Two Love and Kisses songs step by step

[Marcio**]

:icon_razz: An admirable and fascinating job !!!




"Accidental Lover"

00:00 We begin with the inevitable thumping of a metronomic 4/4 electro-drum beat, with the string section alternating back and forth between two notes.
00:29 The vocals kick in — something about an "accidental lover," of all things. The singers are a chorus of sassy soul sistahs, and not very tuneful ones, at that. "Don't wanna love you... don't wanna love you..."
01:30 Modulation! And french horn.
01:44 "Don't wanna love you... don't wanna love you..."
02:11 Modulation! Soul sistah chatting instead of singing. "Get your hand off my knee!"
03:40 Cowbell, more cowbell! Strings swirling around and even some flute. Shaft-y wah wah guitars. Soul sistah makes heavily reverbed erotic sounds.
06:20 Harp arpeggio, soul sistah says, in breathy voice, "Don't wanna love you." Then sings "Don't wanna love you..."
07:05 Back where we started. "Accidental lover..." except now it's "You know I love you... you know I love you..." Way to go, "accidental lover" guy.
07:30 Orgasmic female noises again, with some trumpet soloing.
08:30 "You know I love you... you know I love you..."
09:15 Getting a lot of mileage out of those two string notes, a string section solo, of sorts.
10:22 Sax solo. It ain't Stan Getz, but it ain't bad.
10:45 "Do you really have to go?" Whoa, the metronomic beat is getting all syncopated on us.
11:15 Modulation! Male lead vocal -- this must be the "accidental lover" himself! "It's just a dream that I'm leaving behind."
12:00 And back to the beginning again. "Accidental lover..." but the bass is jammin' pretty hard here, and the strings are digging in too. "I wanna love you" is the situation now.
13:00 "I wanna love you... I wanna love you..."
13:17 Literally back to 00:00 with the metronome beat and two string notes. "Accidental lover put a name on your face... accidental lover there's a time and a place..." or something.
14:00 "Don't wanna love you" again. You blew it, "accidental lover" guy.
15:00 Fading out just as the brass section kicks in — no, don't stop now! It's just starting to grow on me.
15:50 "Don't wanna love you .... Don't wanna love you...." [fade out]




"I Found Love (Now That I've Found You)"

00:00 That 4/4 metronome beat again in the same tempo as "Accidental Lover" I swear! Four piano chords this time, though.
00:15 Whoa, harp action and synth harp, too.
00:20 It's those sassy soul sistahs again with the vocals, and yes, you guessed it: "I found love now that I've found you"
01:25 Major brass hits and harp again.
01:43 Male lead vocal dude, "I found love now that I've found you..." Seriously reverbed and echoed.
02:11 Something resembling a verse. "I love you, I love you more than love can say... You're my rainbow's end..." etc.
03:00 Soul sistahs: "I found love..." etc.
03:50 Back to square one, with cowbell. More cowbell!
04:07 No wait, major instrumental percussion break situation, timbales, bongos, repeated string riff, turn on the strobe light.
05:15 And on and on it goes.
05:45 Some kind of weird Residents-ish distorted vocals in the mix here??? Backmasking perhaps?
06:25 And on and on it goes.
06:51 Drum fill-o-rama with soul claps (sort of).
07:28 A little harp action as we continue to aimlessly wander in "instrumental break" land.
07:49 Synth solo with something resembling a melody.
08:14 Guy and gal duet — singing, of course, "I found love now that I've found you..."
08:50 Modulation to something seemingly unrelated but sorta jammin' — synth-tambourine action with strings noodling around. Weird.
09:55 Synth and strings finding that melody again.
10:30 Whoa — the beat is syncopated, the dissonance is building.
10:48 And right back to 00:00 with the piano and 4/4 beat and harp glissandi.
11:23 And the soul sistahs — "I've found love now that I've found you..." — a little improv in there, this time.
11:58 Male lead vocal dude with "I've found you... I've found you... I've found you" counterpoint.
12:23 And he's back in full force now. "I love you. I love you more than words can say..."
13:30 "You're that distant dream... You're my secret wish... You're my rainbow's end every time I see you..." etc. Deep stuff.
14:20 The inevitable fade out beings. "I've found love now that I've found you..."
14:45 Wait! What the ****! Spooky Miles Davis-ish demonic spoken voice says "and I suppose you thought it was all over. No no no no no..." followed by giggles from the band?
15:00 "I found love... now that I've found you" with sax soloing.
16:00 [fade out] for real this time.





from
Music Review: Love and Kisses @ Blogcritics.org

[BrunoRepublic]

:icon_razz: An admirable and fascinating job !!!




"Accidental Lover"

00:00 We begin with the inevitable thumping of a metronomic 4/4 electro-drum beat, with the string section alternating back and forth between two notes.

Obviously taken from the American version of the album, which (like Cerrone's "Love In C Minor") is missing the intro dialog.

[tmob]

Obviously taken from the American version of the album, which (like Cerrone's "Love In C Minor") is missing the intro dialog.

At least some of the early U.S. "Love in C Minor" test pressings had the 16:20 version, with the long spoken intro:

http://www.discomusic.com/records-more/8584_0_2_0_C/

[remicks]

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I am curious about this part of the song.....

14:45 Wait! What the ? Spooky Miles Davis-ish demonic spoken voice says "and I suppose you thought it was all over. No no no no no..." followed by giggles from the band?

....... haven't played it in a long time ... so don't recall that.... or how it fits in there ?

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[BrunoRepublic]

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I am curious about this part of the song............ haven't played it in a long time ... so don't recall that.... or how it fits in there ?

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Simple. The song fades out, and you think that the record is over, and then you hear that voice, and the chorus kicks in again, this time with a sax on top.

[BrunoRepublic]

At least some of the early U.S. "Love in C Minor" test pressings had the 16:20 version, with the long spoken intro:

http://www.discomusic.com/records-more/8584_0_2_0_C/

Well, perhaps. But if the full version was never commercially released in the USA at the time, it doesn't really count, does it?

[Mixmachine]

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I am curious about this part of the song............ haven't played it in a long time ... so don't recall that.... or how it fits in there ?

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after the songs fades out it just picks up again for a few more minutes with the sax, I never remember either until a few years back, never played this all the way through BITD.

I'm not a musician, so I don't easily pick up on what he refers to as "dissonance" and such, the author here went through the trouble of dissecting the songs and then describing them in a mocking way, even though he then goes on to praise the recordings at the end of the review .Weird !

One thing today’s young reviewer/listeners should keep in mind is that this kind of music was better suited for “Discos” with their loud systems (this recording quality was superb back in the day) and dancing, listening to this stuff at home, especially today after all this years (unless you are a die-hard fan) without all the extra sensory stimulation of a club setting can get a bit boring and it is just not the same, even back then--after the initial novelty of this sound faded—using about 4 minutes of “I found love” was more than enough for most dance floors before moving on, many times I used to cue this record starting at the 4:07 break and faded out before the vocals kicked in again, one thing is for sure, this records at the time were great for Djs to do their thing.

“Accidental Lover” was overshadowed by “I found love” and was hardly used in clubs I remember.

[remicks]

One thing today’s young reviewer/listeners should keep in mind is that this kind of music was better suited for “Discos” with their loud systems (this recording quality was superb back in the day) and dancing, listening to this stuff at home, especially today after all this years (unless you are a die-hard fan) without all the extra sensory stimulation of a club setting can get a bit boring and it is just not the same, even back then--after the initial novelty of this sound faded—using about 4 minutes of “I found love” was more than enough for most dance floors before moving on, many times I used to cue this record starting at the 4:07 break and faded out before the vocals kicked in again, one thing is for sure, this records at the time were great for Djs to do their thing.

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Dissecting any music ... any song .....can seem to minimize it ... they are after all, ALL just calculated mathematical progressions/arrangements of the same limited number of basic notes ...

Disco was a purposeful music with one goal in mind : to sound good when played loud in such a way to get you off your ass .... Songs that did that were only effective as such for a limited time and then it was on to the next . I don't think any other musical following ever had as voracious an appetite for the "next big one" of which disco succeeded in steadily supplying time after time . We literally had armfuls of records all waiting their turn to be debuted. What an exciting time to be into music .

Enjoy your posts Mixmachine.


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[SandraDee]

What an exciting time to be into music .




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I quite agree. I feel sorry for kids these days.:icon_sad:

[SandraDee]

:icon_cool:

[SandraDee]

:icon_razz: a chorus of sassy soul sistahs

Much as I absolutely love Alec's pure disco sound I would never describe the singers as soul sistahs. They have more of a glamorous, glossy, anonymous sound I feel, rather than a soulful/sassy style.:icon_confused: :icon_cool:

[SandraDee]

Obviously taken from the American version of the album, which (like Cerrone's "Love In C Minor") is missing the intro dialog.

Graham, I've got a French copy on the 'Barclay/rei-vera' label & the spoken intro is still missing. The time is listed on the label as 17.20 but I'm sure it's shorter!

[BrunoRepublic]

Graham, I've got a French copy on the 'Barclay/rei-vera' label & the spoken intro is still missing. The time is listed on the label as 17.20 but I'm sure it's shorter!

How tragic! I've got a Rei-Vera copy (I think it's a UK pressing), and not only does it have the intro, but it sounds great. Excellent mastering.

[remicks]

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One thing today’s young reviewer/listeners should keep in mind is that this kind of music was better suited for “Discos” with their loud systems (this recording quality was superb back in the day) and dancing, listening to this stuff at home, especially today after all this years (unless you are a die-hard fan) without all the extra sensory stimulation of a club setting can get a bit boring and it is just not the same, even back then--after the initial novelty of this sound faded—using about 4 minutes of “I found love” was more than enough for most dance floors before moving on, many times I used to cue this record starting at the 4:07 break and faded out before the vocals kicked in again, one thing is for sure, this records at the time were great for Djs to do their thing.

These looong songs were very tricky . An unknown song played too long can easily clear the floor ...
....a too well known long song can also clear the floor "oh no ,I 'm not going to dance to this again for fifteen minutes ! "

There was a brief period in a song's life when it was peaking that the crowd wanted every possible second of the song to play ... but this period of reception never lasted very long .... two or three weeks ....

“Accidental Lover” was overshadowed by “I found love” and was hardly used in clubs I remember.

Makes you wonder sometimes if all disco songs should have been released one 12" at a time .... never in album form /never in combination .... how many secondaires got lost as such .... just because the standout song got all the play ....

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[FlyRobinFly]

Agreed. Since I still do a lot of dancing, there are songs that I absolutely will not get up and dance to unless I know I've got the 15 minute energy to do so. ( and my partner does too!!) :) Otherwise, we both end up walking off the dance floor. I did this just last week to Marvin's "Got to Give it Up".

[STEPHEN L FREEMAN]

[QUOTE=Marcio**;116803]:icon_razz: An admirable and fascinating job !!!

Spending that much time to dissect a track, only to trash it, is hardly "admirable". Actually, it's an anal-retentive bitch-fest, that is chock-full of inaccuracies. And, why is it those who post these nonsensical diatribes, can't even get the lyrics right??

As for the constant mention of Disco's 4/4 time signature, as a negative trait... Probably 90% of all recorded music, EVER, has been in 4/4 time! All Disco does, is bring the Conductor's baton to the front of the mix.

And, for those who actually WEREN'T there... The 1st Love & Kisses release (No, NOT "Love In C Minor". Which seems to be the case with selective memory...) was the strongest commercial catapult of the French Disco sound. Dragging US Disco out of it's High-Hat/Snare foundation, that it had been so firmly entrenched in for the 3 to 4 years prior. And without which, labels may not have taken a chance on Producers like Boris Midney, John Ferrara, Simon Soussan, etc...

[billy huls]

thanks for the step by step. may i ask you to post the lyrics to these two songs. i have both the album and the 45 single. i need the words to "accidental lover" mostly. can you help. thanks. i would like to know is that alec costandinos on the lead vocals of "i found love now that ive found you". im not sure who it is. thanks.

[STEPHEN L FREEMAN]

may i ask you to post the lyrics to these two songs? i need the words to "accidental lover" mostly. i would like to know is that alec costandinos on the lead vocals of "i found love now that ive found you". im not sure who it is. thanks.

Yes, it's Alec doing the lead on "I've Found Love..." He's also the voice of 'Alfred', on "Accidental Lover".

The Japanese promo copy has the lyrics on the inner sleeve. I can post them tonight, when I'm back home.