Super Rare Disco Grooves 28

[Funky Dude]

Just compiled volume 28. This one I decided to throw in some Aussie disco music such as Delilah, Marcia Hines and Marc Hunter (from Dragon) and most of the others are from my records with a couple of MP3s and one mainstream disco song. Anyhow here's the list:

1 – Marc Hunter – Island Nights 1979
2 – D.C. La Rue – Dancing With Strangers/Pound Me With Desire 1978
3 – Eruption – Movin’ 1977
4 – Jermaine Jackson – Look Past My Life 1976
5 – Marcia Hines – You Gotta Let Go 1975
6 – Love Unlimited Orchestra – Satin Soul 1974
7 – George McCrae – Don’t You Feel My Love 1979
8 – Delilah – Where Is The Love 1978
9 – Ritchie Family – The Best Disco In Town 1976 (full album length version)
10 – Commodores – I’m Ready 1975
11 – Duke Grant (Hammond Disco) – Salsa Woman 1976
12 – Ralph White – Fancy Dan 1978
13 – Tina Charles – Boogiethon 1976
14 – Salsoul Orchestra – Salsoul Rainbow 1975
15 – Barbara Acklin – I’ll Bake Me A Man 1973
16 – D.C. La Rue – Cathedrals 1976

[nrgbeat]

Funky, where did you first discover these songs?

Did you buy an old Billboard magazine and start downloading?

[QUINNY]

FunkyDude: This is not intended to be a downer, O.K.?
An interesting list if only for the diversity. Almost a scatter gun approach.
Just because you confuse me a little, what are you really into? Anything '70s, '70s Funk, Funk or what?
The trouble is that with your handle and your quote at the end of each post, I expect to see different tracks to say, D.C. LaRue, which is not at all funky (to me at least).
I'm not saying that you shouldn't like it or couldn't like it. I'm just curious.
Is it just that with such a tender age, you haven't had much of a chance to hear anything else?

[Funky Dude]

Answering your question I'm into:

70's funk (Kay Gees, Commodores, Parliament etc...)
70's disco (Juggy Jones, Van McCoy, Softones etc...)
70's Australian rock (Hush, Skyhooks, Sherbet, Stevie Wright etc..)
70's Glam rock (Sweet, Slade etc...)
some 70's heavy metal (AC/DC, KISS etc...)

I mostly listen to 70's disco and funk. As for my disco compilation I throw in whatever comes to mind and it doesn't have to be all funk. These compilations are a mixture of disco and funk and my "Super Hard Funk Of The 70's" compilations are totally funk.

I was wondering did you check out my funk compilations thread and my other volumes of "Super Rare Disco Grooves" lists?

[zeca azevedo]

On 2002-09-02 03:03, QUINNY wrote:
FunkyDude: This is not intended to be a downer, O.K.?
An interesting list if only for the diversity. Almost a scatter gun approach.
Just because you confuse me a little, what are you really into? Anything '70s, '70s Funk, Funk or what?

Hey Quinny,

what's wrong with "a scatter gun approach"? Nothing! Nobody needs to be perfectly logical when it comes to pop music. If one wants to mix polca with heavy metal and disco, one's free to do that. It's good to mix things, even if the mix is somewhat incoherent. Just my opinion about your confusion, ok?

zeca azevedo, the way is clear

[QUINNY]

Zeca: I'm not preaching. Nothing's wrong with the scatter gun approach, so long as you don't mind some comparative rubbish in with the good 'uns.
Personally I 'd rather shoot straight from the hip and bag stone cold killers if I can.

If only I knew what FunkyDude was into, I or you could possibly be of help to him, but his lists just confuse me, that's all.

[markydefad]

Funky Dude is a most ingenious and clever young man. His excellent taste and capacity for ferreting out old tunes, so many of which I have never heard of, is of constant amazement to me. He has singlehandedly reminded me of and introduced me to more good old tunes, than almost anyone here.

What amazes me, as I may have noted at another time, is that for most of us, this music was the soundtrack of our lives. He wasn't born when any of this stuff was released--therefore, he hears it with totally fresh and, I think, amazingly intuitive ears. I've marvelled as he finds new tunes and always seems to go for the good stuff (I've never heard "Outhouse", so I'll reserve judgment on that one!!!). :lol: But, I think he has demonstrated such excellent taste that I am in awe. He knows more about 1970's funk than I do, that's for sure.

He seems to be finding great stuff without any help from the rest of us, IMHO. In fact, I check out his lists to find out about good old/new-to-me shopping ideas for myself!!!!

There's all kinds of "good" old music....

Keep it eclectic, Funky Dude!!!!



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Markydefad

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[QUINNY]

Marky: And you know he hasn't even scratched the surface. If you want to see obscure funk titles go to http://www.funk45.com Now these guys are to funk what Northern Soul is to Disco.
Obscure or What!!!
However, obscure doesn't and has never meant good. "In the land of the blind a one eyed man is King"

[Blaxman]

Quinny,

Could you, please, nominate the blinds and the king here?

[Funky Dude]

QUINNY, I wouldn't exactly say I haven't scratched the surface, more like barely scratched the surface but mainly in the early/mid 1970's era so far. I know a hell-of-a-lot-more funk/disco than what a lot of Aussies know. I know a LOT of people that only know "YMCA", "Stayin' Alive", "Rivers Of Babylon" NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL NOT SCRATCHIN' THE SURFACE! Reason being we mainly had pop radio stations (at least in my area) and I haven't heard of too many obscure funk/disco radio stations in Australia besides the one Discohunter mentioned in Adelaide South Australia and the one in Brisbane Queensland someone mentioned last year. As I mentioned disco/funk records aren't as easy to come by in Australia as they are in UK and USA and a lot of the disco records I find are from disco artists that hit the pop charts although I do find more obscure ones from time to time.

I swear if it weren't for Napster, Audio Galaxy, Discomusic.com, funk45.com, Phil's "Disco-funk.com" UK site and A-Z pre-disco list and a few other sites I wouldn't have known half as much about disco and funk as I do now. My MP3 collection is over 1000, my record collection between 200 and 300, my CD collection maybe between 50 and 100 and don't forget I've only been collecting for 5 years.

Now you've been DJ'ing since 1972 so you've had a hell-of-a-lot-of exposure to disco and funk than what us young blokes have had. And I bet you've got over 10000 records too. Even if I was alive in the 70's, in Australia I would still not have as much exposure to disco/funk as you've had as Australia was exposed mainly to the chart toppers and a lot of us were more into rock at the time. Plus we had to import records and my mother told me that the fuckin' lazy arse Fraser government had little support for the music industry which also contributes to why we didn't get as much imports.

Anyhow I'm continuing collecting records and CDs and cassettes and hopefully there will be more good MP3 sharers coming up so by the time I'm your age I'm pretty sure I'll have scratched a lot of surfaces. Plus I'll give the 80's a shot too and as it so happens half the 12"s I have are from the 80's and they are pretty good too, but like I said I still prefer the 70's, I CAN'T HELP IT THAT'S THE WAY I AM!

We make our choices of what we want to listen to.

[QUINNY]

Blaxman: I'm not nominating anyone for blind or king. It's an English saying which I'll leave you to guess the meaning of.

FunkyDude: If you think it was easy getting American funk and soul imports in the early seventies, think again. The market for these types of records was incredibly small and it was only (some) DJs who bought them, because of (a) the cost and (b) the fact that there were so few clubs specializing in Funk & Soul. If anything, with MP3 it's so much easier to collect these things, plus with the internet you have a ready made reference library. Do you think there was a forum whereby I could have easily talked to DJs/funk & soul collectors from all over the world back in the '70s? In England we had Blues & Soul magazine (God bless 'em) as our bible, but that didn't mean you could actually buy all the tracks listed. It was common for the 1 specialist record shop in my area to get hold of say 5 copies of an import and not re-stock when they sold out. I would go to this shop up to 3 times a week to see if anything new had arrived and to make sure I didn't miss too much. But, I still probably missed plenty. There were no second hand shops with ex DJs collections up for grabs either.

Like I said, I'm not criticising, I'm just confused by someone who collects such a diverse spectrum of toons. Perhaps the differences between us is that (in the day) I collected records with the prime factor of danceability as my raison d'etre, whereas you are collecting merely to please yourself, with no need to satisfy anyone else. Also by living through it I would have been exposed to the 'natural winners' more than the also rans, because the less 'danceable?' records just wouldn't have seen the light of day.
So be it. This is not a put down O.K?
I hope this explains a few things.

[Blaxman]

On 2002-09-04 03:13, QUINNY wrote:

Blaxman: I'm not nominating anyone for blind or king. It's an English saying which I'll leave you to guess the meaning of.

Quinny,

I know quite well what this saying means. So, I dont need to guess nothing!
What I would like to know is its purpose! Certainly it is on your post for some reason, isnt it? :???:
So, what is the reason?

Oh, as a matter of interest, the saying come from the Latin "Inter caecos
regnat strabus" (Among the blind, the squinter rules) - it first appeared in
"Adagia" by the Dutch author Desiderius Gerhard Erasmus about 1500.

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[jazz_pilgrim]

On 2002-09-04 06:16, Blaxman wrote:
Quinny,

I know quite well what this saying means. So, I dont need to guess nothing!
What I would like to know is its purpose! Certainly it is on your post for some reason, isnt it? :???:
So, what is the reason?

Oh, as a matter of interest, the saying come from the Latin "Inter caecos
regnat strabus" (Among the blind, the squinter rules) - it first appeared in
"Adagia" by the Dutch author Desiderius Gerhard Erasmus about 1500.

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Bloody hell, Blax! What are you - a Professor or something? :lol: :lol:

[QUINNY]

Blaxman: I take my hat off to you. I posted it in reply to Markydefad's post. Just to say that he COULD be wrong to put his faith in FunkyDude as the font of ALL wisdom concerning Funk from the '70s. Anything wrong in that?

[Blaxman]

Yes, It's something wrong. Cause Funky Dude IS an important link of the chain we have here in this community. He is young (so what?) and interested in good (old) music! Cool!! Who said an young person cant be wise?

As far as I know, no one here have ALL the wisdom about anything, nor funk, disco, rock, samba, foxtrot, whatever! It's all about a chain reaction, one thing takes to another......like that 'relay topics', you know?

BTW, this is just a slight disagree, be sure you are an important link to this chain too, just keep personal comments out of the discussion.

Peace

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[Funky Dude]

QUINNY wrote:
FunkyDude: If you think it was easy getting American funk and soul imports in the early seventies, think again. The market for these types of records was incredibly small and it was only (some) DJs who bought them, because of (a) the cost and (b) the fact that there were so few clubs specializing in Funk & Soul. If anything, with MP3 it's so much easier to collect these things, plus with the internet you have a ready made reference library. Do you think there was a forum whereby I could have easily talked to DJs/funk & soul collectors from all over the world back in the '70s? In England we had Blues & Soul magazine (God bless 'em) as our bible, but that didn't mean you could actually buy all the tracks listed. It was common for the 1 specialist record shop in my area to get hold of say 5 copies of an import and not re-stock when they sold out. I would go to this shop up to 3 times a week to see if anything new had arrived and to make sure I didn't miss too much. But, I still probably missed plenty. There were no second hand shops with ex DJs collections up for grabs either.

Thanks for clearing that up. I really thought funk/disco was highly available in UK as well as in USA. Reasons being, I checked out Phil's disco website at http://www.disco-funk.com (he's also located in UK) and he has a big list of obscure disco and funk tracks and that's where I discovered quite a bit of rare disco/funk, I sort of assumed that funk/disco was widely available in UK. Also I've got a lot of 70's Top Of The Pops episodes in my music video collection and I noticed a number of disco/funk song hitting the British charts such as "Everybody Have A Good Time" by Archie Bell & The Drells, "Girls" by Moments and others (even "Movin'" by Brass Construction), and these songs would have been considered underground in Australia. And there's the Mastercuts Classic Funk/Jazz Funk/P-Funk/Salsoul/Disco etc. CDs which happen to be UK pressings and they have some real obscure funk and disco on them. Anyhow how wrong I was.

Like I said, I'm not criticising, I'm just confused by someone who collects such a diverse spectrum of toons. Perhaps the differences between us is that (in the day) I collected records with the prime factor of danceability as my raison d'etre, whereas you are collecting merely to please yourself, with no need to satisfy anyone else. Also by living through it I would have been exposed to the 'natural winners' more than the also rans, because the less 'danceable?' records just wouldn't have seen the light of day.
So be it. This is not a put down O.K?
I hope this explains a few things.

Yep that's correct, I collect what pleases me like other people collect what pleases them. But seeing that I'm not a DJ, do I need to buy music to satisfy others if that's what you meant by satisfying others? To satisfy my brothers all I need to buy is some Korn, Slipknot, Eminem, System Of A Down and they'll be very satisfied .

Blaxman: I take my hat off to you. I posted it in reply to Markydefad's post. Just to say that he COULD be wrong to put his faith in FunkyDude as the font of ALL wisdom concerning Funk from the '70s. Anything wrong in that?

Basically in the disco forum we're an online global community and we help each other out with songs we haven't heard but others might have. I may list a number of songs others haven't heard and others on this forum list a number of songs I haven't heard and I go to good old Audio Galaxy and download some of them. And your lists will help people in this forum to discover more funk and disco as well, say someone here goes to a record shop and finds a record of the artist/song you mentioned, he/she may wanna buy it to hear what it sounds like. But I agree with you of the fact that I'm not the font of all wisdom of funk as I scab info of songs from various websites and download them from Audio Galaxy, there's a SHITLOAD of disco and funk out there that I haven't even heard of. But basically the way I see it, we are a global community and we help each other out with discovering music we haven't heard.

Cheers

[QUINNY]

FunkyDude: Audio Galaxy's still doing its bit then? I kinda feel that MP3 cheapens music. I suppose if I were 30 years younger I MIGHT use it, but I don't know why people feel that music should be free. I don't expect a reply as I know this has been discussed before.
If everyone got to know about everything, where would we be?

[jazz_pilgrim]

On 2002-09-04 08:41, Funky Dude wrote:

QUINNY wrote:
FunkyDude: If you think it was easy getting American funk and soul imports in the early seventies, think again. The market for these types of records was incredibly small and it was only (some) DJs who bought them, because of (a) the cost and (b) the fact that there were so few clubs specializing in Funk & Soul. If anything, with MP3 it's so much easier to collect these things, plus with the internet you have a ready made reference library. Do you think there was a forum whereby I could have easily talked to DJs/funk & soul collectors from all over the world back in the '70s? In England we had Blues & Soul magazine (God bless 'em) as our bible, but that didn't mean you could actually buy all the tracks listed. It was common for the 1 specialist record shop in my area to get hold of say 5 copies of an import and not re-stock when they sold out. I would go to this shop up to 3 times a week to see if anything new had arrived and to make sure I didn't miss too much. But, I still probably missed plenty. There were no second hand shops with ex DJs collections up for grabs either.

Thanks for clearing that up. I really thought funk/disco was highly available in UK as well as in USA. Reasons being, I checked out Phil's disco website at http://www.disco-funk.com (he's also located in UK) and he has a big list of obscure disco and funk tracks and that's where I discovered quite a bit of rare disco/funk, I sort of assumed that funk/disco was widely available in UK. Also I've got a lot of 70's Top Of The Pops episodes in my music video collection and I noticed a number of disco/funk song hitting the British charts such as "Everybody Have A Good Time" by Archie Bell & The Drells, "Girls" by Moments and others (even "Movin'" by Brass Construction), and these songs would have been considered underground in Australia. And there's the Mastercuts Classic Funk/Jazz Funk/P-Funk/Salsoul/Disco etc. CDs which happen to be UK pressings and they have some real obscure funk and disco on them. Anyhow how wrong I was.

I was lucky for my home town was 35 miles south of London and we could easily get into London to buy all the latest imports. Even my home town did have an import record shop and it wasn't too bad. But for us it was dead easy to hop on a train up to London and spend away!! That was the late 70's, though, so I am not sure about the early 70's... There were plenty of soul record shops, specializing in US import soul at the time ...

And Quinny is right - imports were very expensive! But I always thought they were worth it for the superior vinyl quality and corresponding better quality of sound...

I always have vivid memories of a Sixth Form school trip to the British Museum in London...happily the teacher in charge was a bit of an idiot and easy to get round.. We all went together in the front entrance of the museum and most of us simply went straight out of the back entrance and off to the shops!! On the way home, the teacher couldn't understand why we all had bags of clothes and records!!!
On that day I bought ny first import Lp - Crown Heights Affair - with "Galaxy Of Love" and an import 12" - Sylvester - "You Make Me Feel Mighty Real" Cost me a lot of money!!

Not only did I buy Blues and Soul (I still do occasionally) but Black Echoes. There were loads of shops advertising in them, I remember. Wish I had kept all the old copies of these mags....

Aaaah. Those were the days ....

[QUINNY]

JAzz: In the early '70s in Southampton I was lucky to have a very good record shop, where the 'kid' who effectively ran it was into vinyl in a big way. He would try and obtain the best and latest of every genre. The one real dilemma I had was whether or not to buy that import there and then or take achance that it would be released on an English label. Soul, funk and r&b was generally a specialist field with comparatively little chance of crossing over, so it was a gamble.
The point is that I was earning about £3.00 per night and an import 7" cost about 65p.
I'm surprised you found U.S. pressings superior. I'd always thought the opposite, especially as the vinyl tended to 'burn' very easily with a little bit of back cueing, compared to our domestic product.

[jazz_pilgrim]

Did you ever manage to get up to London in the early 70's ?? I guess that was quite a journey?? I can believe what you say about Southampton ... Incidentally, I read a book recently about life in the 50's and 60's in Britain and it said that in the 60s Liverpool was an excellent place for import music for the "mod's as the music came straight from the USA into the UK via Liverpool ...

As for the quality of US pressings, I am not sure what back queuing is (Could you explain, please). But when I play the records on my hi-fi, I notice that, for me, the bass and the crispness of the sound is far superior on a US 12" than a UK 12".

I can give you a couple of examples from the 80's as I know you like that period...Circle City Band and "Magic" and also Krystol - "After The Dance" (US imports) - the bass really booms out of my speakers, and I have a decent system...whereas when I play, say, Ros Ryan - "Boy Where Have You Been" from the same period (UK pressing) it doesn't have that same quality of bass sound ...

[QUINNY]

JAZZ: Back cueing is cueing the record up for the start of it. i.e. you put it on the turntable, run it forward to the start and then turn it back about one third of a turn. That's how you would line the record up ready to play when you wanted it to.
In your examples of US vs. English pressings you're not comparing like for like. You really need to compare a US and English pressing of the same tune.

[jazz_pilgrim]

And why were the US pressings inferior to the UK ones for back queuing? I have seen other people mention that US pressings were inferior a few months ago..and I would be interested to know why.

I haven't got identical tunes on US/UK 12-inchers but I have 12-inchers of the same musical type. And from that I can notice the difference ....

[QUINNY]

It's to do with the (inferior?) vinyl used. It could also be to do with the weight of them. Many US 7" records are incredibly light compared to the average weight. And I've noticed that some US pressings are incredibly shiny compared to UK ones.

[DISCODISK]

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On 2002-09-04 18:27, jazz_pilgrim wrote:
... Incidentally, I read a book recently about life in the 50's and 60's in Britain and it said that in the 60s Liverpool was an excellent place for import music for the "mod's as the music came straight from the USA into the UK via Liverpool ...


great fact you picked out JAZZ thats true, do you remember a great film the b.b.c made with lenny henry on that very subject it was called "coast to coast" lenny met an american guy with loads of motown imports and they teamed up and became d.js and they were being chased by the mob a funny film with a great soundtrack and lots of fights breaking out at liverpool wedding parties !! strange the b.b.c have never repeated it big shame

[markydefad]

On 2002-09-04 07:46, QUINNY wrote:
Blaxman: I take my hat off to you. I posted it in reply to Markydefad's post. Just to say that he COULD be wrong to put his faith in FunkyDude as the font of ALL wisdom concerning Funk from the '70s. Anything wrong in that?

Quinny,

I assumed as much. I kept my mouth shut, however. Hey, I'm NOT saying Funky Dude is the arbiter of good taste in all things funk. BUT, he is very knowledgeable for a guy his age and very inquisitive about learning more. For that, I take my hat off to him. Also, I've observed him over the past couple of years as he's discovered new stuff and extolled it's virtues. More often than not, he's dead on with his opinions. When he found Al Downing's "I'll Be Holding On", I was proud of him. And as the years have gone on...his knowledge of 70's funk has exceeded mine, I'm sure.

Now, as for the prickly putdown comments that get veiled in ambiguous terms that could be interpreted in various ways.... I'm certainly aware of their presence and others have noted, off camera, so to speak, that they exist also. It's your style, I guess--But, be aware, that the "mud people" are aware that they are being zinged....whether the zingers are being couched in ambiguities or not.

Prickly, pompous putdowns = keeping my distance from most things Quinny. Sorry, I just felt it was time to say it. No real offense intended--BUT I am put off.