Advance Promo Copy [Level 3]
Grand 12-Inches 5
It should be available soon as the information is already available here: Grand 12" inches
The release date according to amazon.de is March 31.
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Here's the tracklisting:
CD 1 (The Funky Grooves)
1 Michael Jackson - Don T Stop Till You Get Enough 06:06
(original 12" version)
2 Brothers Johnson - Stomp 05:57
(original 12" version)
3 Cameo - Word Up (Extended Version) 05:56
4 Rick James - Glow (Album Mix) 05:42
5 Mary Jane Girls - In My House 05:03
(original 12" version)
6 Sun - Sun Is Here 05:03
(original 12" version)
7 Ashford & Simpson - Solid (Special Club Mix) 06:17
8 the Floaters - Float On 11:47
9 the Chaplin Band - Il Viliero 11:59
(original 12" version)
10 Amii Stewart - Knock On Wood (Liebrand Edit) 06:52
CD 2 (From relaxed to energetic)
1 Lionel Richie - All Night Long 06:20
(original 12" version)
2 Diana Ross -I M Coming Out (Original Chic Mix) 06:00
3 the Rah Band - Clouds Across the Moon 06:49
(original 12" version)
4 Stargard - Which Way Is Up 06:45
(original 12" version)
5 Mcfadden & Whitehead - Ain T No Stopping Us Now 07:02
(original 12" version)
6 Marvin Gaye - Sexual Healing Suite (Liebrand Edit) 09:24
7 Soul Ii Soul - Back To Life (12" Version) 07:39
8 Advance - Take Me To the Top 06:17
(original 12" version)
9 Patrick Juvet - I Love America 13:58
10 Peaches & Herb - Shake Your Groove Thing 05:35
(original 12" version)
CD 3 (Pure Disco)
1 Cerrone - Love In C Minor (Albummix) 16:20
2 Frantique - Strut Your Funky Stuff (Liebrand Edit) 06:15
3 Andy Williams - Love Story (Where Do I Begin) (Long Version) 09:42
(original 12" version)
4 Womack & Womack - Teardrops (Extended Remix) 07:41
5 Jeff Wayne - the Eve of War (Long Version) 07:00
6 Earth Wind & Fire - Thinking of You (12" Version) 07:56
7 Gary's Gang - Keep On Dancin 07:09
(original 12" version)
8 the Three Degrees - the Runner (Long Version).Aif 08:11
9 Jocko - Rhythm Talk 07:14
CD 4 (Alternative, Pop and more)
1 Cock Robin - the Promise You Made (Special Dance Mix) 06:33
2 Time Bandits - Live It Up 07:25
(US special 12" version)
3 Breakfast Club - Right On Track 07:13
(original 12" version)
4 the Quick - the Rhythm of the Jungle 07:18
5 Boney M - Rasputin (Extended Version) 07:32
6 Mai Tai -What Where When Who 07:56
(Rutger Kroese 12" version)
7 John Miles - Slow Down 04:18
8 the Human League - Don't You Want Me 03:57
9 the Human League - Don't You Want Me (Extended Dance Mix) 07:29
10 Automat - Automat (the Rise, Advance & Genus) 16:53
And the comments by Ben Liebrand:
CD 1 (The Funky Grooves)
1 Michael Jackson - Don T Stop Till You Get Enough 06:06
(original 12" version)
Probably one of the most loved dance tracks ever, brought to you in digital Quality
2 Brothers Johnson - Stomp 05:57
(original 12" version)
With one of the most beautifull AND most difficult intro's to mix, Stomp was one of the highlights of my early DJ career. This track more than many other conveys that exact feel of a time long past.
3 Cameo - Word Up (Extended Version) 05:56
Pure electro funk, with pounding bassdrum and slapping claptrap. unlike many other tracks from this style, this one stands the test of time.
4 Rick James - Glow (Album Mix) 05:42
Brought to you in the album mix as the 12" version + reprise was unfortunately not to be found. A vinyl transfer didn't do the quality justice so therefore this version instead.
5 Mary Jane Girls - In My House 05:03
(original 12" version)
Another track Wriitten and produced by Rick James with the beautifull vocals of JoJo, Candi, Maxi and Cheri
6 Sun - Sun Is Here 05:03
(original 12" version)
Sun was featured on a kind of double a-side 12" which featured Taste Of Honey on the other side. just listen to that bassline. brought to you in full length and master quality.
7 Ashford & Simpson - Solid (Special Club Mix) 06:17
What to do, One version had the beatifull acappella intro, the other had the full length experience. This version brings you the best of both.
8 the Floaters - Float On 11:47
Ralph , Charles , Paul and Larry bring you nearly 12 minutes of Float-time. Each member introducing himself. Probably the first attempt to speed dating. Remember that first slowdance. Bet you would have like this version back then.
9 the Chaplin Band - Il Viliero 11:59
(original 12" version)
Presented in it's full length Il Viliero takes you on an almost 12 minute trip of early dutch produced disco. Having traced the master back to the original company nothing else was left than a 7" version. This version is compiled from 2 carefull vinyl transfers from 2 copies using the DenonDL-160 Moving Coil. All pops have been removed by hand over several hours and I hope I got them all.
10 Amii Stewart - Knock On Wood (Liebrand Edit) 06:52
There are 2 12" versions, one with a long drum intro and outro, and one with a short drum intro, but where the song runs longer. This version gives you the best of both. Plus... The intro and outro are steady now. This was achieved by running a click track along the song and correcting the bassdrums and edits which where out of time.
CD 2 (From relaxed to energetic)
1 Lionel Richie - All Night Long 06:20
(original 12" version)
Very tough to mix this one but it sure is one of the most relaxed summertunes out there.
2 Diana Ross -I M Coming Out (Original Chic Mix) 06:00
It appears that Ms. Ross initially wasn't very impressed with the work Niles and Rodgers. The song nevertheless became a classic and this is their alternative mix.
3 the Rah Band - Clouds Across the Moon 06:49
(original 12" version)
Probably composed after seeing 2001 A Space Oddyssey this song was something out of the ordinairy, with a story told about interrupted long distance interstellar communication complete with voice-overs and sound effects.
4 Stargard - Which Way Is Up 06:45
(original 12" version)
Although provided as a master form the record company, I suspect it to be a vinyl transfer. However, it sounds fine and I included it.
5 Mcfadden & Whitehead - Ain T No Stopping Us Now 07:02
(original 12" version)
Another one that sets your mind right back to those days, Ain't no stoping this one. There are longer version out there, but none to be found in the quality of this one. And if the sound is no good, what use are the extra minutes?
6 Marvin Gaye - Sexual Healing Suite (Liebrand Edit) 09:24
I've been looking for the right 1" version for years and as it turns out, there isn't one. So I made it myself from the vocal and instrumental master versions which were available. It has a nice drum intro and even a drums only break and now lasts over 9 minutes. This version is has it's first exclusive appearance o Grand 12 Inches 5
7 Soul Ii Soul - Back To Life (12" Version) 07:39
Odd to hear a newer track here? No it isn't, as these are the tracks that influenced my carreer and obviously that evolution did not stop as soon as the early 80's
8 Advance - Take Me To the Top 06:17
(original 12" version)
Yes, this is from Italy, produced by the men who also brought Fun Fun to the dancefloors. Alvaro Ugolini and Dario Raimondi are responsible for this American sounding funky tune.
9 Patrick Juvet - I Love America 13:58
(12" version)
Patrick expresses his love for the states in a musical trip around the states, Transfer by Frans vd Kamp.
10 Peaches & Herb - Shake Your Groove Thing 05:35
(original 12" version)
Energy, energy, energy, shake it, enough said!
CD 3 (Pure Disco)
1 Cerrone - Love In C Minor (Albummix) 16:20
Disco Masterpiece by the man who invented it. 16+ minutes of sensual drums, vocals, strings and ladies.
This version is directly from the archives of Cerrone and comes as is, processing and all.
2 Frantique - Strut Your Funky Stuff (Liebrand Edit) 06:15
Again a difficult choice, should i take the longer version, or the version that's simply better and has a usefull intro and break. It turned out to be the best of both, giving you an exclusive edit with extended intro and break, and an extra check if the drums were running steady in the intro and break.
3 Andy Williams - Love Story (Where Do I Begin) (Long Version) 09:42
(original 12" version)
A very rare 12" here presented in master quality and full length. Even Sony couldn't remeber that there indeed had been a 3" CD which contained it back in the 80's.
4 Womack & Womack - Teardrops (Extended Remix) 07:41
Classy dance track, simply enjoy!
5 Jeff Wayne - the Eve of War (Long Version) 07:00
You mean the album version....No not the album a special remix! You mean the Ben Liebrand remix? No... a special disco remix made in 1978 by Steve Thompson! Are you sure?? Yes I'm sure and after we found the matching catalog number it could finally be included on Grand 12 Inches 5!
6 Earth Wind & Fire - Thinking of You (12" Version) 07:56
One of the few special 12" versions we didn't have yet.
7 Gary's Gang - Keep On Dancin 07:09
(original 12" version)
Took some time to figure out were it could be licensed but here it finally is, one of the ultimate disco classics in full length master quality.
8 the Three Degrees - the Runner (Long Version).Aif 08:11
I was as disapointed as you that I couldn't find the right version for the previous edition. I did come across a decent vinyl transfer which appears to be the only thing left as nobody was able to find a master in any of the archives. So here it is in close to 100% perfect quality.
9 Jocko - Rhythm Talk 07:14
Taking the instrumental version of "Ain't no stoppin' us now" Jocko raps along in the style of the very first sugarhill gang records. A pity he doesn't take a shor break for a short break as ther is no way of mixing out of this one once he's started.
CD 4 (Alternative, Pop and more)
1 Cock Robin - the Promise You Made (Special Dance Mix) 06:33
Seen on enough compilations, it here appears in the full length version as it probably also appeared on the 12" promo. many of the other 12" releases featured a short mix of the same title and not the long version as included here.
2 Time Bandits - Live It Up 07:25
(US special 12" version)
Very rare long version in great sound quality made in the land of clogs and tulips.
3 Breakfast Club - Right On Track 07:13
(original 12" version)
Mid 80's dance track fequently found in the short 4:16 version, here presented in full length.
4 the Quick - the Rhythm of the Jungle 07:18
Brilliant track, happy to be able to finally include it! Great sound. Great Bassline!
5 Boney M - Rasputin (Extended Version) 07:32
What the ..... Boney M ? I know this is an extreme silly song, but it's the 2 minute drum intro I used back then and remembered all those years. Anyway it is very very rare and now you've got it too
6 Mai Tai -What Where When Who 07:56
(Rutger Kroese 12" version)
Remixed and edited by colleague Rutger Kroese one of the more hard to find 12" version of Mai Tai
7 John Miles - Slow Down 04:18
Specially for Hemmy at Sony/BMG, this somewhat shorter 12" version of john Miles. Hemmy thanks or not going crazy.
8 the Human League - Don't You Want Me 03:57
There is a vocal version which isn't long and a long version which isn't very vocal, which one to choose.This time not an edit but simply both versions in the best quality I could find.
9 the Human League - Don't You Want Me (Extended Dance Mix) 07:29
There is a vocal version which isn't long and a long version which isn't very vocal, which one to choose.This time not an edit but simply both versions in the best quality I could find.
10 Automat - Automat (the Rise, Advance & Genus) 16:53
Everybody was in their Soul outfits shaking down to the ground, Meanwhile this was also being made back in 1978. Trance in one of it's earliest forms. The one thing that bugged me for years was that the track had a lousy bassdrum which is now remedied by adding only the low end of a bassdrum to the already existing one. I've done so with the greatest care and in line with the original sounds. Hope you like it!
Last edited by Bernie; April 7th, 2008 at 10:51 AM.
"Wisdom is the province of the aged, but the heart of a child is pure."
– Indian saying ("The Party")
*** Forum Leader / Moderator ***
Like always with the Grand 12" series there's a lot of stuff that I already have but "Eve Of The War", the Steve Thompson RMX? Sold! :icon_lol: And Quinny's prayers are heard: it has the REAL extended version of The Three Degree's "The Runner"! Remicks also will be thrilled for the Andy Williams "Love Story" so why should we complain?
Thank you Ben!
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Last edited by Bernie; April 7th, 2008 at 10:55 AM.
Indie Release [Level 4]
Now I know it's SPRING!!!
I'll take it for the extended "Sexual Healing" and "Knock On Wood"!
But, as with the last couple of editions, there are a couple of so-called "12 inch versions" that are not.
2 that I spot are "Ain't No Stopping Us Now" and "Shake Your Groove Thing". Definitely longer versions of both are available.
Advance Promo Copy [Level 3]
I noticed the first one, too. "Ain't No Stopping Us Now" is probably presentented in the album version which I don't mind in this case as I already have the longer version on two compilations.Originally Written by RobbaDobba
Anyway, it's a definite buy for me as I'm still missing the tracks by Brothers Johnson, Stargard, EW&F and Peaches & Herb in my collection.
Also, I only have short versions of "I Love America", "Keep On Dancin'" and "Knock On Wood".
The last two are still needed for my perfected "Studio 54" soundtrack project (same tracklisting as the OST but all full length versions + Amii Stewart's version of "Knock On Wood").
The Moroder mix of "The Runner" is a plus as well.
Some of the non-disco stuff I'm really looking forward to, e.g. "Teardrops" which has got be one of my favourite tunes of all-time.:icon_biggrin:
"Wisdom is the province of the aged, but the heart of a child is pure."
– Indian saying ("The Party")
Indie Release [Level 4]
Danke für den Hinweis, musiquelover
Double Platinum Record [Level 9]
Once again it is a tad disappointing but I'm quite excited about the Jeff Wayne & Andy Williams tracks as I was searching for them recently so I'll probably end up buying it.:icon_razz: Pity Ben couldn't have done one of his special edits on 'I Love America' where he left the longer intro & removed some of the annoying 'musical genres' bits.Can I just say though, Ben Liebrand for president of the world!
Last edited by SandraDee; March 30th, 2008 at 12:17 PM.
...ya gotta beat the street......
Indie Release [Level 4]
Thanks for that great news !
No Longer Charting
Disappointing tracklist. Where's the edge, especially with a whole year between releases, to search out missing previously un-released (to CD) gems and get the necessary permissions???? I doubt if more than a few of these tracks, are not already on compilations. I certainly have all but those few (and his re-edits Grrr annoying Ben, annoying) on other CDs. This is a Sony corporate release in my view.
Will I be buying?...........Yes in all probability, as I have the other four.
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Last edited by Bernie; April 7th, 2008 at 10:56 AM.
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Ben is fully aware of that, he's desperately looking for a lot of mastertapes. Isn't it amazing that a lot of classics simply are not available anymore for reproduction? The tapes got lost or were simply destroyed. And I think that happened to more tracks then we think. So he really wants to put out more stuff than he's actually able to.
So people, if you want to help him, please contact Ben @:
Ben Liebrand
Fax 00 31 (0) 24 6775907
E-mail: liebrand@euronet.nl
LIEBRAND IMAGES / LIEBRAND AUDIO
Postbus 15
6550 ZG Weurt
The Netherlands
If you have masters, access to analog masters or digital recordings from actual masters on CDR, DAT or Sony SLF1
Aren't we all? First, we say, OMG what a disappointment, we already have all that stuff (me too) and then you realise that a few of them are missing in your collection and, yes, you buy :icon_lol:
And they are not that expensive, so ...
Advance Promo Copy [Level 3]
I'm a little bit with Quinny here as I'd love to see more material which is either unavailable on CD or extremely hard to find.
As much as I like a track like "Love In C Minor" it's not hard to find it through the internet these days.
By way of contrast, there's lots of stuff like "Two Hot For Love", "Here Comes That Sound Again", "Hills Of Katmandu", Amant's "If There's Love, "Cocomotion", D.D. Sound's "Café", Montana's "A Dance Fantasy" and so on which are either not available in legit CD form at all or only are available on CD in edited form and/or with lacking sound quality.
To me, the question remains why he doesn't settle for really high-quality vinyl transfers instead (like he did with Macho's "I'm A Man" for example) when he's unable to get the mastertapes.
Just because we're buying these CDs doesn't mean that they're perfect and cannot be improved.:icon_idea:
"Wisdom is the province of the aged, but the heart of a child is pure."
– Indian saying ("The Party")
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Good example of what I mean......Quick - Rhythm Of The Jungle. A year ago I would have been ectatic to have it on a CD, BUT I already have it on Disco Giants. So why hasn't Ben sought out Zulu (THE track everyone around here would want, given the choice) instead?
I understand it ain't easy, BUT to me, this latest release shows that both Ben and Sony are playing it safe to maximise sales. In one way I can't blame him, 'cos it's better to keep the series going through healthy sales figures, BUT.........his DJ instincts must be niggling away at his brain, surely.
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This caught my eye:
9 the Chaplin Band - Il Viliero 11:59(original 12" version)
Presented in it's full length Il Viliero takes you on an almost 12 minute trip of early dutch produced disco. Having traced the master back to the original company nothing else was left than a 7" version. This version is compiled from 2 carefull vinyl transfers from 2 copies using the DenonDL-160 Moving Coil. All pops have been removed by hand over several hours and I hope I got them all.
Is this the same tune as the one below??? If so, which is the correct spelling of the title??? Billboard & other sources I checked had it this way....
50) IL VELIERO ("The Sail Ship") - Lucio Battisti
(RCA- Canada 12-inch: 6:06)
9 points/ 1 chart = Montreal
BDA Top 40: n/c
DCC chart: 6 weeks on chart // Last week: #44 (-6)
"Lost inside adorable illusion...."
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"Il Veliero" was the Italian version of the Spanish hit "El Veliero". The Chaplin Band from Holland had a massive summer hit with that. The original is indeed by Lucio Battisti who of course also has an Italian version.
Chaplin Band Il Veliero (12") Disco Music.com
Lucio Battisti El Velero (Spanish 12") Disco Music.com
Quinny, you're right about your statements. Is it just playing safe or is it a copyright and/or mastertape problem, I don't know.
Maybe he has other tracks in the working for a future release. Let's hope.
BTW, Ben is not an underground guy. So he won't walk the path of Dimitri From Paris or Joey Negro IMO. They are really going after very rare stuff. And considering that he couldn't find "The Runner" for the 4th box proves to me that all this is much more difficult than we imagine.
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I'm willing to give him A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LEEWAY, because I realise this is a problem, BUT he was a DJ so he knows which tracks will have more kudos than others.Quinny, you're right about your statements. Is it just playing safe or is it a copyright and/or mastertape problem, I don't know.
At the rate of one compilation per year (of this series) I'll be dead and gone before he gets to any 'interesting' releases.Maybe he has other tracks in the working for a future release. Let's hope.
I've always been a supporter of Ben exactly for the reason you state. Before now I remember saying something like "he doesn't spend most of his time stuck up his own ass" or words to that effect. I don't expect him to release 'trainspotter' tracks, but this latest release just catches me as being a tad lazy and very, very safe. If Dimitri et al can release CDs with the most obscure tracks in the world (supposedly cleared for copyright) why can't Ben fill the gap of releasing tracks from every DJ's playlists i.e. tracks that were actually played en masse BITD and would actually be wanted today? On this latest release, there are just too many tracks that anyone and everyone must already have (some in abundance). I feel that HIS judgement has been demoted in preference to some unknown 'face' at Sony corporate.BTW, Ben is not an underground guy. So he won't walk the path of Dimitri From Paris or Joey Negro IMO. They are really going after very rare stuff. And considering that he couldn't find "The Runner" for the 4th box proves to me that all this is much more difficult than we imagine.
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The one that caught my interest the most , as I typically savor earlier EW&F, and here was one by them I'd never heard of :
But then I viewed it on Youtube :
(heaven forbid someone should want to view this &%$@ !!!!)
OK if interested view it this way : YouTube - Earth Wind & Fire - Thinking of You
What's it doing on the "pure disco" CD ???
Not much earth ... not much fire ... mainly wind and even that wouldn't fill a sail !! :icon_razz:
My how far they'd descended from their more cosmic spiritual days ...:icon_sad::icon_sad:
Guessing it mixed well with Janet ....
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Last edited by remicks; April 1st, 2008 at 12:19 AM.
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