drugs and disco

[The Boogie Doctor]

Hey

The topic of this forum is intended as a point of entry into a general discussion of drugs and disco. So, we could talk about disco trax that are drugged out, times that you've listened to disco drugged out, or perhaps debate whether being drugged out (on whatever substance) enhances the experience of aurally consuming disco or whether disco is best consumed straight. The track that got me thinking about this is "Chicago" by Roy Ayers, which is on his Lots of Love LP (1983) on Uno Melodic. It is a really heavy drugged out piece of disco.

Yours in friendship and disco music
The Boogie Doctor

[Thereza bizarre]

Personally drugs of the recreational kind don't have a part in my life and they never have, i don't drink iether, the vice i had was smoking 20 marlboro a a day, i was ostisized from my friends at the clubs for not doing what they did, but i am now in my mid 30s better lookin than they are, mentqally bright and sharpe with an exceptional memory and i have a ll theat i need. disco is best heard in "real" life with no drugs because nothing can prepare you for the real pwerful stimulation you sahll recieve on a disco track that bends your mind and body with out "help" any way drug taking is for the lack of other things in peoples lives lets face it i know none of us a perfect!.
but drugs no not unless youre doctor prescibes them lol....

[Videoskooter]

Personally drugs of the recreational kind don't have a part in my life and they never have, i don't drink iether, the vice i had was smoking 20 marlboro a a day, i was ostisized from my friends at the clubs for not doing what they did, but i am now in my mid 30s better lookin than they are, mentqally bright and sharpe with an exceptional memory and i have a ll theat i need. disco is best heard in "real" life with no drugs because nothing can prepare you for the real pwerful stimulation you sahll recieve on a disco track that bends your mind and body with out "help" any way drug taking is for the lack of other things in peoples lives lets face it i know none of us a perfect!.
but drugs no not unless youre doctor prescibes them lol....

That's my girl!!!! I never took 'em either and I don't do alcohol! So, Thereza when we will be married, we're not going to gangsterrap to eachother being drunk or stoned. We'll simply get high on l'amour

Now, to answer the good doctor's question: I never did drugs so I never experienced listening to Disco or other music while being under influence. I think the trippers are vastly overrating that experience. I remember George Martin (the famous producer) once say: I don't think drugs were a benefit for the Beatles, I even think that without the LSD they would have made even better records. IMO that sums it up!

Drugs suck, period! They don't give advantage, they simply ruïn your brain (proven fact). Every zip of alcohol kills an amount of braincells, and they don't regenerate! And after a while you start thinking that Madleen Kane is Marc Cerrone wearing a blonde wig!!!! I don't wanna go in that phase!!!!

But explain to me what a drugged out record is, please. I'm not familiar with that description. I'm Belgian, we get high on fries :icon_eek:

[The Boogie Doctor]

well, to me a 'drugged out' record is one that clearly manifests either the consumption of drugs in its production or that is directly targeted at dancers who are high; thus what I mean by the term is a 'druggy' aesthetic, basically a track that sounds pretty 'out there,' or 'twisted.' "Chicago" by Roy Ayers is a good example.

[Thereza bizarre]

Well mr scooter!, i believe your flirting with me lol, now whatwould you're Nicole say if she knew you wanted to marry a disco chic?....but yes i guess when were married well just have to get high on donna summer and some fizzy pop!

i get what he boogie doctor is saying but i think it is all subjective and we all have a way or a model of how the world is to each and every indivivdual.

i would say some sylvester tracks fit the remit, but i still wouldnt take a drug to get the effect it could have on me i dont even accept drinks from strangers, the last time i was in a night club was in 1998 i stopped because of drugs and vicious people i was also beaten by a bouncer for asking him to intervene in a horrible druggy fight betwwen two people i never even knew and i got liftedof the ground by this BIG man! and head butted in the skull and pubched in the stomach, it turned out that this lovely man who was paid for the privelage of looking after the patrons was in fact himself! high on drugs..... i never went out to a club again and i never shall because drugs are too much a parto f a destructive pattern in night clubs, i'd rather cook a meal put on some marsha ravenand chat to a friend all night long.......

[remicks]

Every zip of alcohol kills an amount of braincells, and they don't regenerate! And after a while you start thinking that Madleen Kane is Marc Cerrone wearing a blonde wig!!!! I don't wanna go in that phase!!!!

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There's an inference being made there that I DO NOT APPRECIATE AT ALL :icon_evil::icon_evil: :icon_evil: :icon_evil: :icon_evil: :icon_evil: :icon_evil:

As far as that Madleen Kane thread goes ...... I clearly had the name Cerrone in quotes ... implying I felt the music being discussed was of a "Cerrone" style ..... meaning that I felt that the Kane album perhaps had taken the "Cerrone" sound and elevated it in an even grander way than Cerrone himself. . Anyone that took it literally ... is missing a few brain cells themselves ......:icon_evil:

[Thereza bizarre]

I think you are replyin to the wrong thread ,we forgot that YOU think YOU are thee most DISTUTE music man on the boards bar Quinny, how dare you treat anybody in this crap manner you little man! who die and left you the whip love??? youre no better the only difference is the amount of time you spend here hissing and queanin about menas its obvious you have little going on outside bugger off... go away dear i can gold my own, i hate pigs like you.....you are now on the ignore list you twat.......

[remicks]

I think you are replyin to the wrong thread ,we forgot that YOU think YOU are thee most DISTUTE music man on the boards bar Quinny, how dare you treat anybody in this crap manner you little man! who die and left you the whip love??? youre no better the only difference is the amount of time you spend here hissing and queanin about menas its obvious you have little going on outside bugger off... go away dear i can gold my own, i hate pigs like you.....you are now on the ignore list you twat.......

Videoskooters comments .....were shocking and hurtful to me coming from him. Your's ..... well ....have a nice life .....

[QUINNY]

Looks like Thereza might be the second person to be banned from this site, following in the footsteps of Fantomass. :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:

Let me see now, how DO I hit that report infraction button?????:icon_lol:

[pepper1dancer]

Okay.....Sorry but when i was really young like 22 years old i had smoked a little something. i remember putting on Donna Summers Trilogy on the turn table with headphones and just floated away with it. I heard bells and moans i would've never heard before. I kept picking up the needle on the turntable and playing parts over and over. Dont look down on me, that was just the way it was for me. AND YES, I still look good and still like to dance though the smoke has been out of my life for over 20 years...........

[Videoskooter]

Videoskooters comments .....were shocking and hurtful to me coming from him

Remmy, who's leg are you pulling, since today you post this:"Anyway , Videoskooter renewed my interest in this LP and now what I find even more perplexing than Cerrone's name being no where to be found on this "Cerrone" project .... is the fact that Madleen Kane's name is !!!!"

So you finally realised that it was a joke that a guy called Remicks surely had to understand. Sometimes you have a very sarcastic way of posting too, so IMO, I thought you could handle this one!! BTW your name was not mentioned in the reply. Re-read your own thread about Kane and Cerrone and you'll notice that you're overdoing it there! That's what the joke was about and I'm sure everybody (the incrowd) got it, mmmh! OK, now you made the connection in this thread.

Thereza, Quinny wasn't in this topic so there was no need to insult him and there never is a reason to insult people on the board. If you hate somebody's posts, just use the ignore list. I never do but it's there if you want to use it!

Pepper1dancer, I don't look down on you my friend, you had some experiments and I'm not judging them. I only have a major problem with drugs, I've seen a few close people getting destroyed by 'em. There's a lot of people who take it a few times out of curiosity and then quit. But there's a whole lot that can't stop anymore and go for harder and harder stuff. That's always the problem with psychotropic substances.

Like the Boogie Doctor explains: there are records aimed at drug users and of course many recordings were made under the influence. Wasn't the early Pink Floyd a non-Disco example! What did it do to Syd Barett? Would they have made such legendary recordings BITD when they would have been sober all the time? We'll probably never know. Remember the quote by George Martin that I already gave!

Maybe we should continue debating this instead of hitting each other!

[markydefad]

OK, whose on drugs now??? This thread is trippin' me out!!! Wut the F**k??? It makes no sense.

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[Videoskooter]

Marky, usually the guys that say "Wut" a lot! (IT'S A JOKE-IT'S A JOKE)

Read the second part of this interview with Taana Gardner that has some of the drugs and Disco relation:

Taana Gardner @ Disco-Disco.com

[Bernie]

Thereza,

This is completely uncalled for behavior. Although you are a new member and we welcome your participation, being insulting and rude is not allowed here and will not be tolerated. I expect you to do the right thing and apologize to Quinny and Remicks whom you insulted in your tirade.

I think you are replyin to the wrong thread ,we forgot that YOU think YOU are thee most DISTUTE music man on the boards bar Quinny, how dare you treat anybody in this crap manner you little man! who die and left you the whip love??? youre no better the only difference is the amount of time you spend here hissing and queanin about menas its obvious you have little going on outside bugger off... go away dear i can gold my own, i hate pigs like you.....you are now on the ignore list you twat.......

[qdearl]

:icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: Wow.....

see how much destruction drugs have caused in this thread, (without even being consumed:icon_lol: )
Geez people, Take a chill pill, no....wait...Don't do that

Take a deep breath, it's just text.

Me, I'm proud to say, have never had the urge to try any drugs, and except for the occassional alcoholic beverage at a club or social function, never felt the need to keep up with my friends or associates when it moved from wine coolers to marajuana, etc. Hell, I've never even smoked a cigarette before, despite having parents that smoked.
But, I'd be lying if I said I didn't think that being under the influence doesn't impact a person creatively, I've written song lyrics and DJ'ed while a little tipsy before and did a good job, but this was the exception not the rule for me
Though I doubt very seriously if I could draw well while my head was swirling,:icon_lol: which is probably why I don't have issues with drug abuse, I like being able to be creative too much to jeopardize impairing my ability to do so by using drugs.

I honestly get a huge rush from spinning a song I like, listening to a track I've composed or viewing a drawing I've finished, more than any drug would give me.

Creativity is better than sex......

[KoolChris]

I'm pretty surprised everybody's always been and is so clean on this board... which is good!..but surprising.

An occasional social drinker, I've tried other substances as well, although I've never smoked cigarettes (hate the stench).
Obviously, being totally wasted is no means of enhancement of the senses, I can only agree with that.
However, I have held parties with like-minded people, U.I, and actually tripped on a sound/instrument in a track that I thought I knew pretty well,
but I'd never obviously paid close enough attention to before, and that all of a sudden became overwhelming... Some tracks turned from so-so to great after such experiences, and retained that status well after sobriety had kicked in.

Remember that repetitive sounds (as in contemporary musical creations, especially dance music) are meant to induce a semi-trance. Primary African and South-American tribes have used percussions for ages, to put them in a state prone to making contact with "the gods", often with the help of coca leaves, mushrooms, etc... That's an enhanced version of the state you're in when "you boogie to the floor 'til you don't care no more"... An actual state you can easily attain if in the right mood, loose enough, and not necessarily with the help of chemicals... although they certainly ease you down that road.

So yes, I beleive there's a true correlation between some fantastically inspired tracks and artificial mood setters. And although this will not be a popular statement, said mood setters also influence the recieving end of these tracks.

[Videoskooter]

Have you guys ever experienced what's called a "dopamine rush". Quite natural, but be careful. You know when you stay awake for 36-48 hours and then, BAM, flash, all your senses explode.

I have, after working 2 days in a row once and then going to a club whilst trying to impress some girl with da real macho-attitude! It's amazing (but very tiring afterwards and not that healthy for your cardio-vascular system) and you really hear different sounds in a familiar record.

Maybe that can be compared with taking real drugs and their effect on music.

[marmite7]

Drugs have been a part of club culture for so long they're rather passe now, but OMG when you find the right one for you, the music you thought you loved, suddenly got a whole lot better

I had my ears opened (and the third eye) at a rave in copenhagen, but it wasn't till I did my first ecstacy, did music make pure sense. I could feel it inside out, my hands moved involuntary and I danced all night with the biggest smile on face, matching everyone around me.

I'd listened to Kraftwerk's Autobhan straight, then a year later tried it again after a rather large spliff.............man that was mad. And better

Certain drugs DO lend themselves to certain music, as on one occasion on mdma I listened to Pachelbel's Canon and cried with the sheer beauty of it.

Mind you, I bawled me eyes out when Tori Amos - Professional Widow remix got dropped at a club and the breakdown rippd me heart to pieces - in a good way obviously.

Ripple' The Beat Goes On really captures the same feel, as did Rose Royce's R R Express. Perfect music, just made, er, more perfect.

Nowt wrong with that.

[marmite7]

My only gripe is being judged by people who have never tried a drug, yet somehow feel morally superior and tell you it's wrong....why how would you know?


And if someones wants to trott out the statistics of people dying, mental illness or doing something dangerous, well...............considered how many thousands of pills are dropped each Fri & Sat then compare it as a %. It's unfortunate, but neglible.

More chance of something bad happening whilst you're driving!!

Use them, don't let them use you. Either you have an addictive nature or you don't - that's human nature.

[marmite7]

Okay.....Sorry but when i was really young like 22 years old i had smoked a little something. i remember putting on Donna Summers Trilogy on the turn table with headphones and just floated away with it. I heard bells and moans i would've never heard before. I kept picking up the needle on the turntable and playing parts over and over. Dont look down on me, that was just the way it was for me. AND YES, I still look good and still like to dance though the smoke has been out of my life for over 20 years...........

Society has made you feel the need to apologies for your behaviour and it shouldn't. We all make life choices personal to us as individuals and I say....stuff the rest. I'm not harming anybody else and in the process having a FABULOUS time - thank you :icon_lol: