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    Hip Hop ... what is it?

    I am at the end sure about Disco, Funk, Soul, Techno, and all other terms... quite uncertain about "Hip Hop" meaning.
    What do you think? I think this thread has been already posted long ago... if so.. sorry..
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    The first thing you have to know about hip hop is that it's not just music, but a whole culture. The same could be said about any kind of music I suppose but in hip hop it's even more emphasized.

    It all started in New York in the mid-70's. DJ's such as Kool Herc, Grandmaster Flash and Afrika Bambaataa used to organize parties in abandoned houses, parks or even on the streets, sometimes even in legal places. The DJ's were playing mostly old funk and soul (Jimmy Castor, Incredible Bongo Band, etc) music. At some point one of the DJ's (probably Kool Herc) noticed that the dancers used to go crazy during the breakdown parts of songs when only drums and sometimes bass was audible. He thought about it and started to use two copies of the record simultaneosly, making the break last as long as he wanted by rewinding the other record to the start of the break while the other one was playing, thus playing the break part for as long as he wanted. People loved that and many DJ's followed. At some point Grandmaster Flash thought that just playing the records was not enough and decided to ad some MC's (basicly just people who were doing simple poetry to the rhythm of the music) to enhance his shows. A few years later someone thought about recording that and released the first hip hop records. They (especially Sugarhill Gang's Rapper's Delight that used a part of Chic's Good Times, recreated by Sugar Hill Record's studio band) became an overnight success. Over the next 20 years it slowly build it's way up to the multi-million business it is now.

    Besided the music, hip hop includes:

    DJ'ing: Playing records is where it all started so it is (for me at least) the most important thing in hip hop. Instead of simply beat-mixing hip hop DJ's usually perform all kinds of tricks with their turntables, such as scratching and beat-juggling.
    MC'ing: Also called rapping. Performing poetry to the rhythm of music. It's a bit hard to explain, but rapping is not always the same as just talking to the rhythm of music. There's a slight, but hard to define, difference between the two. Someone else can probably explain why something like the Last Poets is not hip hop music (to me at least), although it fulfills all the criteria.
    Dancing: Dancing, especially breakdancing and body-popping (also called electric boogie), while not mandatory, is something most people in hip hop enjoy. The culture was originally just about playing music for people to dance to so it still remains an essential part of hip hop, although modern hip hop styles have taken the music far away from it's dancefloor roots.
    Graffiti: Painting logos and pictures with spray paint in walls and other public places, usually without permission.

    Those things form this mystic thing called hip hop. It's a bit hard to define what constitutes for something to be hip hop, as someone can be hip hop by just doing one of the things listed above while someone could do them all without being hip hop. Above anything else, it's a way of living.

    Note: When writing the above, I was very tired. Faulty grammar and some mistakes can exist.

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    Hey Funkatronik, welcome to discomusic.com! Where are you posting from?
    To see from your reply I must assume you've great culture of discomusic.... so glad to see joining our family.
    Thank you for your reply, in fact now all is clear to me and I want to thank you specially to have spent so much time for me.
    But just a last point: what "MC" means?!?! :o
    Sorry my english is not so deep...
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    Masdefi, I always thought MC stood for 'master of ceremonies' but,yo dude, don't quote me 'cos I aint no hip-hop expert! Respect!
    ...ya gotta beat the street......

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    Quote Originally Written by Masdefi
    Hey Funkatronik, welcome to discomusic.com! Where are you posting from?
    To see from your reply I must assume you've great culture of discomusic.... so glad to see joining our family.
    Thank you for your reply, in fact now all is clear to me and I want to thank you specially to have spent so much time for me.
    But just a last point: what "MC" means?!?! :o
    Sorry my english is not so deep...
    Bye,
    Masdefi
    I come from Finland but unfortunately the disco culture here is almost non-existent, unless you count house music as disco. There were loads of clubs playing disco back in the 70's and early 80's but I'm a bit too young to know if they were any good or not. There are some disco collectors but not enough to support something like a regular disco club, even in the capital area. A shame, really. Hip hop is popular, as everywhere I suppose, but I'm not really a part of that culture so I can't comment how healthy that is at the moment.

    MC means usually Master of Ceremonies, as Steely Dan already told but some people use the term Microphone Controller. Both mean the same thing basically, at least outside Jamaica.

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    hi boys

    before they had mixers the djs had a party
    on the street. and a each one brougth theyre
    own stereosystem out. then they stationed themselfes
    at each corner. then they played one record
    each and messaged each other with flashlight
    when the record was on end so the next one
    could begin his and turn up his volumeme and soforth.

    this is what I read in the book
    "last night a dj saved my life"

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    and then

    there is a story about one young dj
    playing in his room when his mother came
    in with the; "turn that music down
    and get in here and eat your dinner...
    .or something.." and he put his finger on
    the record to stop it and (with his headphones
    on of course )while semingly listenig to his
    mother started to move his finger back and forth
    listenig to the sound he was makin he tought to himself
    "WHAT IS THAT" so we had scratching.
    ...these moms!

    (I think it was Grandmaster or DST or
    theadore....)

    also from last night a dj saved my life

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    Hi midas,
    thank you for your contribute... now It's clear to me what Hip Hop is, and thanks to Giovanni, too.
    ......."I said the hip, the hop, the hipidippi....", ......

    Bye
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    Re: and then


     

     

    >(I think it was Grandmaster or DST or
    >theadore....)

    I went to see Grandmaster Flash performing at a club in Swindon a few weeks ago (he was excellent), and did a bit of research beforehand. He is generally credited with being the person who invented "scratching".

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