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    Question: Do you prefer ''Why Can't Live Together'' by Timmy Thomas or Sade?

    Do you prefer ''Why Can't Live Together'' by Timmy Thomas (1972, TK Records) or Sade (from de album Diamond Life)?





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    Re: Question: Do you prefer ''Why Can't Live Together'' by Timmy Thomas or Sade?

    Although I Love The smooth sounds of Sade.I am going to have to stick with the classic Timmy Thomas Version ..

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    Re: Question: Do you prefer ''Why Can't Live Together'' by Timmy Thomas or Sade?

    I remember two other versions of the song that came out in 1982. One was by Kongas and produced by Cerrone. Another version was by Mike Anthony and was flip-out fantastic at 7:15! As I remember Cerrone/Kongas was not as good, and if memory serves me it was the Anthony version which deserves the grand prize. Mike Anthony's rendition was pretty close to the original Thomas version but so much better as it is an extended dance version. I can not believe it but I have either given away or misfiled my Kongas copy.
    Last edited by normvork; June 6th, 2007 at 12:49 AM. Reason: More complete information.

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    Re: Question: Do you prefer ''Why Can't Live Together'' by Timmy Thomas or Sade?

    No contest!! Timmy Thomas every time for me.

    The Sade version is interesting in places, but I don't get the same amount of Soul and feel from her voice as I do from Timmy's.

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    Re: Question: Do you prefer ''Why Can't Live Together'' by Timmy Thomas or Sade?

    Quote Originally Written by normvork View Post
    Mike Anthony's rendition was pretty close to the original Thomas version
    Yeah, no wonder, they had to destroy the first pressing coz' it used non authorised samples of the Thomas' original. BITD Mike Anthony was a DJ in Antwerp/Belgium and I met him a lotta times at the USA Import Recordshop. The people who then owned that shop did this production.

    I, of course, have the original and first pressing :icon_mrgreen:

    http://www.discomusic.com/records-more/3957_0_2_0_C/





    I also have the Kongas 12" which is good too. In fact they all are much much better than the Sade rendition IMO.

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    Re: Question: Do you prefer ''Why Can't Live Together'' by Timmy Thomas or Sade?

    Quote Originally Written by Videoskooter View Post
    Yeah, no wonder, they had to destroy the first pressing coz' it used non authorised samples of the Thomas' original.
    I also have the Kongas 12" which is good too. In fact they all are much much better than the Sade rendition IMO.
    I am curious if the later pressing that I have, released on Sunnyside records in USA, is much different from the Ariola pressing. This label also released remixes of KC and the Sunshine Band so I suppose they could have gotten license from TK to do the Timmy Thomas "bootleg" tracks also?

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    Re: Question: Do you prefer ''Why Can't Live Together'' by Timmy Thomas or Sade?

    Quote Originally Written by normvork View Post
    I am curious if the later pressing that I have, released on Sunnyside records in USA, is much different from the Ariola pressing. This label also released remixes of KC and the Sunshine Band so I suppose they could have gotten license from TK to do the Timmy Thomas "bootleg" tracks also?
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    Re: Question: Do you prefer ''Why Can't Live Together'' by Timmy Thomas or Sade?

    I know only the two versions mentioned at the beginning of this post. I like Sade's better, but Timmy's original is important for being -supposedly- the first time a rhythm machine was used in a dance-like song. Don't have the original LP to check, but I suppose that being released in one of the TK Family's Miami labels, Mr. KC must have had something to do with that recording.
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    Re: Question: Do you prefer ''Why Can't Live Together'' by Timmy Thomas or Sade?

    Quote Originally Written by normvork View Post
    I am curious if the later pressing that I have, released on Sunnyside records in USA, is much different from the Ariola pressing.
    Normvork, I can't answer that coz' I never heard it. I know that the second release over here had somewhat weaker vocals (don't ask me why coz' they really are Mike's) and a more artificial sound. If you play 'em side by side you'll immediately pick the 1st take.

    BTW, there were more labels that released this track.

    Off-topic: Producer José Pascual also did this remix album! Now try to get a copy of this 1 coz' it is awesome!

    http://www.discomusic.com/records-more/3880_0_2_0_C/


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    Re: Question: Do you prefer ''Why Can't Live Together'' by Timmy Thomas or Sade?

    Quote Originally Written by Videoskooter View Post
    Yeah, no wonder, they had to destroy the first pressing coz' it used non authorised samples of the Thomas' original. BITD Mike Anthony was a DJ in Antwerp/Belgium and I met him a lotta times at the USA Import Recordshop. The people who then owned that shop did this production.

    I, of course, have the original and first pressing :icon_mrgreen:

    http://www.discomusic.com/records-more/3957_0_2_0_C/
    That's interesting, I didn't know that.

    I wonder if my UK copy on "Music Msters" label is the original. this version was released on white vinyl with the same cover sleeve pictured above, apparently by a small outfit advertising themselves right on the label:icon_eek:

    On the Super Dancing Discomix side it sounds like the used the percussion from "At Midnite" by T connection

    the flip side is a shorter version of the same thing, I can't easily tell how long this versions are since the label doesn't indicate.

    This Mike Anthony's version was played all over the South Florida area.

    Never heard of that Sade version , :icon_redface:
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    Re: Question: Do you prefer ''Why Can't Live Together'' by Timmy Thomas or Sade?

    Quote Originally Written by normvork View Post
    I am curious if the later pressing that I have, released on Sunnyside records in USA, is much different from the Ariola pressing. This label also released remixes of KC and the Sunshine Band so I suppose they could have gotten license from TK to do the Timmy Thomas "bootleg" tracks also?
    I just found my (never played :icon_eek:)1982 Promo copy on Sunnyview (Sun 403)both version here are different from my UK copy, Sunnyview's Side A is listed as the "Super Dance version" (7:15) but it sounds like a different recording, not the UK version I posted, Side B is called the "Dream Version" (7:15)more like the 'Dub" version , as the play with the vocals here.

    Don't know if this versions are the same as the Ariola release.

    The popular version in local clubs was the UK disc's version, that's why I never even bothered peeking into the Sunnyview label's until now:icon_eek: :icon_mrgreen:

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    Re: Question: Do you prefer ''Why Can't Live Together'' by Timmy Thomas or Sade?

    And what about the '82 dance version from Illusion
    http://www.discomusic.com/records-more/3981_0_2_0_C/

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    Re: Question: Do you prefer ''Why Can't Live Together'' by Timmy Thomas or Sade?

    Timmy Thomas, of course. It is a bona-fide soul classic, the highest point of his erratic career. Sade's cover of the song is ok, but it is a "clean" version, too smooth for me. I prefer the "rough" original a billion times. Sade's take on the song is wine; Timmy's original is thick blood.

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    Re: Question: Do you prefer ''Why Can't Live Together'' by Timmy Thomas or Sade?

    why mess with perfection?

    the original every day of the week
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    Re: Question: Do you prefer ''Why Can't Live Together'' by Timmy Thomas or Sade?

    Quote Originally Written by efunk_adelic View Post
    why mess with perfection?

    the original every day of the week
    Timmy Thomas
    Ok, but Sade is Sade, so even if the original is better, I gotta take Sade as i just loved her sound:icon_cool:

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    Re: Question: Do you prefer ''Why Can't Live Together'' by Timmy Thomas or Sade?

    Quote Originally Written by efunk_adelic View Post
    why mess with perfection?

    the original every day of the week
    Timmy Thomas

    Timmy Thomas version is hands down the one for me as well, it's a great song so the cover versions are good too, but don't hold up to the original IMO.

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    Re: Question: Do you prefer ''Why Can't Live Together'' by Timmy Thomas or Sade?

    The C.S. Disco Remix was and is the best !!.
    YouTube - Timmy Thomas - Why Cant We Live Together (C.S. Disco Remix).
    Never knew this track before this remix was released on the bootleg C.S. label.
    Enjoy!.

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    Re: Question: Do you prefer ''Why Can't Live Together'' by Timmy Thomas or Sade?

    zeca azevedo said it best, thick blood. Although Sade's version is not bad, it doesn't generate T.T.'s sound because his version really lays it on the foundation of its generation. There was war, riots, racism and misunderstanding. The major inner cities were protesting and Black power was at an uprisal. It truly was the sound that got the message across stronger.

    Sade is just, well, Sade! Nice try babe.

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    Re: Question: Do you prefer ''Why Can't Live Together'' by Timmy Thomas or Sade?

    Timmy Thomas certainly has the more interesting video. That go-go girl really works it:



    I love everything Sade does. But as for remakes, I like Santana's live version:

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    Re: Question: Do you prefer ''Why Can't Live Together'' by Timmy Thomas or Sade?

    I love the Timmy Thomas version.

    But for dance floors and parties, I use this version from the Funky Boyz

    Funky Boyz - Why Cant We Live Together (Housy Club Mix) - Free MP3 Stream on IMEEM Music

    I've done my own re-edit of this version.

    I've always meant to go back and lay Timmy Thomas' vocals over this.

    There is a version by someone named Alex, and I believe it is a "housey" version, but I've never heard it.

    I wish there was a good, "dancier" version of the original.

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    Re: Question: Do you prefer ''Why Can't Live Together'' by Timmy Thomas or Sade?

    I prefer Thomas' original. Sade has the kind of voice I only want to hear briefly. And by the way, I recently heard Steve Winwood do a nice cover of that song also.

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    Re: Question: Do you prefer ''Why Can't Live Together'' by Timmy Thomas or Sade?

    I thought it was such a great song, but I've heard it so many times it's worn out for me, and then I heard the LP. All the songs sound the SAME! Same organ and organ rhythm machine arrangements. They promoted the one song, but sadly the whole LP is almost redundant. I prefer the one he did in '74. It at least has a variety of sounds and is quite funky.

    I just listened to Sade's version on youtube, and it doesn't really sound any different from the original. Similar arrangement, except with a few extra instruments. Someone's gotta give it a beat or something! :)

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    Re: Question: Do you prefer ''Why Can't Live Together'' by Timmy Thomas or Sade?


     

     

    Timmy's of course. That Funky Synthesisor can't be beat!!! As a matter of fact, you can still Rock A Party with it!!!

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