So what is the deal with Ibiza?

**markydefad** · December 19th, 2001, 12:30 PM

I'm constantly seeing the Ibiza name on current dance CD compilations. I realize it's an island off the coast of Spain and it's a big resort spot. What's the importance of Ibiza to the current dance music? Is it because lots of new stuff is broken there by DJ's or what? Just curious for some of the Euro crowd to inform me. Thanks.

**Bernie** · December 19th, 2001, 12:36 PM

Jussi and Giovanni should certainly be able to shed some light on this. I'm pretty sure that Jussi mentioned Ibiza in his book "Saturday Night Forever."

As for me, the first time I heard of ibiza in the musical sense was during the New Beat days of the late 1980's.

**JussiK** · December 20th, 2001, 07:46 AM

Listen, I've reached the age of 40 and going to Ibiza now would be unthinkable. Ibiza was always about total excess - going to your hotel from the airport to change into clubwear, hopping into a taxi, having a drink in Ibiza harbour watching the sun go down, and then heading to Pacha or whatever the club du jour was. You'd jump until daylight and then move to the beach to dance in the sun until the evening. Then start it all over again and do it for a week. Or two. - The music was first funk during the mid 70's 2whn I first went with my mum (!!!), then disco and then what became known as Balearic - house, indie rock and handbag disco vibes in one. And the amount of drugs on the island was staggering - why interpol or something like that never descended there and just cleaned the place up was a miracle. It's not any different there today, so if you fell like "havin'it" or how does the saying go, go ahead!

Capri was a bit more refined and still is today - even Tom Cruise has a residence there now. I won't repeat what some of my gay friends on the island have told me about the Star...

**Leanmean** · December 20th, 2001, 08:00 AM

The first time I heard about Ibiza was in a 1970's paperback book about two cool, fun loving girls who meet and travel across Europe together. That's the first time I ever heard about youth hostels, too. I think the girls become lovers in Ibiza, the most decadent place either of them had ever been. Sex, sex, and more sex and drugs galore, but it was also the most beautiful place they had ever seen. I longed to live the life of those two girls and travel to Ibiza. I loved that cheesy book and wish I knew the name of it. Boodikka, any ideas?

Anyway, the next time I heard about Ibiza was in a magazine article that showed a picture of dancers in an Ibiza club covered in foam. It was the latest thing at the time to have these foam machines flood the dance floor and cover the dancers until you could barely see them. That image reminded me of the book. It's great to read Jussi's comments as someone who was there!

**Boodikka** · December 20th, 2001, 04:01 PM

I'd often hear about Ibiza when I'd visit Brasil during the disco days. It sounded like the only spot that could compete with Rio or Sao Paolo for .......entertainment. i rmember seeing the idiotic film WILD AND BEAUTIFUL IN IBIZA my senior year of college, as stupid as it was, I was intrigued about the place. Years later, one of the Playboy Channel documentary shows gave the real deal on Ibiza....then I REALLY wanted to go.

Lean, that book sounds vaguely familiar to me...let me investigate on Planet.

Jussi, if you share some Tom Cruise nasties with us, I'll share some Nicole Kidman goodies with you :grin:

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**markydefad** · December 20th, 2001, 04:13 PM

Jussi & Boodi,

Make sure you cc me on any celebrity gossip! Especially regarding Tom (I'm Not GAY) Cruise & Nicole (Ice Princess) Kidman. I have heard more stories about Tom since I moved to LA and started working in show biz, but I have no proof of anything. I do have a theory on why they divorced, but of course, it's unprovable. That subject may be the next Kennedy Assasination Conspiracy Theory here in LA. Control-freak Tom ain't gonna let nobody know his bizness!!!

**Boodikka** · December 20th, 2001, 04:33 PM

Marky M' Love,

Nicole sure ain't no Ice Princess in some of those West Hollywood establishments she frequents......you know, the ones with no need for men's rooms.....:grin:

**markydefad** · December 20th, 2001, 04:49 PM

Goddess Boodikka,

Ya got evidence? Incriminating photos? Do tell!!!

I think they have sex with people and have them killed immediately. Sorta like spiders.

All I can say is, if it's not true, I have never seen a longer list of people who swear it is, and have tales to tell. Yet no proof exists, at least that hasn't been silenced, hushed, snuffed, or put on the payroll.

I, for one, would love to see it all exposed.

**PhyllisHyman** · December 20th, 2001, 08:26 PM

Ibiza...to.. Tom Cruise, how?

**BrunoRepublic** · December 20th, 2001, 09:29 PM

On 2001-12-20 21:26, PhyllisHyman wrote:

Ibiza...to.. Tom Cruise, how?

Message thread continuity? What's that?

Seriously, it's amazing where we wind up when we follow the rhythm... or get on the funk train... or the disco spaceship...

**JussiK** · December 21st, 2001, 12:48 AM

Any church of scientology spies here ready to bounce on anyone telling on Tom? Who cares. Tom has his Capri mansion off the Via Tiburiana up on the hill , and he arrives with an entourage of smartly dressed gentlemen. Apart from some quick visits to the nearby lemon grove restaurants they hide within the confines of the villa. Nicole is never present - she probably spends her time harrassing the people working on the endless redecorations in her house in LA (she tells them to turn against the wall whenever she moves thru the room - no eye contact at any time ). Anyway, back to Capri -I'm being informed that Tom likes nothing better than a big fat black dick up his arse. So there, I've said my piece...now what about Nicole!?

**markydefad** · December 21st, 2001, 10:35 AM

Jussi,

I'm speechless. YOU SAID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for that. I'm rolling on the floor in hysterics!

God, are we all gonna be hunted down for the next lawsuit? Will Bert Fields & Pat Kingsley & CAA be sending us Christmas subpoenas?

**BrunoRepublic** · December 21st, 2001, 11:18 AM

Nicole is never present - she probably spends her time harrassing the people working on the endless redecorations in her house in LA (she tells them to turn against the wall whenever she moves thru the room - no eye contact at any time ).

Sounds like she graduated with honours from the Miss Ross School of Stardom Etiquette...

**Boodikka** · December 22nd, 2001, 08:37 AM

If Boodikka is The Goddess, then Jussi just became the The God....of course, now i have to be aware if any Scientology ninjas are going to "hit" me soon.

As for Nicole, the Aussie Albino tends to be VERY discreet regarding dancing in Sappho's Garden....her closet is deeper and more secure than old Tom Cruise-y. Unlike the recent Helen Hunt-Mandy Ingber ("Cheers", "The Tortellis") and Portia de Rossi-Francesca Gregorini (Ringo's stepdaughter) revelations, Nicole walks on the wild side more along the lines of Megan Mullalley (who dates a non-celeb hottie bartender in WeHo). So though Nicole does a good job at keeping her stuff quiet, the one celeb name I have linked to hers (about 80% reliable) is Kim Delaney (NYPD Blue). Speaking of Delaney, is Susan Lucci the ONLY straight actor/actress from the early '80s "All My Children"?

**Boodikka** · December 22nd, 2001, 08:42 AM

Oh yes, the "no eye-contact" thingie that Jussi mentioned: that's a 100% confirmation....the Cruisey/Kidgloves clan went to DisneyWorld and tried to run the same number on the employees there.....

BTW, I understand Russel Crowe as Nicole's merkin.....but Penelope Cruz as Tom's beard? She's more butch than he is!

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**JussiK** · December 23rd, 2001, 05:14 AM

Boodikka darling, I'm not wholly to blame. My faithful sidekick film critic disco book co-writer mate from London, who shall remain nameless, has introduced me to party hosts and sneaked me in to soirees where one can spot celebs snorting funny stuff up their noses and babble uncontrollably on subjects they should not be discussing in the presence of strangers. Just how careless some of those people are is unbeliveable. Wesley Snipes likes to throw his...ahem, what's the polite word in English, poo..? around during heated moments of passion - he told that he did that with Our Lady M. in a hotel room in Antibes some years ago. The wallpapers had to be changed after the pair had checked out.

The Nicole incidents are indeed well known, but what has not been confirmed is the rumour on many lips 6 years ago: Nicole was paid a million dollars a year if she stayed married to Tom plus a career - not that big an amount of money, actually, considering of what the stars earn, but she was then not the name she is today. Could this be true, who knows...

**DISCOBARRY** · December 25th, 2001, 07:59 PM

I've seen tons of compilations referring to Ibiza such as "Ibiza Trance", "Ibiza Anthems", "Ibiza Club Hits", etc. Whether or not these songs are actually played in Ibiza nightclubs is questionable. A friend of mine bought an Ibiza compilation and it was terrible (bad house music). Apparently Paul Oakenfold used to go to Ibiza when he was younger and thought it was a hip place. Apparently he started the "baleric" sound back in the late 80's. Baleric meaning the Baleric Islands which Ibiza is part of (Mallorca being another). What I've read is that it's a pretty wild place, a real party island. Supposidly some of the world's best nightclubs are there.

**markydefad** · December 28th, 2001, 12:32 PM

Hey Boodi,

Loved your gossipy tidbits of love Sappho style....Helen Hunt & Mandy Ingber????? We used to rep Mandy. I never heard that one.

So what's with Russell Crowe squiring all the ladies who love ladies? (Jodie, Nicole, etc.)

**Boodikka** · December 28th, 2001, 02:18 PM

Hey Marky-Boo! Helen and Mandy haven't been exactly undercover since the Oscars, at least. Since the Huntswomans's disastrous nuptials with Hank Azaria went south, she's been taking a more Melissa Etheridge approach to life.....or at least a Kelly McGillis approach, if you get my drift.

As for Russell "The Thighmaster" Crowe taking on the Super-Beard duties in Hollywood, the Goddess Boodikka has no clue as to what up wit dat. Maybe L. Ron Hubbard, calling from beyond the grave, told the deep-pocketed Scientology types to make him the honorary "Beard For Life" for all the closeted Hollywood grrrls.....

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**markydefad** · December 28th, 2001, 02:48 PM

Hey Jussi,

God, you've got some priceless tidbits, too.

Now, at the risk of getting too gross, maybe you should e-mail the answers to these questions, or, since you seemingly are fearless (Hear! Hear!)..feel free to respond here. Your choice.

Now, regarding Wesley...how exactly does the "poo" come into play during the passion?

And is that Miss M. you referred to now Mrs. Ritchie? I have some dirt on Wesley, myself, regarding a very famous actress that he hit upside the head and caused her to go deaf in one ear. She's mentioned the incident in print, but I've never seen the name of the culprit mentioned. And, amazingly enough, the very evening it happened, I was sitting not 3 feet away from him at Marix in West Hollywood. He was dining with another woman. When he came home to the Famous Actress's house, where he was staying, some sort of altercation erupted that sent her to the hospital for several days. His manager's response was "black women expect their men to hit 'em" and the manager is a black woman, I might add.

God, am I going to hell or what? Well, we'll have a big disco party down there. Jussi & Boodi, bring your records!!!!

**Boodikka** · December 28th, 2001, 05:36 PM

Goddess Boodikka reporting from Hell, Seventh Level: Markey, m'love, I'll never mention out loud that the actress slapped around by the Bumpy Blade, old Wesley Snipes himself, was none other than HALLYBERRYHALLYBERRYHALLYBERRY.....oops, did I say the name? :grin:

Man, it's really @#$%in' HOT down here!

**JussiK** · December 30th, 2001, 06:12 AM

On 2001-12-28 15:48, markydefad wrote:

Now, regarding Wesley...how exactly does the "poo" come into play during the passion?

And is that Miss M. you referred to now Mrs. Ritchie

Well, Marky; apparently some filthy rich people such as Mrs. Ritchie love to get down and dirty. There's an offical word to it: scatology. From scientology to scatology, look how low we have fallen in the subjects we discuss...And talking of Hell, do you get the cider ad there in which sexy seminaked demons in hell crack open a box full of cider bottles, and Karen Young's HOT SHOT suddenly blasts forth, sending all inferno into disco frenzy?! That's the party I hope we'll end up in.

**markydefad** · January 2nd, 2002, 06:30 PM

Well, Jussi & Boodi, I hate to see this thread die. I've never been more amused recently than by the Hollywood gossip you two seem to conjure up at your fingertips. Do you two write for tabloids somewhere? If so, I gotta subscribe.

Boodi, is the Halle Berry thing common knowledge these days? When it happened we were told to shut up...so I did, sorta. I mean this was years ago.

Jussi, I'm aware of scat queens...but Madonna??? Is is the Catholic guilt or what? I never would have dreamed that one up!!!

Let's make a pact to keep each other informed of the latest dirt on a more regular basis. Maybe a thread in the Non-disco Subject area???

And last, I guess hell for us would be either all the best records and no turntable or two turntables and nothing to spin. Or maybe just Limp Bizkit!

**markydefad** · January 3rd, 2002, 12:02 PM

Afterthought:

Maybe HELL, for me, is gonna be a Danny Tenaglia mix CD in constant repeat mode

**BrunoRepublic** · January 3rd, 2002, 12:53 PM

Hell for me? Oh geez, there's so many options...

- Celine Dion singing a non-stop medley of Christmas carols, and remixed by Tommy Musto (oh, the hundreds of times I suffered through that horrific dance mix of "Unison"... *shudder*)

- Perpetual Whitney Houston "Greatest Hits" CD

- Listening to CHUM-FM for eternity (think the same middle-of-the-road songs played 8 times a day, every day, for years at a time)

- Living in a world where the Sex Pistols are considered high art

- Violent thugs shouting out pornographic nursery rhymes over a collage of distorted samples of shoplifted records --- oh wait, I'm thinking of reality now...