So What's the Good New Stuff?????

**markydefad** · September 2nd, 2002, 07:26 PM

Occasionally, some of the younger members mention new club songs that are bringing back the Disco sound of the old days. Disco Savvy, an occasional contributor here, has mentioned some titles in the past.

Those of us who no longer go to clubs have no way to hear this stuff--SOOOO I'm proposing that those in the know--let us know the titles of recent/current dance tunes that the old crowd might appreciate--IF we had a way to hear them.

AND, just as important as titles, WHERE is the BEST version obtained? I've given up on buying CD singles cause they just SUCK--so if there's a certain mix to be preferred over others or the original CD version is best--that info would be most helpful.

I always suspect I'm missing out on good stuff--BUT, I've been burned so many times in the past, that I'm really reluctant to experiment anymore.

C'mon KIDZ, help the "Old Farts" find new tunes!!!!! :lol:

**discosavvy** · September 2nd, 2002, 08:53 PM

Here's what I recommend and don't recommend.

My 3 favorites:
"Murder on the Dancefloor" by Sophie Ellis Bextor (2001) - excellent
"Should I Let Him Go?" by The Company (2000) - excellent
"Cosmic Girl" by Jamiroquai (1996) - great

Worth listening to:
"Never Been Kissed" by Kristine W. (2000) - great
"I Don't Understand It" by Ultra Nate (2001) - great
"Canned Heat" by Jamiroquai (1999) - good
"Love Foolosophy" by Jamiroquai (2001) - great but a little too poppish
"Main Vein" by Jamiroquai (2001) - great
"You Give Me Something" by Jamiroquai (2001) - good but sounds like an imitation
"Ooh, C'mon" by The Company (2002) - great but lacks the string section
"They Dance!" by Barry Manilow (2001) - good if you don't mind the Travolta SNF reference
"Straight Ahead" by Fused (2001) - good mix of strings and electronics, and isn't like other songs
"Never Give Up On the Good Times" by the Spice Girls (1997) - great optimistic track
"I Love the Night Life" by India with NuYorican Soul (1998) - pretty good copycat

Not worth listening to:
"Take Me Home" by Sophie Ellis Bextor (2001) - not as good as the original Cher version
"You Turned My World Around" by The Company (2000) - nice strings but a little dull
"Little L" by Jamiroquai (2001) - good but can get boring after repeated listening
"Sexual Guarantee" by Alcazar (2001) - good but stick with "My Forbidden Lover"
"Anticipating" by Britney Spears (2001) - too much teen-pop-ish I suppose
"It Feels Good" by Team Factor featuring Kenny Bobien (2002) - fair
"When I Get You Alone" by Robin Thicke (2002) - good but not an original score
"Idiot Boyfriend" by Jimmy Fallon (2002) - this is meant to be a parody of Michael Jackson's "Off the Wall" album and Leo Sayer's "You Make Me Feel Like Dancing"
"Hey, Goldmember" by Beyonce Knowles (2002) - not original, skip it
"Never Let It Go" by Afro-dite (2002) - trite and too electronic
"Turn the Beat Around" by Gloria Estefan (1994) - copycat and not as good as the original
"Ain't No Stoppin' Us Now" by Luther Vandross (1994) - copycat
"Who Do You Think You Are" by the Spice Girls (1996) - so what
"Let's Go Round Again" by Louise Nurding (1997) - good song but her voice is weak
"Outside" by George Michael (1998) - just OK
"Bag It Up" by Geri Halliwell (1999) - this song is a joke
"It's A Disco Night" by Pascal and Mister Day (1998) - this song bores me
"Strong Enough" by Cher (1998) - sounds good but lyrics are too much like "I Will Survive"

Hey Mark, I got my "The Company" CD new for just $4.00 and it's not a single, it's an entire album! I don't recommend the Ultra Nate 2001 album because it's inconsistent. Sophie's and Jamiroquai's materials are available as singles.

I would have had a radio station with all of these new disco songs, except for the absurd DMCA and Library of Congress regulations which killed affordable webcasting. Someday I might invest in a CD and vinyl compilation project for the best of the new disco tracks, licensed and with full liner notes.

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**HustleBaby** · September 2nd, 2002, 08:54 PM

Marky, I can't think of any new "disco type" songs. I'm pretty sure there are a few songs out there but I don't go to clubs that play todays music. If I do, its once in a blue moon and when I did go, all of the songs sound the same (sampling or techno/trance).

The last two songs that comes close to disco is Kylie's "Can't Get You Out Of My Head" and my favorite "Love Fool" by The Cardigans.

*DISCO DELIGHT*

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**markydefad** · September 2nd, 2002, 10:18 PM

Thanks for the info Discosavvy.

Now, I'd like to check out Sophie Ellis Bextor: Allmusic only rates her CD as a 2-star affair and the "Murder on the Dancefloor" cut is only 3:51. So, my question is should I buy the CD of remixes--or just the original CD????

I also have to get the last Jamiroquai CD--I have all their earlier stuff. I like them--BUT, I've never used one of their songs on a tape. Is this CD much different than the others???

This year, I've liked several cuts form the last Cher CD:
"Music's No Good Without You" (especially)
"Song For The Lonely"
"Real Love"
"You Take IT All"

"Wish I Didn't Miss You"- Angie Stone

"Can't Get You Out Of My Head"- Kylie Minogue

"We Are All Made Of Stars"- Moby (Electronica)

"Days Go By" - Dirty Vegas (Electronica)

"Hella Good" - No Doubt (Rock)(I LOVE this whole CD) :razz:

"Dig In" - Lenny Kravitz (Rock)

That's all I've got on my list so far of good danceable stuff. :roll:

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**born2disco** · September 2nd, 2002, 11:55 PM

Cassius ft. Jocelyn Brown - 'I'm a Woman'

**born2disco** · September 3rd, 2002, 12:06 AM

Just thought of a few more.....

BB Boogie - 'Tell Him'
Bobby & Steve - 'You Will Survive'
Akabu ft. Linda Clifford - 'Ride the Storm' (Joey Negro Solar Jazz Mix)
Sessomato - 'Moody'

there are a lot more, these are just off the top of my head.....

**DeepBeat** · September 3rd, 2002, 12:46 AM

I think a safe way to get a lot of the best new dance music around is to get the latest Hed Kandi compilations. Hed Kandi is a UK label that specializes in disco/house etc.
The Disco Kandi series is cool and so is the Disco Heaven 02.02 and the Beach Kandi series.
I'm an all-timer myself but I like a lot of the new garage/house stuff that comes out. Sophie Ellis Bextor etc is too popish for my tastes but here are some of the best tunes I heard so far this year:
Shakedown - At Night (the original and Kid Creme mixes)
Angie Stone - Wish I didn't Miss You (Pound Boys remix)
Me'shell Ndegeocello - Earth (Ben Watt Lazy Dog remix)
Brandy - Full Moon (Full Intention remix)

These are relatively easy to find but I also recommend many releases from independent dance labels like King St. - Subliminal - Soulfuric/Defected etc.

**SandraDee** · September 3rd, 2002, 12:57 AM

'I Cant Get Enough' by Soul Searcher has got to be one of the best records of recent years & its featured in its best mix on 'Disco Kandi' double CD. It samples an old Garys Gang track but it isnt overly evident. Classy track!

**QUINNY** · September 3rd, 2002, 01:52 AM

Marky: Maybe it's just me, but this 'old fart' absolutely hates 'Sophie Ellis Baxter - Murder on the Dancefloor'. The woman can't sing for toffee and the whole thing is sooooo lame, really. However the Spiller track Groove Jet, she did a few years back was so much better. A really hypnotic dance groove.
There again I don't like Jamiroquai 'cos I think they sound soooo contrived and the guy's really false funk scat style of singing really bugs me out of existence. Lame or what?

Marky, How far back do you want to go? Trouble is, I only ever hear the radio crossover stuff.

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**Giovanni** · September 3rd, 2002, 05:30 AM

Some recent and current club stomper that a disco lover should like:

LOUIS BENEDETTI: Another night
LIL LOUIE VEGA feat BLAZE: Brand new day
GAZZARA: the spirit of summer
KENNY BOBIEN: Reality
BIG MOSES feat KENNY BOBIEN: Never again
BLAZE feat ALEXANDER HOPE: Feel the music
TORTURED SOUL: How's your life
RICKY MONTANARI feat LISA MILLET: I believe
KENNY BBOBIEN: Goin' up yonder
UNDERGROUND MINISTRIES feat KENNY BOBIEN: I shall not be moved
JULIE McKNIGHT: Home
VOICES OF LIFE: The word is love
HARLEM SUNSHINE: Feel the spirit
VINNIE COLAIUDA feat HERBIE HANCOCK: Masmoska
EARTH WIND & FIRE: You can't hide love (MAW mix)
LIL LOUIE VEGA feat BLAZE: Elements of life
VICTOR DAVIES: Sound of the samba
JOE CLAUSSEL: Spiritual insurrection
ANGIE STONE: I wish
BRANDY: Full moon
FULL INTENTION: Stars
DONNA ALLEN: Sugar
BLAZE: Better day
BLAZE: Sweeter than the day before

**nrgbeat** · September 3rd, 2002, 06:05 AM

I know this song has already been mentioned but Hex Hector's Vibe Mix of Angie Stone's "I Wish I Didn't Miss You" uses a lot of the "Backstabbers" sample.

**Voyage** · September 3rd, 2002, 08:39 AM

Hey Marky!

Checkout "Played A Live" by Safri Duo, it's a huge club hit. Also checkout "I Am What I Am" by Karen Mulder. This cover of one of Gloria's greatest song lacks Gloria's voice but it's very reccommended.

Mmmmm let me think more..... "Time After Time" by Novaspace and also "Hard To Say I'm Sorry" by Aquagen. Check "Asereje" by Las Ketchup, "Lady" by Modjo, "Sandstorm" by Darude.

I'll post more later.

Voyage

**discosavvy** · September 3rd, 2002, 02:22 PM

Hi Mark. While I like some of the new disco songs, some are clearly designed for a pop audience and aren't more than radio-length in their original mixes, but I can deal with that. For instance "Murder on the Dancefloor" clocks in at 3:51 (compared to 7:28 for "Groovejet"). "They Dance!" is only 3:00. But some are more than 5 minutes... for instance: "Straight Ahead" is 5:01. "Canned Heat" is 5:30, "Should I Let Him Go?" is 5:54, "I Don't Understand It" is 6:56. The remixes of "Murder on the Dancefloor" are not so great. As for your question on Jamiroquai, their previous albums had a broader mix of acid-jazz, funk, disco, and experimental stuff, but their last album was more heavily disco-oriented (with some exceptions). Cher's latest material is OK but none of it is old-style disco. And I think Kylie's "Can't Get You Out Of My Head" is irritating! I prefer her other single, "Love at First Sight". Another song I found irritating was teen-pop group S Club 7's attempt at disco, "Don't Stop Movin'".

I appreciate hearing about the other new songs that were posted here. I'll try to check those out sometime, but it might be a challenge. I haven't heard anything from artists like Joe Claussel, Louis Benedetti, Donna Allen, Aquagen, and Sessomato.

**jazz_pilgrim** · September 3rd, 2002, 04:13 PM

Hi Marky,

Let me fill you in on some of the new stuff I have been listening to - mostly picked up via the radio.

There are two blinding disco tunes that are around at the moment that I have heard on the Robbie Vincent Sunday Show. FYI, Robbie was one of the top soul Dj's in the 70's Soul Mafia movement ...

BLAZE - Gloria Muse - funky garage/disco beat (real bass) overlaid with a tinkling jazzy piano lead all throught the record - STUNNING! Think the CD is out in 2weeks' time...

YUKAHERO FUKOTOMI - Love Each Other - cheesy disco sound for 2002! real song, real vocals, real instruments!! Out on 12-inch I believe.. Love it!

My favourite soul LP at present is CORNELL STONE and I love especially "She's So Beautiful".

One for Blax!! PHILIP BAILEY ex-EWF with his excelleny jazzy new LP. I have heard "Some Time Ago" from the radio.. Love it!! :grin:

Other recent stuff from 2002 that I love:

ANGELA JOHNSON - great soul LP eg They Don't Know

DENNIS TAYLOR cd - his track Steppin' has it all! A real traditional powerful bass line with a great catchy song on top. Soulful vocals. Essential modern soul/funk in the traditional vein!! :grin:

KOOP/TERRY CALLIER - "In A Heartbeat" Swedish group teams up with legendary soul singer. Very interesting tune - a bit leftfield but I am hooked!!! Has been doing the rounds for a few months now. Love it!

D-INFLUENCE have made a CD with covers of old soul stuff including a decent version of "Taste Of Bitter Love"

LENA CONQUEST - The Breeze. Nice mid tempo jazz offering feat ROY AYERS 'Nuff said!! :grin:

WILL DOWNING's new CD. I am going with "Don't Talk To ME Like That" Excellent jazz/soul stuff.

ST JERMAINE - A lot of people have been talking about this them. Sort of left field jazz / garage stuff. Rose Rouge is a stunner!
Also Pont des Arre is worth checking out!

JESTER FUNK - For Your Precious Love. Nice garage dancer. And the bass line sounds familiar? It's "Cocomotion" at a slower pace!! Though apparently no credits for El Coco are mentioned on the record...

VANESSA BELL ARMSTRONG - Make A Way. Excellent soul on the gospel side.

NATURAL HIGH - Dream Sequence. Traditional jazz / funk number with catchy tune. Brilliant! Definitely for the JP's!!

Of course there is ANGIE STONE's CD

Other disco artistes with new CDs' - in the smooth jazz style - PAUL HARDCASTLE with a re-working of Rain Forest - Hmm . Bit too smooth for me ... and JOE SAMPLE with HOWARD Whats-his-name ex-Shalamar..Heard a nice track from that CD. There a still a few legal hiccups delaying the new long-awaited TEENA MARIE CD, so I gather. Thought I heard a whisper about a new RICK JAMES CD on his web site at some point in the near future ....

And don;t forget those HED KANDI compilations. HED KANDI DISCO, DISCO HEAVEN and STEREO SUSHI compilations are the main uptempo ones ....

My faves from 2001:

First was a 1999 reissue - BARRY WHITE. Got a 2001 release in the UK. Tracks like "Which Way Is Up" - Wow!! Barry still proves he is THE MAIN MAN!! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! :grin:

DIONNE WARWICK/SPINNERS - Don't Need Another Love. Keep plugging this one. Awesome summer uptempo soul dancer. Glorious!! :grin: Got it on double 12" promo!! :grin:

O'JAYS - fantastic CD. I loved the slow jam, "I Don't Know" amongst other tracks ....

And finally, THE MAIN INGREDIENT's 2001 soul CD with a great dancer "Won't Let You Do That" Easily as good as "Evening Of Love" etc...

To keep up with the new stuff, I listen to

Jazz FM (www.jazzfm.com)
Soul 24-7 radio (www.soul24-7.com)
SOLAR Radio (www.solarradio.com)

All three have web radio stations - the latter 2 being web only ...

As I have said before, it's all out there waiting for ya!!!! Enjoy!

**Nano** · September 3rd, 2002, 06:24 PM

On 2002-09-03 17:13, jazz_pilgrim wrote:
ST JERMAINE - A lot of people have been talking about this them. Sort of left field jazz / garage stuff. Rose Rouge is a stunner!
Also Pont des Arre is worth checking out!

That is, French DJ Ludovic Navarre, aka St Germain. The CD is called "Tourist" and it's excellent. He's also the producer of Llorca.

JESTER FUNK - For Your Precious Love. Nice garage dancer. And the bass line sounds familiar? It's "Cocomotion" at a slower pace!! Though apparently no credits for El Coco are mentioned on the record...

Must be Jestofunk, an Italian funk band as far as I know. Good stuff.

Also think Barry White's "Staying power" is very good. And it came out on new-agey Windham Hill because no other label was interested! Incredible...

I think DJ music has a better vibe right now than those new R&B artists trying to sound like the 70's. Groove Armada, Fatboy Slim, Mirwais, Alex Gopher's "The child"... nice modern dance music for me.

**NickNack** · September 3rd, 2002, 07:25 PM

Mark,

Great idea, this thread. Now I can check these lists against what I been getting in 'promo' and see what I'm missing. Like you, I'm waaay behind on the newer artists and I'm really tired of getting burned on crappy CD's. Even my girl, Anastacia, didn't stretch far enough for me on her new one. Plus, they included two songs from the debut CD. What's with that?

**jazz_pilgrim** · September 4th, 2002, 12:28 AM

Thanks Nano for your info! :grin:

Nice to know I'm not the only one who likes this sort of stuff

Thanks for the additional info (very enlightening!! and the )spelling corrections as well! :grin: I get some of the trax off the radio, as I said, and you try spelling some of those names without a magazine to guide you!! :lol:

BTW Nano, I agree with your comments on Barry White. It is amazing that no major would put money into releasing that CD - it is superb! I love Groove Armanda as well. There is that track - By The River - I think it's called - it's really atmospheric with
that lazy horn solo over that laid-back groove. Stunning. I guess you know the track I mean.

You may ask why I keep up with the new stuff, Marky. It is a matter of just keeping in touch, not buying every new record that comes out - as I am too busy still buying the old stuff!!

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**DeepBeat** · September 4th, 2002, 12:40 AM

On 2002-09-03 17:13, jazz_pilgrim wrote:

To keep up with the new stuff, I listen to

Jazz FM (www.jazzfm.com)
Soul 24-7 radio (www.soul24-7.com)
SOLAR Radio (www.solarradio.com)

All three have web radio stations - the latter 2 being web only ...

I listen to soul24-7 all the time while I'm on line. Great choice of music and they often throw in some great disco tunes - I heard Bruni Pagan's Follow Me the other day and it really made my day.

**markydefad** · September 4th, 2002, 12:43 AM

Well thanks everyone who posted for all the input and commentary. I'm gonna print out these pages for future reference when shopping.

Feel free to add more and to comment on what's been posted so far. I'd like to hear from more people on your latest finds--and feel free to comment on other's selections--pro 0R con. Hey, we don't all have the same taste, right???? :lol:

I painfully remember being booed when I had Eruption's "One Way Ticket" played at our fictitious party!!!!!!! Who was booing louder Zeca, Blax OR Nano???? I think it was Zeca,... in a heckling mood!!!!! :razz:

**darrens** · September 4th, 2002, 04:58 AM

My suggestions would be as follows:

Stardust - Music sounds better with you (samples 'Fate' by Chaka Khan)
Modjo - Lady (samples 'Soup for one' by Chic)
Supermen Lovers - Starlight
David Morales - Needin' u (samples 'Let me down easy' by Pure Pleasure and 'My first mistake' by the Chi-Lites)
M&S presents the girl next door - Salsoul Nugget (samples 'Everyman' by Double Exposure
Spiller feat Sophie Ellis-Bextor - Groovejet (if this ain't love) (samples 'Love is you' by Carol Williams)
BelAmour - BelAmour (samples 'Disco Circus' by Martin Circus)
Alcazar - Crying at the discotheque (samples 'Spacer' by Sheila and B. Devotion)
Cassius - Feelin' for you (samples 'All this love that I'm givin' by Gwen McCrae)
Bucketheads - The Bomb (samples 'Streetplayer' by Chicago)
Phats and Small - Turn around (samples 'Reach up' by Toney Lee)

All of the above were Top 40 hits here in the UK, there is a generation of kids who like disco by virtue of resampling, and many don't know it!

Regards
Darren

**JussiK** · September 4th, 2002, 06:16 AM

Try St.Germain - they're a fingersnapping, acoustic French jazzgroove combo,in deep hues of mood indigo. Sampled artists include Marlena Shaw but the band's actual live vocalist is as savvy a chanteuse as they come. Also, seek out G-Litter whose El Coco-sampling, bongo mad "Paiste" 12" was being sold as "discoboogie from 1981" in London. The cd came out last May and it's filled with tasty disco plums. And It's done by a mate of mine.

**Nano** · September 5th, 2002, 05:56 PM

Jazz: yeah, I know "At the river" by Groove Armada, it's in their 1999 album "Vertigo", the one with the club hit "I see you baby". Most of the album is in the "At the river" vein though, which makes it perfect for after-hours.
Hey, don't worry! I catch up with some radio programs too. Sadly, with depreciation of the Argentine peso all import CDs are now absolutely out of reach for me. So I'm praying for a new Audio-Galaxy and hoping there's no DJLegal reading this post

**discosavvy** · September 5th, 2002, 06:02 PM

This summer, D'Influence came out with a faithful recreation of the 1980 disco hit "Taste of Bitter Love". It's on their album "D-Vas". This version has Romina Johnson for lead vocals, and comes complete with strings and horns. It's not one of my favorite songs, but it sounds great and it's probably worth a listen... and most of the album itself (which features many different singers) is said to be excellent.

**PhyllisHyman** · September 6th, 2002, 07:34 PM

Surprised it wasn't mentioned before but:
Banda Sonora - Guitarra g : samples Bourgie Bourgie with flamenco guitars (about a year old)
Also good are :
MAW - Backfired - stunning! India on vocals
Dark Boogie - Living my life - Product Deluxe - rhythmic latiny sleaze
X-press 2 - Lazy - samples Where Love lives but has David Byrne on vocals -
Feela - Sweet temptation - (Frankie Knuckles mix)- lush
A million Sons - Misti Blu - (Dorothy Morre sample)- yep it's just another broken heart
Rita campbell - Runaway Love
Una Mas - I will follow - bootlegged to death
Testament - We need love - Gospel house
Kathy brown - You give good love - just dirty house

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**zeca azevedo** · September 6th, 2002, 10:40 PM

On 2002-09-04 01:43, markydefad wrote:
Well thanks everyone who posted for all the input and commentary. I'm gonna print out these pages for future reference when shopping.

Feel free to add more and to comment on what's been posted so far. I'd like to hear from more people on your latest finds--and feel free to comment on other's selections--pro 0R con. Hey, we don't all have the same taste, right???? :lol:

I painfully remember being booed when I had Eruption's "One Way Ticket" played at our fictitious party!!!!!!! Who was booing louder Zeca, Blax OR Nano???? I think it was Zeca,... in a heckling mood!!!!! :razz:

Hey Marky,

Me, booing you? No way! :razz:

Of course, I hate ERUPTION (horrible name...), sounds like a sub BONEY M to me (is it possible?) :razz:

BTW, about the new stuff in music: I heard St. Germain and it's cool. I love ANGIE STONE, ANN NESBY, REMY SHAND and MARY J.

"Murder On The Dancefloor"? I can tell you this, the only thing that dies on the dancefloor when the DJ plays this song is GOOD TASTE! LOL! Murdering GOOD TASTE on the dancefloor! :razz:

Peace,

zeca azevedo, a cool retro cat