If you had a wish song to be converted into modern house...

[Funkaddict]

If you had a wish song to be converted into (good) modern house...

... which disco track would it be?

[QUINNY]

If you had a wish song to be converted into (good) modern house...

... which disco track would it be?

Are you fishing for ideas?

Although I'm excited by the prospect of an old classic being revived by this method and possibly gaining a few fans it never previously had, I do wish that modern producers would come up with their own riffs and hooks. That could be even more exciting...........or not.

O.K. I'd love to see Gene Dozier & the United Front's - Give The Women What They Want incoporated into something, especially the rapid fire wah wah guitar intro. I've messed around with sampling that and speeding it up on my double CD player and it's interesting, to say the least.

Another one that's got the potential (and I think may have already been used) is Oliver Sain's - Bus Stop. This has soooo many elements, I'd have thought it's a sampler's dream.

[Paulo]

If you had a wish song to be converted into (good) modern house... ... which disco track would it be?

Does house still exist??
It vanished from night-clubs here in Rio in favour of indie rock, hip-hop/rap, awful domestic funk/rap and pagode (a type of samba).

There were 2 very good dance-stores in Copacabana (FLASH and WORLD MUSIC) which unfortunately closed the doors recently. They sold new releases, 12 inches and some old stuff. In the 90's there were hundreds of those stores.

Even the megastores MODERN SOUND, SARAIVA and FNAC have reduced drastically their dance/house/techno section.

The lounge/chill-out is almost gone.

[musiquelover]

If you had a wish song to be converted into (good) modern house...

... which disco track would it be?

I probably wouldn't wish for any disco song to be redone because
a) it wouldn't be anything new and
b) only in the best-case scenario would it probably be as good as the original. At worst it's just streamlined, soulless house with a heavier bass drum.

Does house still exist??

Yes, al least there's still new releases coming out.

[passaro]

none.

disco is fine as it is, perhaps a little re editing and remastering for todays soundsystems would be fine, unless your playing on a rig designed for 70s and 80s records. new disco is still being made. check Flexx Mail Order - Record Shop - Electro, Disco, Italo, House, Techno, Cosmic, Balearic, Edits online store

house was good until the mid 90s when the disco filter house **** was a craze, and every lame us vocalist was singing cover versions of disco songs.. whats the matter? imagination and lyrics died with disco too? house was good 88->92 especially chicago and new york classic garage.

i.e frankie knuckles, steve silk hurley, timmy regisford, boyd jarvis, robert owens, colonel abrhams, blaze, smack productions, paul simpson, mr fingers, jamie principle, trax records, island records, dj international etc.

[BJ Foys]

I disagree with that. That classic house era gave us some top records but to say there's no good house today just ain't true. Metro area and Lindstrom for example make quality modern day electronic disco music. I hate to say the next name cos it is a total cliche but Moodyman does make pretty interesting house records. I agree that there's a load of shite commercial house though - having said that there was a load of shite commercial disco.

[passaro]

lindstrom and metro area aren't house music. hans peter did house/crossover music under the name "slow supreme" circa 2001. you should see that i already know about this music giving a link to FLEXX records in my previous post. there is good house music from 90->now but its in drips and drabs. the era's i mentioned were in my own opinion the golden eras for house music.

[tony98]

There are some good current House records around but the current House sound is a heavy bass electronic production. House really peaked about 1997. In the 90's you lots of great vocal stuff which borrowed heavily of Disco. As for having a favourite song given a house treatment it's already been done with "Bourgie Bourgie " "It Seem To Hang On" "I feel Love" "Get Another Love" & "Caught Up In A One Night Love Affair".

[FranceJoliFan]

"Boogie Down And Mess Around" by Blackwell

I agree with the other posters. I don't like to hear the original arrangements stripped out of vintage tracks. And I'm tired of uninspired remakes. But there are some older tunes that have a "muddy" sound. And it would be interesting to hear them freshened up.

I always liked/hated this Blackwell song. It was sluggish. The lyrics were silly. Yet the vocals were fun to listen to, especially the verses. The chorus was out of control (yet memorable.) So I wouldn't have any qualms about a "Boogie Down And Mess Around" makeover. It could breathe new life into the song.

So I would save the house remixes for the marginal songs. But don't go overboard.

[discokicks]

I've always wished for a good soulful, dance cover or solid remix of Booker T and MGs Time Is Tight. The subtle energy of this song builds so nicely that I could see it filling a dancefloor and slowly create that quiet excitement that a good dance instrumental can do.

[BJ Foys]

lindstrom and metro area aren't house music. hans peter did house/crossover music under the name "slow supreme" circa 2001. you should see that i already know about this music giving a link to FLEXX records in my previous post. there is good house music from 90->now but its in drips and drabs. the era's i mentioned were in my own opinion the golden eras for house music.

Sorry Passaro - I wasn't questioning your house music knowledge, just wanted to see you're opinion on this new stuff.(i'd still class it as house)
I think if you are going to remake an old track you should leave the classics alone. Whats the point of making a new version unless its better than the original and if you try and remake genius then its not going to be.

Most DJs are lazy and would rather play quantised new versions cos of thier obsession with mixing. However, top class jocks like Chris Dukinfield will quite easily mix in old disco.

There is alot of naff disco out their however, and the true test is to take a sample from a crap record and make it into a gem.

That said, The Buckethead's Bomb from Streetplayer is a work of genius. Before the whole disco house thing took off and evolved into cheap funky house, the remakes were just a nod to the music from which house came, and thats fair play I think. Its pretty much the whole hip hop sampling soul debate but for disco and house.

[Nano]

I've always wished for a good soulful, dance cover or solid remix of Booker T and MGs Time Is Tight. The subtle energy of this song builds so nicely that I could see it filling a dancefloor and slowly create that quiet excitement that a good dance instrumental can do.

This has nothing to do with this thread (sorry ), but I have a bootleg DVD with snippets of Creedence Clearwater Revival in concert BITD. The best segment is an American TV special about them with interviews and a stadium concert in 1970. Now hear this: the opening act -completely unbeknownst to me when I found the DVD- were Booker T. & The MG's! They talk a bit, do a short studio jam with John Fogerty and play one entire song from the concert with the Creedence guys spying from behind the curtain (which just fits, because Creedence got so much of a groove in their rhythm section). The song is "Time is tight" and they're brilliant!

Did you know The Clash recorded a version? It's in his B-sides album, I think it's Black Market Clash.

[discokicks]

This has nothing to do with this thread (sorry ), but I have a bootleg DVD with snippets of Creedence Clearwater Revival in concert BITD. The best segment is an American TV special about them with interviews and a stadium concert in 1970. Now hear this: the opening act -completely unbeknownst to me when I found the DVD- were Booker T. & The MG's! They talk a bit, do a short studio jam with John Fogerty and play one entire song from the concert with the Creedence guys spying from behind the curtain (which just fits, because Creedence got so much of a groove in their rhythm section). The song is "Time is tight" and they're brilliant!

Did you know The Clash recorded a version? It's in his B-sides album, I think it's Black Market Clash.

Interesting....I would never have thought of The Clash covering the song. Thanks for the info Nano.

[ALBATROS]

I agree 100% with Passaro. What is today remained from music that was
coined "House", is mostly metronomic stripped-down electronic -do it yourself-
garbage IMO. Especially those Rip-offs ( quasi Disco-House ) with moronic ad nauseam repeating of sampled riffs and phrases. However, there are still good new dance tracks around. Anyone considering "remixing" of an old disco music is most probably searching for cheap way to achieve a litlle bit of fame trough abuse of some old, well proved grooves. Sorry, you better make some good ORIGINAL music instead. This music all sounds the same to me - all synth beats with some conga percussion and hissing hi-hats, everything underlined
with some sampled bass line. Please - and it is all formulaic made with some 128 to 130 BPM - alowing every DJ to perfect beat match without big effort...
Where is all funkiness gone?
Here some of old Disco/Garage classics, that I consider goood dance muzac;

Barbara Roy - Gotta see you tonight (12" dub version)
Nu Shooz - I can't wait 12"
Fantasy - You're too late 12"
Janice Christie - Heat Stroke 12"
Gino Soccio - Try it out 12"
Suzy Q - Get on up and do it again 12"
Gene Dunlap - Take my love
Juggy Jones - Inside America 12"
Anikana O - Kongas ( Tom Moulton 12" mix)
Pennye Ford - Change Your wicked ways 12"
Don Armandos - Deputy of love 12"
Surface - Falling in love 12"
Komikko - Feel alright 12"
Taana Gardner - Heartbeat 12"
Loose Joints - Is it all over my face 12"
Gwen Guthrie - Padlock
Gwen Guthrie - It should have been You 12"
Candido - Jingo
Nuance feat Vikki - Love ride 12"
Melba Moore - Love's comin' At Ya
Inner Life - Moment of My Life 12"
Loleatta Holloway - We're getting Stronger ( The longer we stay together)
:icon_biggrin:

...and whole bunch of others from the era. Diversity, Funkiness, Soulfulness - THAT is feeling that makes me groove !

ALBATROS

[Paulo]

I agree 100% with Passaro. What is today remained from music that was coined "House", is mostly metronomic stripped-down electronic-do it yourself-garbage....

I don't agree.
I just bought Danny Krivit's Defected In The House and it is not like that at all.
The music is HOUSE (of course) and apart from some songs from the classic era, all the others are new (from 2004 onwards)... they are very well played with a lot of piano, keyboards, sax, brass arrangements, very good vocals...
...not that computer-looped-thing repeated to death.

In the same vein is Dimitri From Paris' IN THE HOUSE OF LOVE. Apart from the excelent 70's DISCO tracks, the HOUSE tracks are outstanding.

What I like about Danny and Dimitri is that they usually never pick up the metronomic-electronic-garbage.

[marmite7]

No need to re-do a disco classic in a House stylee, when you can pick up a copy of Bob Sinclar III and have funky filtered French disco Vs house on tap


But if you twist my arm I'd say put some more bass into Tony Cook & The Party People - On The Floor (Rock It), lose the "hamster" oohs & arrhs and replace with a 303 :icon_razz:


There's been some mighty fine remakes actually, he says, thinking of Todd Terry's Weekend & Keep On Jumpin or Stars on 54 - If You could Read My Mind.


And not forgetting the beefed up remix of First Choice - Let No Man.....which was just awesome :icon_lol:



Favourite cover version anyone?

Saint Esmerelda - Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood?
Bonnie Pointer - Heaven Musta Sent You?
Thelma Houston - Don't Leave Me This Way?
Gloria Gaynor - Never Can Say Goodbye?

??

[ALBATROS]

Paulo,

Yes indeed, Danny Krivit and Dimitri always showcase some exeptional taste
in music selection. However, in virtually all clubs here where I came from, it is
almost impossible to hear anything under 128 Bpm, and all production is very
"electronic" - copy paste - looped ****. Of course it is generation issue also.
Krivit and Dimitri together with some other boys are members of so called
"old school" and theirs music knowledge surpasses that of most young Dee -Jays. Whenever I play, I always mix old classics with newer music ( call it House if you will...), but as the time goes by, I find it increasingly difficult to appeal to younger crowd. They expect from D.J. to play "hard" agressive dance music, without any vocals, without soul... They don't care and are not interested in "classics" or whatever. Sad. Recently I have been in club listening to some young D.J. playing what is called " Electro" - mostly
80's electro funk sounds "stolen" and used in some new arrangements...
O my, o my... What is this ??? Mostly basslines with beat and nothing on the top. Very fast, very mechanic, soulless, monotonic...
Yes, there are some good music still produced, but the amount of **** is much bigger and the latter is somehow become a "standard" for modern "trendy" production.

Albatros

[deltablues2]

Right Back Where We Started From.

[Paulo]

...However, in virtually all clubs here where I came from, it is almost impossible to hear anything under 128 Bpm, and all production is very "electronic"-copy paste-looped ****.

That's probably happening around the world. The same thing happened here:

Rock night-clubs (like Bunker) only play 90's and 2000's indie-rock.

Cheaper commercial popular venues for the masses play only brazilian samba (pagode) and lots of brazilian hip-hop.

Cheaper gay night-clubs also play pagode and the awful brazilian rap... but even in these days, they still play the latest euro-dance tracks. But euro-dance is considered cheap, commercial, shallow, silly and cheesy... and... to speak frankly... indeed it is.

More expensive gay clubs (like Le Boy) play what you called electronic-copy-paste-looped-**** with basslines and beat and nothing on the top. Fast, mechanic, hard, agressive, soulless.

I heard a CD of this... one of the ''songs'' played for about 10 minutes in just one chord. It was E minor without any chord sequence change. Lots of noises, whispered voices and effects in the backgroud. Awful!

Trendy straight night clubs play a little bit of this, plus indie rock, and also this ''new'' kind of dance-music... I really don't know what it is called... but it sounds a lot like 80's euro-disco: the sensation is the recent Madonna tracks (Jump, Sorry, Get Together), plus Scisor Sisters, Killie Minogue and even some new Pet Shop Boys tracks too... the Pets also jumped in this trend, which is (in fact) very much their area.

NO HOUSE MUSIC IS PLAYED ANYMORE ANYWHERE. But IMO there's still good HOUSE tracks being produced. The Danny Krivit Defected In The House is a proof... the songs are from 2004/05/06... I don't understand why no one's interested anymore and prefer to hear crap.

...Yes, there are some good music still produced, but the amount of **** is much bigger and the latter is somehow become a "standard" for modern "trendy" production.

I don't mean to offend anyone's musical taste but....
2000's POP is CRAP
2000's DANCE is CRAP
2000's ROCK is CRAP
2000's R&B is CRAP
2000's HIP-HOP is CRAP

Oh boy... let me play the 1977 Cocomotion album for the nth time.

[tony98]

Out shortly is a House version of an old Italian House track. By the Houzecrushers "Touch Me" is a cover version of the 49ers oldie which in turn sampled Ecstacy, Passion & Pain.

[Thereza bizarre]

Ilike hi nrg and disco just fine as they are.
but one track could be a great little gem "electric salsa" by OFF that would be a hip shaking little dittie.