Bourgie Bourgie by Ashford & Simpson

**Rab** · August 26th, 2002, 03:06 PM

Does anyone know what the flip side was to the Bourgie Bourgie 12" single that Ashford & Simpson put out in 1977? This record seems to be almost impossible to locate.

**DanceMan** · August 26th, 2002, 08:31 PM

On 2002-08-26 16:06, Rab wrote:
Does anyone know what the flip side was to the Bourgie Bourgie 12" single that Ashford & Simpson put out in 1977? This record seems to be almost impossible to locate.

As far as I know....that record was only on an LP(?) at least here in America...as I never owned that title by them on a 12"....but it also exists with vocals by Gladys Knight & The Pips (Columbia)as well as an Instrumental version by John Davis & The Monster Orchestra (Sam Records)......all versions are excellent!

**PhyllisHyman** · August 27th, 2002, 07:05 AM

If you're looking for Bourgie Bourgie itself there was a triple vinyl box set (and double cd)called Larry Levan: Live at Paradise Garage released about two years ago here. Vinyl has the full length unmixed version along with Let Yourself Go -Supremes, My First Mistake - Chi-lites, At Midnight - T-connection and more. Worth checking out.

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**Robbie** · August 27th, 2002, 07:37 AM

Phyllis--

Is the Paradise Garage vinyl set available at Amazon.com??

**Bernie** · August 27th, 2002, 07:59 AM

Using the Amazon search box below shows only the CD is available

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ex...rniesdiscomusi

or

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/.../discomusiccom

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**NickNack** · August 27th, 2002, 09:08 AM

Never saw a 12" but that doesn't mean there wasn't one.

The album, if you're looking, is "Send It", 1977 on WB.

**jazz_pilgrim** · August 27th, 2002, 09:20 AM

"Bourgie Bourgie" appeared on a Warner Brothers UK 12" as the flip side of "Love Don't Make It Right" in 1980. I don't think it got an original release in 1977 on 12".

Incidentally, "Bourgie Bourgie" was a minor pop hit for Gladys Knight and the Pips in that same year of 1980. Maybe that's why Warner Bros decided to put out the Ashford and Simpson version on the B-side of a 12".....

**PhyllisHyman** · August 27th, 2002, 03:20 PM

Now I'm at home I can give the full listing:
A: Ashford & Simpson - Bourgie Bourgie 6.06
T Connection - At Midnight 9.43

B: Stephanie Mills - Put your body in it 5.59
Shalamar - Right in the Socket 6.45

C: Crown Heights Affair-Dreaming a Dream 7.04
Peoples Choice - Here we go again 4.55

D: Motown Sounds - Bad mouthin' 6.09
Jakki - Sun..sun..sun... 9.18

E: Change - Angel in my pocket 6.09
Janice McClain-Smack dab in the middle6.48

F: Supremes - Let yourself go 4.38
Chi-lites - My first mistake -5.43
Jermaine Jackson - Erucu 3.24

This is one hell of a compilation!

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**paul** · August 27th, 2002, 04:22 PM

Hey Bernie.
See what you started when you mentioned "Bourgie Bourgie." You had me pulling out my "Send It" album and you've other members hunting the song down. The force is strong with you

**Bernie** · August 27th, 2002, 04:33 PM

On 2002-08-27 17:22, paul wrote:
Hey Bernie.
See what you started when you mentioned "Bourgie Bourgie." You had me pulling out my "Send It" album and you've other members hunting the song down. The force is strong with you

Paul,

So you remember when I mentioned that I found the "Send It" LP a few weeks back? I've been playing this album since then and it is really good. Besides "Bourgie Bourgie" I especially like "By Way of Love's Express."

**paul** · August 27th, 2002, 04:51 PM

"By Way of Love's Express." Now cut it out Bernie. I don't want to see a thread on this song in addition to causing us with the album to run home and play it

**Robbie** · August 27th, 2002, 07:59 PM

Phyllis--

Where and how did you get that P.G. LP?? I think that listing is just as good (if not better) as the CD version!!

**PhyllisHyman** · August 29th, 2002, 07:20 AM

I got it here in London about a year ago. Haven't seen it around for a while though.

**Simon White** · September 11th, 2006, 03:53 AM

Just a quickie on this one..my copy of the UK 12" of Ashford and Simpson's version of 'Bourgie Bourgie' has a really odd phased but vastly speeded up section about halfway through as if the master tape slipped which makes it unplayable ...are they all like this? It's not on the UK 7" edit... is it on any of the CD versions?

**RetroRuss** · September 11th, 2006, 09:19 AM

Originally Written by Simon White

Just a quickie on this one..my copy of the UK 12" of Ashford and Simpson's version of 'Bourgie Bourgie' has a really odd phased but vastly speeded up section about halfway through as if the master tape slipped which makes it unplayable ...are they all like this? It's not on the UK 7" edit... is it on any of the CD versions?

I've read elsewhere that it was a production cock-up although there are later versions (even rarer then the original release) with this ommitted. Personally, my favourite version of this track is the Gladys Knight version - as far as I can tell the album version is the same as the 12" and a lot lot cheaper to get hold of in orignal vinyl.

**SandraDee** · September 11th, 2006, 12:47 PM

Originally Written by Headlamp

Personally, my favourite version of this track is the Gladys Knight version

I agree, Glad's version's so much snappier, & that's from a huge A & S fan!

**markydefad** · September 11th, 2006, 01:06 PM

So there's a "NON-MIXED" version of the Larry Levan--with the original length cuts??? I never knew that---I want the full version of "Sun...Sun...Sun"--not just the little excerpt on the mixed cd. Anyone have the cover image of this vinyl release?

**Simon White** · September 11th, 2006, 01:10 PM

Thanks for the info, Headlamp..look like I need to find the later 12" then !
Glad's version holds a bit of a mystery for me...I know all the vocal inflections but can't find the record...I'm sure I had it. :cry:

As for A & S verses Glad, Sandra..given that the A&S 12" version is an instrumental...Glad wins hands down ! ;)

There's a great more recent cover version too, I think it's The Watergates but I can't lay my hands on it at the moment.

**Bernie** · September 11th, 2006, 01:10 PM

Originally Written by markydefad

So there's a "NON-MIXED" version of the Larry Levan--with the original length cuts??? I never knew that---I want the full version of "Sun...Sun...Sun"--not just the little excerpt on the mixed cd. Anyone have the cover image of this vinyl release?

Marky,

It's in the Vault, but because of the strange spelling ()Ja kki) it may not show up on a search so here it is:

http://www.discomusic.com/records-more/3110_0_2_0_C/

**Simon White** · September 11th, 2006, 01:15 PM

I could go on for ever ....is 'Sun Sun Sun' the worst 'mixed' record of all time ? The 12" sounds like they just plonked the needle on three copies of the record at random ! The 7" works better.

**markydefad** · September 11th, 2006, 01:53 PM

Thanks, Bernie. So it is Ja Kki--not Ja-Kki as Joel Whitburn spells it. I thought I'd read that...most sources print name as Jakki.:roll:

No, I meant the cover of the Larry Levan vinyl set that the hunky phyllis hyman

mentioned with the long unmixed versions of the tunes...wondering if I passed it over thinking it was the same as the cd....;)

**SandraDee** · September 11th, 2006, 02:04 PM

Sun sun sun by Jakki (?) is available in its full version on the 'Disco City' CD.

**Simon White** · September 11th, 2006, 02:11 PM

I have the 12" here...its spelled JA KII with a little umlut like this ^ except its upside down (is that what they're called?) over the A.

However... the 7" has it spelled JAKKI with a little apostrophe over the A.
So that's just added to the confusion !