Favorite Sleaze Song

**nrgbeat** · November 18th, 2002, 06:12 PM

Pick your favorite sleaze song.

**markydefad** · November 18th, 2002, 06:26 PM

I love Agnetha and Bionic Boogie and like the rest..BUT my fave is "Loving You, Losing You" by Miss Phyllis Hyman. That looooooong instrumental opening that screams of Thom Bell, is just to die for....it slowly repeats the vamp over and over, adding instrumentation and eventually background singers in a heralding build-up....."Da-dahhhhhh, da-dahhhhhhh, daaaaaa.".. ....I can feel a pinspot hitting Phyllis and she starts..."In the middle of my life...". I get chills.

**nrgbeat** · November 18th, 2002, 06:31 PM

I thought you'd pick Enema Man. He's a sleaze of a different sort.

**Outsider** · November 18th, 2002, 06:38 PM

My sleaze pick is "Hot Butterfly". :evil:

**NickNack** · November 18th, 2002, 07:50 PM

This was hard :x (thank god the list was short) but I went with Jean Carn over Phyllis Hyman. Of course, ask me tomorrow... :D

That sax intro which you can use or skip, that Philly sound just going oh-so smooooth and Jean --- what can I say. When they go through that little instrumental bridge in the middle and she comes back in with that scream... as my father used to say, "Lord, have mercy!" :lol: Her love may not have come easy but I bet there were a lot of men (and women

) begging. :)

**paul** · November 19th, 2002, 12:59 AM

I know we've been through this but I need a clear standard here. Nicky, you're the best person to answer this :D
How would you define sleaze?

**DeepBeat** · November 19th, 2002, 01:52 AM

Sleaze song? Well I don't know about that, but I do know that my favorite from the list is definitely Jean Carne's My Love Don't Come Easy...*sigh*

**NickNack** · November 19th, 2002, 05:00 PM

Originally Written by paul

I know we've been through this but I need a clear standard here. Nicky, you're the best person to answer this :D
How would you define sleaze?

Don't know if I'm the best person but here's what sleaze is to me.

First, the terms 'morning music' (from our California Boyz :) ) and 'sleaze' (we East Coasters) are, I've discovered, the same. It's the music dj's would play, mainly in after hours clubs, after a long, hard night of uptempo dance. 99% of the time the beat (yes, those dreadful bpm's :roll: ) was anywhere between 90 and 118. The music was meant to be, if nothing else, sexy. The tempo automatically had you dancing closer to whomever you were with at the time. The main point is that it sounded so good you wouldn't go home, even though the change was drastic from what was happening earlier on. It got into you.

Don't think of 'sleaze' as sleazy. Far from it. It was just the word picked up on in New York because 'sleaze' could, or should, make you do things you know you shouldn't.

When you're somewhere you dont' belong, well, you're being sleazy.

A lot of 'sleaze' in the New York gay clubs was 'pretty' music --- like Agneatha, or Viola Wills Somebody's Eyes. But you could run with it anywhere --- Isaac Hayes Menage a Trois, Herb Alpert's Rise, Imagination's Illusion, Technique's (Looking for Someone to Love) Tonight. It all worked. What 'sleaze' was NOT was hard-edged funk. Just because a record fell into the 90 - 118 range didn't make it 'sleaze'. It had to have that "all right, baby" attitude or it just wasn't working.

Playing 'sleaze' was a pride-thing in New York. Many dj's tried and failed. When you're playing in the 120 bpm's and up, the crowd will hang with you. They're pumped. This is why they came out in the first place. But now, ****, it's seven in the morning, they're not as pumped but still buzzed. It then becomes "What can you show me?" That's what they're asking and expecting from the dj. "You've danced it all out of me, now make me hang around another 2 or 3 hours with something nice." DJ's could make or break a rep on 'sleaze'. Lucky for me I got into 'sleaze' big time and people would come to The Anvil to hear it.

Hope I answered your question. I think this might give it to you: I put you and Selma on a crowded, low-lit dancefloor and play Kiss You All Over by Phyllis Hyman. That is SLEAZE, brother man. :D

**markydefad** · November 19th, 2002, 05:32 PM

Oh Nicky,

I loves it when you talk sleaze!!!!!

You describe it sooooo perfectly, I wish I coulda been there.

**DISCODISK** · November 19th, 2002, 05:36 PM

NRGBEAT ive gone for PHYLLIS HYMAN too but it is hard to see LAMONT DOZIER 'out there on his own' with no votes yet :cry:

**NickNack** · November 19th, 2002, 07:05 PM

Originally Written by DISCODISK

NRGBEAT ive gone for PHYLLIS HYMAN too but it is hard to see LAMONT DOZIER 'out there on his own' with no votes yet :cry:

It is odd, especially knowing that both the Lamont and Buddy Miles songs are considered sleaze classics by many.

**NickNack** · November 19th, 2002, 07:08 PM

Originally Written by markydefad

Oh Nicky,

I loves it when you talk sleaze!!!!!

You describe it sooooo perfectly, I wish I coulda been there.

A 'morning' man... don't I love it! :D

**paul** · November 19th, 2002, 08:01 PM

Originally Written by NickNack

Originally Written by paul

I know we've been through this but I need a clear standard here. Nicky, you're the best person to answer this :D
How would you define sleaze?

Hope I answered your question. I think this might give it to you: I put you and Selma on a crowded, low-lit dancefloor and play Kiss You All Over by Phyllis Hyman. That is SLEAZE, brother man. :D

Thanks Nicky.
So if I get you right "Do It To The Music" is a candidate for sleaze.
By the way it's Salma, not that town in Alabama. Lucky for you I caught before Boodi saw this. She is not as forgiving as I am :)

**sfbeary** · November 19th, 2002, 10:35 PM

why can't i vote for all six?!

**NickNack** · November 20th, 2002, 11:58 AM

Originally Written by paul

Thanks Nicky.
So if I get you right "Do It To The Music" is a candidate for sleaze.

Oh, yes. But it's also the sort of song that can be used earlier in the evening as just low-energy dance. Something to build on. Depens on what mood the dj's in.

By the way it's Salma, not that town in Alabama. Lucky for you I caught before Boodi saw this. She is not as forgiving as I am :)

You know, I wrote 'Salma' and then said, that doesn't look right. Mea Culpa. Goddess --- don't hurt me.

**Behind Mars** · November 20th, 2002, 05:42 PM

Afterhours, Sleaze and Morning Music can be described by the word "Sultry".

Sleaze is to intermingle with "others" on the dance floor (not just the person you are with).

Villiage People "Five O' Clock in the Morning"
Bob-A-Rella "Stop" (popper time :lol: )
Don Ray "Body and Soul"
Risque' "Starlight"

Rene & Angela "I Love You More" (funk)
Stanley Clarke & Howard Hewett "Heaven Sent" (funk)

Nicknack and Markydefad "you two" are a hoot :D

**markydefad** · November 21st, 2002, 02:51 AM

Originally Written by Behind Mars

Afterhours, Sleaze and Morning Music can be described by the word "Sultry".

Nicknack and Markydefad "you two" are a hoot :D

Why thanks ""Behind Mars". Where exactly on the "west coast" are you??? Hmmmmm???? Ya see Nicky and I experienced "SLEAZE" on different coasts: Nicky in NYC and me in SF. I just wish I coulda spent a few mornings at the Anvil with Nicky manning the wheels of steel.

BTW, I still loves me some poppers...er, make that video head cleaner... or, uh, uh.....leather stripper, yeah that's the ticket!!!! :lol: