Cool song! The voice is still vintage Donna, the sound is Techhouse. Doesn't make me forget her landmark 70's albums but it grows on you and it's good!
Cool song! The voice is still vintage Donna, the sound is Techhouse. Doesn't make me forget her landmark 70's albums but it grows on you and it's good!
I was hoping for something more "pop" sounding, more memorable and "hooky". This will not bring her into a comeback in any way. There's so much music out there that has catchier tunes and hummable lyrics that will get airplay on the radio...the clubs don't drive record sales anymore like they did in the 70's. She can do better and she needs to do better to get new people, and old timers, to fall in love with her all over again.
Last edited by remicks; March 1st, 2008 at 03:49 AM.
Baby, take me
high upon a hillside
high up where the stallion
meets the sun
I know....I'm so disappointed! Why do I feel there was too much of an effort to create something different or something groundbreaking? It works at the hotel lobby/ lounge level.
I've heard the first set of remixes which all pump it up a bit but keep the funky house feel (the Solitaire mix being the best of the bunch) but the lyrics just seem so unfitting for her at this point..."you're the water on my chocolate"??? Huh?!???
I want that joyous Donna that sang Carry On in the early 90s!
Dancin' helps relieve the pain, soothes your mind, makes you happy again
The song is good, and I do think it will make some noise in the clubs, but do you guys really think that Miss Summer is going to reach the heights she did in her heyday? She is not the exception, as is the case with so many other artists who saw their finest days during a completely different time. Were any of you saying the same thing when she released the brilliant "I Will Go With You" nine years ago? Granted, the song was as radio-friendly as anything she ever put out and it did great in the clubs, but it didn't chart very high on the pop charts, at least state-side. I'm almost embarrassed to ask if artists are still being judged on how high their songs chart. Naturally, I would think it's all about the sales entirely these days. Believe it or not, club-oriented songs can drive sales and airplay, but it is a niche market. At least where I live (New Jersey), where club music has a very strong market (obviously), it can reach any substantial degree of significance. There is no doubt that the song will do well in that niche market, but if you're expecting another "Bad Girls" or "Last Dance", forget it. I'll even say that Donna has had many a comeback, even before the big deluge of late 1979; case in point: "I Feel Love" was her first Top 40 record in nearly two years. Four consecutive singles after "Love To Love You Baby" failed to make the Top 40. Ironically, she was more successful on the soul chart at that time, and by the time she hit the stratosphere, the situation was vice-versa. She was now a pop princess and less of a soul siren. Not to cast dispersions on her great releases between 1975-77, but despite lack of chart success during that period, she was solidfying her status as disco queen in the clubs, and that has always been the one intangible aspect of her career. She could lose favor with mainstream radio, but the door to the club would always be open (with some bumps along the way, of course).
"Everyone knows the real reason why you got that part it was the time you spent on that casting couch"--Antoine Merriwether
"Excuse me, Miss Thing, but both of us spent time on that couch"--Blaine Edwards
I don't think it's a matter of reaching lofty heights...perhaps it's more of releasing material that truly reaches out to her long-time fans. The first time that I heard I Will Go With You, it was obvious that this was Donna in her finest form. The video was high class, vocals topnotch and overall fun and frivolous.
Unfortunately, I'm thinking she may be in the hands of current, trendy producers and their attempts to have her appeal to young clubbers.
Dancin' helps relieve the pain, soothes your mind, makes you happy again
I think most people are being OVER analytical and picking it apart because it's DONNA..
Granted ..NO ,It's not I Feel Love or Could It be magic .
It's what the clubs are playing now.. AS for radio play it say's"CLUB ONLY SINGLE" ..It still has her BEAUTIFUL vocals"still fully in tact"..Why do we pick apart the ones we love most?
Dont answer I already know..
Does anyone no how HARD it is for almost ANY artist to get a record deal on a decent label now? ..Trust me I deal with Talented artists quite often..Estableshed artists that shouldnt have to do a cartwheel and 3 back flips to get someone's attention.
Do you know who holds the record for most #1 billboard Dance songs?
"Kristine W"..gag on that..
So this song is very apropos for todays dance market..
Dont scream and throw fits untill you hear the album..
*****
Being critical is a good thing .There'll probably be others who will insist on calling this tune great only because it is Donna. I'm sure amongst the sparse releases of dance stuff put out nowadays this one will do fine. It certainly isn't terrible. But yes I have only the highest expectations of Donna . It's her fault though.... It's she who set the bar so high for herself . :icon_lol:
The hunger that an artist brings in their early years is missing ... the earnestness . Sounds like a cake walk....Sort of like "Here I am, stuck doing this s&*$t"
Can't wait to see if the album holds something more compelling!!!
*****
Baby, take me
high upon a hillside
high up where the stallion
meets the sun
Being critical is a part of human nature. We can love an artist to death, yet we can point out his strengths and weaknesses just the same. The earnestness that Remicks mentioned brings to mind Miss Ross' Diana album from 1980.Amongst all her solo albums, this was without doubt her strongest solo album ever. Aside from the fact that it was produced by top-notch men (Nile Rodgers and Bernard Edwards), the album had a raw, seemingly organic oeuvre about it (all this despite Motown's Russ Terrana remixing of the album, stripping it of its muscle). Regardless of the questionable moves which were done, Diana seemed almost like a "first album" of sorts for Miss Ross. It was an entirely cohesive album that spun a web of solid songs, lyrics and vocal presentation (definitely on the original mix done by Rodgers and Edwards). Too bad it was short-lived; Diana jumped ship to RCA, started producing her own music, the "bitch, step aside" urban legend, the Central Park concert, Call Her Miss Ross book, the cheesy "children of the world/everybody love one another" mantras, "I Will Survive", the Return To Love Tour, Double Platinum with Brandy, The Diana Ross E! True Hollywood Story, American Idol, "More Today Than Yesterday" and the (off-key) band languished on... I can totally see Miss Ross uttering those famous lines that Remicks alluded to with that compilation of love songs.
"Everyone knows the real reason why you got that part it was the time you spent on that casting couch"--Antoine Merriwether
"Excuse me, Miss Thing, but both of us spent time on that couch"--Blaine Edwards
Something about this song sounds weak to me. Can't really put my finger on it, but it lacks something. This particular mix sounds awful due to levels not being proper, a little too much coming at you at the same time.
I think DS would do a lot better if she experimented with her music, the way she started. Maybe her trans religion is keeping her locked. She needs to open it up and let us hear something interesting instead of sounding desperately trying to get on some charts.
HM
I'm sorry if I offend anybody with my critique, but some of her releases lately have been really good. 'I Will Go With You' and 'I Got Your Love' were splendid in my opinion. But there are lots of great songwriters out there with material much better than this. This is so average. You could get this same sort of club sound with a song with catchy lyrics and bright melody and have a club hit as well as a pop hit, couldn't you?
You didn't offend me.. What I am saying is in this day and age old school artists have little say in the material they are given.. They do the best with what the Producers and song writers and the label gives them.. after all it's Burgundy Records ..Not Casablanca where she was queen bee and had carte blanche at times..![]()
Why didn't Donna get together with the people behind Cher's 'Believe'. I'm sure they could come up with something that would please her fans more. This track is quite good classy house but doesn't suit Donna; she suits a more commercial sound.
...ya gotta beat the street......
OK I need to resurrect this thread because I also cannot believe the mumbojumbo that Donna Summer has been releasing for the last years.
I think "I Will Go With You" was really good, it has a LOT of really hard driving mixes (expecially the Hex Hector ones", and "Love Is The Healer" was a total success in my book and ultimate anthem of hers, however I know that it didn't sell much, right? I mean, the only cd issued was the one for Europe..
After that, the Pokemon single, was ok, the mixes were a bit too extreme, but I still liked it.
"I Got Your Love", I could not believe my ears, that was complete dullness and I have never heard such non-songs like that, I'm A Fire (and why does she sing "I AM a fire" then?) and even the official first single "Stamp Your Feet" (certainly not to this album Donna).
I cannot believe that this is the sound she wants. Nor the songs she wants. I simply cannot believe that the woman who gave us dozens and dozens of genuine anthemic songs and classics, wants to do this.
The mixes are nondistinct as well.
If Kristine W or Suzanne Palmer can get those easy as pie songs and make them so clubby why can't DOnna. Not what she wants? Well what does she want? I cannot really believe that she is that powerless that she has to go along with whatever her producers or label stick her with.
I'm sure they would like some more sales too.
It's not that hard to pull a club hit with DOnna Summer.
However, what's with her voice now, I really feel that it's been computerized, it does not sound genuine, it sounds so unnatural.
Sorry, I cannot get my head round ALL OF this.
I feel your pain westwood!Do like I did, forget all about this brave new world, slip into something comfortable, pour yourself a nice long drink & stick on 'I Remember Yesterday' at full volume.:icon_razz:
...ya gotta beat the street......
Well I will never stop having hope. I'm still gonna buy all the releases like I have for two reasons: you can never know when you will start to like something. So many times I hated somethign at first (usually when I had high expectations, due to previous music of that artist, loving the artist, or the worst in my book, rumours and opinions of people who have heard it before, or heard it on a bad quality medium. That is why I hate that side of youtube.), you need to give them time, listen to it several times to appreaciate the many levels it may have, or listen to it from different perspectives. The other is that you know you will regret not buying it because you'll likely want it in the future (maybe to keep your collection complete) and it will cost way more than when you could have bought it in the first place.
Nobody has yet commented on my question about her voice in this album, that it sounds not natural, not like her previous recordings. Is it just me?
I find her vocal is very computer manipulated but I have a feeling that this is very much the norm with pop vocals of today. Perhaps, because we're very close to Donna's earlier work and used to her natural vocal beauty, these filtered/technically-enhanced techniques are blatantly obvious to us. I can't help but think that it all fits in with current society's efforts and need for perfection.
For younger artists like Rihanna, Beyonce and the like, who knows what they really sound like. We...or at least the rest of the world....seem to enjoy the completed recorded projects thrown out on the airwaves and for the most part, are caught up in the hype and overly-marketed image of that artist. Knowing the true natural voice is a non-issue for an aggressive society that's become impatient with any signs of flaws and imperfection.
Dancin' helps relieve the pain, soothes your mind, makes you happy again
I know what you mean, however maybe because we know Donna has such a distinct and great voice, for it to be manipulated this way, it stands out even more.
I can't say when I'll be able to play her album without this voice standing out so much and not allowing me to enjoy the album...
However I have found nobody else's vocals to be this odd-sounding.
On the other hand, an artist whose latest album must have been heavily computer-manipulated in every way possible, Britney Spears' Blackout, it does not annoy me one bit.
For those who aren't familiar withthe album, I cannot recommend it enough. On the wave of the hype of it I even bought ther previous albums only tofind them atrocious. This one is something else.
I think, most likely, it's the fact that Ms. Spears vocals are not that distinctive to begin with so computer-enhancing almost seems necessary. We have more respect for Donna's talents so it must bother us that there were those who thought trendier techniques seemed appropriate.
Dancin' helps relieve the pain, soothes your mind, makes you happy again
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