, 12", Promo US 1983
    A Sweat (7:46)
    B1 You Are In My System (Bilingual Dub Version) (5:27)
    B2 You Are In My System (A Capella Version) (2:53)

    Promises Can Break/I Wanna Make You Feel Good Mirage Catalog#: 0-96939 Vinyl, 12" US 1984
    Both songs written-by David Frank , Mic Murphy, Paul Pesco
    A Promises Can Break (Vocal) (6:02)
    B I Wanna Make You Feel Good (Vocal) (6:49)

    This Is For You Mirage Catalog#: DMD 888 Vinyl, 12", Promo US 1985
    Mixed By, Engineer - Tom Lord-Alge
    A This Is For You (Vocal / Long Version) (6:02)
    B1 This Is For You (Dub Version) (6:00)
    B2 This Is For You (Vocal / Short Version) (4:14)

    Don't Disturb This Groove Atlantic Catalog#: DMD 1007 Vinyl, 12", Promo US 1987
    Remixed from Atlantic LP 81961 "Don't Disturb This Groove"
    Mixed by Tom Lord-Alge at Blue Jay Studios, NYC
    Recorded by Jimmy Douglass at Atlantic Studios, NYC
    A Don't Disturb This Groove (Vocal/Extended Remix) (5:32)
    B1 Don't Disturb This Groove (Dub Version) (4:25)
    B2 Don't Disturb This Groove (Groove Remix) (5:20)
    B3 Don't Disturb This Groove (Edit Of Remix) (3:45)

    Coming To America ATCO Records Catalog#: 796 650-1 Vinyl, 12", 45 RPM US 1988
    Co-produced by Nile Rodgers
    A1 & B1 mixed by Michael Hutchinson
    A1 Coming To America (Independence Mix) 5:45
    B1 Coming To America (Dub Mix) 4:33
    B2 Coming To America (Part Two) 3:33

    Midnight Special Atlantic Catalog#: 0-86418 Vinyl, 12" US 1989
    A1 Midnight Special (Extended Re-edit) (4:41)
    A2 Midnight Special (Instrumental) (4:24)
    B1 Midnight Special (12" Dub I Mix) (5:35)
    B2 Midnight Special (12" Dub II Mix) (4:35)
    B3 Why You Wanna Hurt Me ? (Unavailable On LP) (4:35)

    Midnight Special Atlantic Catalog#: DMD 1328 Vinyl, 12", Promo US 1989
    Mixed By - Keith Cohen
    A1 Midnight Special (Radio Version) (4:41)
    A2 Midnight Special (Extended Re-Edit Version) (4:24)
    B1 Midnight Special (Extended Version) (5:10)
    B2 Midnight Special (Dub Mix) (5:35)
    B3 Midnight Special (Instrumental) (4:24)


    US charted singles
    1982 It's Passion Club Play Singles 23
    1983 You Are In My System Black Singles 10
    1983 You Are In My System Club Play Singles 14
    1983 You Are In My System Pop Singles 64
    1985 This Is for You Hot Dance Music/Club Play 43
    1985 This Is for You Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks 8
    1985 The Pleasure Seekers Hot Dance Music/Club Play 22
    1985 The Pleasure Seekers Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks 21
    1987 Don't Disturb This Groove Hot Dance Music/Maxi-Singles Sales 13
    1987 Don't Disturb This Groove Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks 1
    1987 Don't Disturb This Groove The Billboard Hot 100 4
    1987 Nighttime Lover Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks 7
    1988 Coming to America Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks 23
    1988 Coming to America The Billboard Hot 100 91

    US charted albums
    1983 Sweat Black Albums 14
    1983 Sweat Pop Albums 94
    1984 X-Periment The Billboard 200 182
    1985 Pleasure Seekers Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums 40
    1987 Don't Disturb This Groove The Billboard 200 62
    1987 Don't Disturb This Groove Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums 13
    1989 Rhythm & Romance Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums 85
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    Re: «*Sweat » album re-issued (The System)

    You asked: "A question: is the song "Sweat" really 7:46 long on the 12" (promo DMD 624) or it's a misprint and the 12" version is actually the 7:16 lp version?"


    Yes it is longer. Not a different mix, just a longer fade-out.
    Thank you for the kind words about the CD.

    For anyone interested in buying this SYSTEM- SWEAT CD, but hearing the songs first- please visit our website at Funky Town Grooves | Rare 80s Soul, Funk, Jazz & Hip Hop ?

    Also, if you are fans of THE SYSTEM, please check out the ATTITUDE- PUMP THE NATION CD. It is a production "prequel" to the SYSTEM- SWEAT album. David Frank & Mic Murphy honed the sounds and ideas they would eventually use on themselves on this CD. Mic Murphy's vocals are all over the tracks. Funky Town Grooves | Attitude - Pump The Nation

    (Question about the Spanish Version of "You are in my System" which do you prefer? The full-on Spanish Language Version or the Bilingual Version?)

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    Re: «*Sweat » album re-issued (The System)

    Quote Originally Written by DonaldCleveland View Post
    You asked: "A question: is the song "Sweat" really 7:46 long on the 12" (promo DMD 624) or it's a misprint and the 12" version is actually the 7:16 lp version?"


    Yes it is longer. Not a different mix, just a longer fade-out.
    Thank you for the kind words about the CD.

    (Question about the Spanish Version of "You are in my System" which do you prefer? The full-on Spanish Language Version or the Bilingual Version?)
    Thanks for the answer.
    I prefer the full Spanish version but anyway the best version is the English one, more natural of course. Those Spanish versions by non-Spanish speaking singers (I remember versions by Gloria Gaynor, France Joli, Michael Jackson, Jermaine Jackson) are actually just a curiousity.

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    Hey Donald
    Whereas the label Funky town grooves must be commended on their excellent choice of reissue titles it has to be said the mastering (Obviously from vinyl sources) leaves a lot to be desired and at times is pretty awful. I would love to purchase the Attitude cd and forthcoming Mirage compilation but am a little bit wary after being disappointed too often with their releases.

    Quote Originally Written by DonaldCleveland View Post
    You asked: "A question: is the song "Sweat" really 7:46 long on the 12" (promo DMD 624) or it's a misprint and the 12" version is actually the 7:16 lp version?"


    Yes it is longer. Not a different mix, just a longer fade-out.
    Thank you for the kind words about the CD.

    For anyone interested in buying this SYSTEM- SWEAT CD, but hearing the songs first- please visit our website at Funky Town Grooves | Rare 80s Soul, Funk, Jazz & Hip Hop ?

    Also, if you are fans of THE SYSTEM, please check out the ATTITUDE- PUMP THE NATION CD. It is a production "prequel" to the SYSTEM- SWEAT album. David Frank & Mic Murphy honed the sounds and ideas they would eventually use on themselves on this CD. Mic Murphy's vocals are all over the tracks. Funky Town Grooves | Attitude - Pump The Nation

    (Question about the Spanish Version of "You are in my System" which do you prefer? The full-on Spanish Language Version or the Bilingual Version?)

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    Re: «*Sweat » album re-issued (The System)

    There were some titles that had to be transferred from vinyl, absolutely. I'm loathe to try and defend quality control that happened BEFORE I came to join the company- but things have gotten noticeably more consistent and better. As an example of "better" we have had John Morales (a name a fair amount of disco fans may be aware of) master a couple of our titles (T.S. MONK) and the upcoming Nile Rodgers & Mirage comp.

    Having worked for several labels in the past: Universal, Razor & Tie, Rhino and Buddah, I can tell you we have had to go to vinyl at some point on a relatively high percentage of titles. I did have the benefit and expierience of working with top-notch studio engineers which can make ALL the difference. I have brought some of that expertise to bear in my new position.

    We do have sound samples (which we never had before and can help you judge) and we have ALWAYS had a returns policy on the website.
    I know that , as I was a customer of theirs before I joined.

    If you are a "tapes purist" of which there are many- The new reality has been for some time- labels dont always have tapes or can find tapes. And in certain situations the label may "price" you out of using the tapes.

    Sometimes you can license only to find the license holder does not have the tapes- but the "old" label does. And now they wont send copies unless you pay- effectively holding the physical property ramsom.
    When youre a small label (as we are) caught up in THAT game it does not make fiscal sense to play. When you are selling perhaps 1-3000 of each title (a far cry from the old days) there is little room to give a label who may want in addition to the licensing fee- an additional 600.00 per track for tape transfers. (If there are tapes).

    I encourage you to search for and read any posts about recent Salsoul UK and Japanese reissues and Ben Liebrands CD series Grand 12 Inches which detail the same problems and issues about tapes and transfers and eventually going to vinyl that are on this very site.

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    That's great news Donald! ....i'm Totally aware of the situation out there with regards to master tapes, rights ,costs etc...and i'm pleased to hear you're officially on board the FTG Label as i know you're a stickler for quality....Yes! i am a tape fanatic however if vinyl has to be used and great care an attention to detail is applied as with the case of some labls i.e PTG records and others then thats great!....I look forward to the new releases!!

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