Picture: Michael Jackson at Brown's funeral

[Disco Funk]

Well with James Brown, he died of natural causes at a respectable age . Michael died unnecessarily at a comparably earlier part of his life........so I think with James Brown it was a little more celebratory of a long lived life well done .
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True, although James was still touring! :)

Disco Funk

[SandraDee]

how a man as unquestionably intelligent as Michael Jackson nevertheless couldn't figure out how to better manage his health OR his money.

There are different forms of intelligence I feel. MJ was a genius when it came to entertaining people, and a kind compassionate person without doubt, but I get the impression that he seemed clueless about the 'nitty-gritty' of life's daily management, as many 'showbizz'-type people are (a stereotype i know, but stereotypes usually exist for a reason I find). This is why for years I've felt so sorry for MJ as he just seemed to have no control over the running of his life, a bit like how Judy Garland was, his affairs were run by people who just saw him as a 'golden goose' who would always be around to keep their bank balances healthy, while poor MJ's health (both mental & physical) became a thing of the past.

[remicks]

I doubt that Evil Joe Jackson :icon_evil: will get his hands on the kidz. He's lived in Vegas for the past 10 years--separately from Katherine, who lives in Encino. So I guess we could say they are "not together" anymore. Just guessin'. I have no inside info--but they are BOTH way too old to be raising kidz. :icon_confused:

And you know Joe's first thought would be "how can I make some $$$ off them." Oh you know it's true.

:icon_idea: Remake "ABC"!!!! :icon_idea:

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Michael Jackson Forms Jackson 3!


Michael Jackson has formed the next group in the Jackson Dynasty.

He's (47) in the studio with his kids to record and give them singing lessons. :icon_idea:He wants to repeat the success:icon_idea: he had with his brothers.:icon_eek::icon_eek:

He now lives in London and Bahrein and is said to have left the U.S. permanently. He's also still working on his Hurricane-benefit record.

like father like son like grandpa ....


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[Dayna]

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Well if its as Dayna explained it ... she didn't want to stir up a fuss or "outshine Michael" :icon_eek::icon_eek: :icon_razz::icon_razz::icon_razz:.

I said take away any of the spotlight away not outshine..big difference..
To take away any of the spotlight means her presence could be distracting causing more than wanted attention to focus on her..
To outshine ..well that's a whole different planet

Here's an easy solution to that theory
... don yourself in simple black clothing , big black hat, black sun glasses and sit quietly in a back row .

Yeah,ok, Diana incognito..Good luck with that..:icon_lol:Um like everyone was in simple black clothing with dark sunglasses on
So No one would know it was Diana:icon_lol::icon_lol:

AND MAYBE ... if she's the classy lady Dayna makes her out to be ... she did just that .... :icon_cool: :icon_cool: :icon_cool: :icon_cool: :icon_cool:
being classy is something the LADY has mastered all on her own I had nothing to do with it..:icon_lol:

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I loves me some Diana and I know she's human but I will always defend her..Unless it's outright blatent that she did something wrong..EVEN if she didn't attend for whatever reason, who are We to judge her as to why she did or didn't..
We have no clue as to what's going on in the ladies heart or mind.

[STEPHEN L FREEMAN]

...EVEN if she didn't attend for whatever reason, who are We to judge her as to why she did or didn't..
We have no clue as to what's going on in the ladies heart or mind.

Exactamundo...

Even though Donna Summer was asked to sing at the Staples Center service, she couldn't cancel her Paris concert with only 48 hours notice.
And, if I'm not mistaken, when Larry King read Diana's statement, he mentioned she was "overseas for performances".

Yes... It was MJ's service. But performers have the livelihoods of thousands of people at stake, when they choose to cancel an engagement. And the greatest stars, are often forced to put that daunting responsibility before their personal needs.

[remicks]

Originally Posted by remicks
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Well if its as Dayna explained it ... she didn't want to stir up a fuss or "outshine Michael" :icon_eek::icon_eek: :icon_razz::icon_razz::icon_razz:.

I said take away any of the spotlight away not outshine..big difference..
To take away any of the spotlight means her presence could be distracting causing more than wanted attention to focus on her..
To outshine ..well that's a whole different planet

Yes I see I did exaggerate your position ...sorry .... but your full comment Dayna was : she didn't want to take any of the spotlight away from Michael and we all know Diana has a way of shining..I .

so I 'd suggest one can make a solemn somber respectful appearance at such an occasion and not be in "shine" mode and not take away any of the spotlight ....quite the opposite really , her presence would've served greatly to intensify Michael's spotlight .

Here's an easy solution to that theory
... don yourself in simple black clothing , big black hat, black sun glasses and sit quietly in a back row .

Yeah,ok, Diana incognito..Good luck with that..:icon_lol:Um like everyone was in simple black clothing with dark sunglasses on
So No one would know it was Diana:icon_lol::icon_lol:

I don't understand :icon_confused:.....
Miss Ross couldn't have just sat there quietly amongst other significant guests that were close to Michael??? ??? Then slip in and out of that place without a bunch of hoopla in the same way the other "names" did like Mariah Carie ,Queen Latifah or Michael's own Mom ...??



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I loves me some Diana and I know she's human but I will always defend her..Unless it's outright blatent that she did something wrong..EVEN if she didn't attend for whatever reason, who are We to judge her as to why she did or didn't..
We have no clue as to what's going on in the ladies heart or mind.

We're not judging .....we're each of us just speculating ... ...:icon_mrgreen:

[remicks]

Exactamundo...

Even though Donna Summer was asked to sing at the Staples Center service, she couldn't cancel her Paris concert with only 48 hours notice.
And, if I'm not mistaken, when Larry King read Diana's statement, he mentioned she was "overseas for performances".

Yes... It was MJ's service. But performers have the livelihoods of thousands of people at stake, when they choose to cancel an engagement. And the greatest stars, are often forced to put that daunting responsibility before their personal needs.

well as I said :
I'm sure there are at least a thousand good reasons Diana couldn't attend!!:icon_mrgreen:

But this is getting really good now !!!!!!! :icon_biggrin:
Any time we have Donna Summer and Diana Ross in the same topic
we're getting into some good disco chatter !! :icon_mrgreen::icon_mrgreen::icon_mrgreen:
:icon_mrgreen:

So let me get this straight
Donna Summer was asked to sing at the Staples Center ??????:icon_eek:

By who?? and heaven knows , why ???? Was there some particular Donna Summer -Michael Jackson connection to warrant this ???? I can't think of any .....

But even if so .....
we know this:

Donna didn't appear. She instead did her scheduled concert in Paris and we know that at that concert she dedicated a part of the performance to Michael and that tribute has been made available to the world...

So that's Donna's angle in this.

Now as for Diana:

It's suggested here that likewise was the case , that Diana Ross also had "overseas performances" to attend to ( anyone able too confirm that????)

Regardless
if she were indeed performing instead of attending Michael's funeral -
there hasn't been any word of a resulting "tribute to Michael" therein nor any excerpt of such a tribute by her released......


It's most odd ......like Donna Summer is subbing for Diana Ross!!:icon_eek:

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[Disco Funk]

I don't hold it against Diana Ross for not being there. There were many celebrities who knew Jackson over the years who didn't attend. For all we know, they had a falling out during the last few years (sometime after he made the 2002 Will). I'm sure she's grieving for Michael in her own way.

Disco Funk

[SandraDee]

Was there some particular Donna Summer -Michael Jackson connection to warrant this ???? I can't think of any .....

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Didn't he do some backing vocals on her Quincy Jones-produced eponymous '82 LP?

[Dayna]

I don't understand :icon_confused:.....
Miss Ross couldn't have just sat there quietly amongst other significant guests that were close to Michael??? ??? Then in and out of that place without a bunch of hoopla in the same way the other "names" did like Mariah Carie ,Queen Latifah or Michael's own Mom ...??


Rem,
Queen Latifah nor Mariah Carey sat unnoticed.."they performed"
As for Katherine Jackson the camera panned to her every chance it got without being too distasteful..Every Celebrity in the Staples Center Was accounted for... The biggest names in attendance were the ones you saw on stage..And Jermaine was always slated to sing Smile..I had heard that way before the event took place.Let's be honest there were Alot of unaccounted for "shall we say guests" that day..
As for Donna Summer's relation to Michael..what relation was John Mayer? Jennifer Hudson? Mariah Carey? Queen Latifah?They just wanted a good show because you know it will be on DVD then there will be a gold edition and platinum edition~! It's business sad to say. And Donna would have lent to good show.....And It's not what you do for someone after they're dead that counts it's what you did for them in life and none save Berry Gordy did more for Michael in terms of Getting his career in gear than Ms Diana Ross:icon_biggrin:
Oh and any Diana Ross fan would know her in an instant,her manner,her walk her charisma..No matter how much black ,how big the hat or how big the sunglasses were.
Which all goes back to my original statement about the custody,etc..no other guests would have been in that line of fire..So much hoopala about that on every network..Plus if Diana had of gone and hadn't performed it would have been Oh My Diana didn't even perform.blah blah blah..

[kdavid13]

Didn't he do some backing vocals on her Quincy Jones-produced eponymous '82 LP?

As a Donna-diehard - I have seen a picture of Donna & Michael posing together circa 1978/79.

Michael was also featured in the all-star choir during State of independence.

Ever since MJ passed away - Donna has spoken to CNN and others about Michael and how she loved & supported him.

She stated on CNN that she never believed the allegations and that to her it sounded like he was being set up.

She also talked about working on the 1982 album at Quincy's house and Michael dropped by and played with Mimi outside the house.

[SandraDee]

how she loved & supported him.

She stated on CNN that she never believed the allegations and that to her it sounded like he was being set up.

You know, every person that knew or met him said how lovely he was. The only people who criticise Michael are people that didn't meet him & judge him by his eccentricities or appearance or some other shallow thing like that. Thanx kd for that photo of Donna & Michael - he looks like he's circa 'Off The Wall' doesn't he? I'm sure I read somewhere that they were once seen at Studio 54 together, which is quite likely given it's celebrity appeal.

[Dayna]

You know, every person that knew or met him said how lovely he was. The only people who criticise Michael are people that didn't meet him & judge him by his eccentricities or appearance or some other shallow thing like that. Thanx kd for that photo of Donna & Michael - he looks like he's circa 'Off The Wall' doesn't he? I'm sure I read somewhere that they were once seen at Studio 54 together, which is quite likely given it's celebrity appeal.

Ms Dee,I am with you.I tend to believe the good in people unless I have proof otherwise..
Michael just seemed so childlike and sweet I can't see him doing the things they said he did..I might be wrong but untill it's been proved 100% I will never believe it..
and Kris LOVE the photo..thank u darlin..xx

[kdavid13]

Kris LOVE the photo..thank u darlin..xx

My pleasure !!!
First time I ever saw it was in 1979 - in one of Miss Rona Barrett's gossip magazines !!!

[SandraDee]

Ms Dee,I am with you.I tend to believe the good in people unless I have proof otherwise..
Michael just seemed so childlike and sweet I can't see him doing the things they said he did..I might be wrong but untill it's been proved 100% I will never believe it..

It's so nice to come to Bernie's site & know I'm in the company of cool people like you Dayna & all the others who I love to bits. I've just been looking at the Michele Freeman LP in the records section of this site (I think it's such a fab under-rated LP) & was amazed to see Michele herself added a comment!:icon_eek: I just love this site! I wish it had been around all my life, as I would've been a happier & better-informed young man. (I'm going all sentimental in my middle-age aren't I?)

[remicks]

Rem,
As for Donna Summer's relation to Michael..what relation was John Mayer? Jennifer Hudson? Mariah Carey? Queen Latifah?They just wanted a good show because you know it will be on DVD then there will be a gold edition and platinum edition~! It's business sad to say. And Donna would have lent to good show...

Interesting, when you say they wanted a good show ... .who's the "they" ??????
And Good grief ......surely Dayna you're not saying that the performers used were based on their packaging appeal ??? Say it ain't so --- Queen Latifah and Reverend Sharpton participated from the vantage point of a smart business deal??? I just can't believe that of them ...oh wait .... yes I can ....
( Hmmmm... ya, ......... what was John Meyer doing up there?????)

..And It's not what you do for someone after they're dead that counts it's what you did for them in life and none save Berry Gordy did more for Michael in terms of Getting his career in gear than Ms Diana Ross:icon_biggrin:
I'm not sure who got the most mileage out of that professional relationship ....

Disco Funk

I don't hold it against Diana Ross for not being there.

I don't either DF .
It's honestly no skin off my nose that she didn't attend Michael's funeral .....or is that the wrong choice of words ......



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[Dayna]

It's so nice to come to Bernie's site & know I'm in the company of cool people like you Dayna & all the others who I love to bits. I've just been looking at the Michele Freeman LP in the records section of this site (I think it's such a fab under-rated LP) & was amazed to see Michele herself added a comment!:icon_eek: I just love this site! I wish it had been around all my life, as I would've been a happier & better-informed young man. (I'm going all sentimental in my middle-age aren't I?)

Thank you sweetie,I feel the same way about you and many other members ~!!
This site is the best and has the best people in every aspect of operation ,contribution, knowledge and enquiring minds..Wouldn't it be delicious if we had a DiscoMusic.com party where all the people involved could meet ,dance and party? The only thing would be where to have it? location location location:icon_confused:

[Dayna]

I don't either DF .
It's honestly no skin off my nose that she didn't attend Michael's funeral .....or is that the wrong choice of words ......



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:icon_eek::icon_eek::icon_eek::icon_eek::icon_eek:....................................

[STEPHEN L FREEMAN]

...Oh and any Diana Ross fan would know her in an instant,her manner,her walk her charisma..No matter how much black ,how big the hat or how big the sunglasses were...

Don't forget the trademark Ross mane!!!:icon_eek:
Ain't no black hat on earth, big enough to pile all that weave up into!


okay... okay... But I couldn't resist. And it seemed like time for a giggle.
When you see me next, Dayna, I'll drop me trousers and hand you the strap.
"ONE! Thank you Mistress. May i have another?"

[SandraDee]

The only thing would be where to have it? location location location:icon_confused:

We'll all have to meet at Neverland when it gets opened up to the public!:icon_razz:

[Dayna]

Don't forget the trademark Ross mane!!!:icon_eek:
Ain't no black hat on earth, big enough to pile all that weave up into!

okay... okay... But I couldn't resist. And it seemed like time for a giggle.
When you see me next, Dayna, I'll drop me trousers and hand you the strap.

"ONE! Thank you Mistress. May i have another?"

I'll drop me trousers and hand you the strap.

"ONE!

OMG..lolllllllllllllll When I first read that I SWEAR I thought it said hand you the strap on.. :icon_lol::icon_lol:..I almost FAINTED~!!:icon_eek:Then I read it correctly..
Well I guess I was a bit flustered about the whole dropping of the trouserskikikiki

[STEPHEN L FREEMAN]

OMG..lolllllllllllllll When I first read that I SWEAR I thought it said hand you the strap on.. :icon_lol::icon_lol:..
I almost FAINTED~!!:icon_eek: Then I read it correctly...
Well I guess I was a bit flustered about the whole dropping of the trouserskikikiki

:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:
Wish I could've seen your face!

Tho', ya knows I mights get a bit racy, now and then...
But I'd never get vulgar with a Lady.

[Dayna]

:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:
Wish I could've seen your face!

Tho', ya knows I mights get a bit racy, now and then...
But I'd never get vulgar with a Lady.

I know you would never say anything like that Moo Moo.That's why I was tripping..





I'm not sure who got the most mileage out of that professional relationship ....

You say TOMAYTO.. I sat TOMAWTO:icon_cool:
My favorite performance was Stevie Wonder..The song's were so relivant and beautiful..Especially "I never dreamed you'd leave in summerI broke down..I was also moved by what Rev Sharpton said and Brooke Sheilds was also very moving..