PEOPLES DIFFERENT PERCEPTIONS

[QUINNY]

It would appear that many browsers here are or were DJs.
What's always interested me is the different perceptions that DJs had(ve) of a record compared to the guys who used to go to the Disco to dance.
Let's face it, a DJ would love a record if it filled the dance floor, and could love it for this reason only, whereas a punter could hate it for the very same reason.
On a purely personal note, yes I'd get fed up with the big hits that I'd already played to death, but I realized they also paid the bills and generally there weren't enough current/new records that would get everone moving at any one period in time. Disco was all about music fashion and keeping up with it. Very few records had an extended shelf life because there was always something newer that was compelling itself to be played.
My own thoughts are that it was easier for a punter to love a record because they had the luxury of playing it as many times as they wished and they could play it at home or in the car and really get to know a tune extememly well. As a DJ, sometimes playing 6 hours a night, 7 days a week the last thing I wanted to do was to take my work home with me (unless it was female, blonde, curvaceous and hot).
The same goes for knowing the lyrics to a song. As a DJ I'd be working hard, concentrating on so many factors. I'm afraid to say it, but lyrics meant absolutely diddly squat to me. I am absolutely amazed at how great some of the posters here are at identifying records from just a few lines of lyrics. Well done guys. I only really listened to the rhythm and bass lines. That's all that really interested me as a mixing DJ. Sad but true. I was there for one reason, to keep the dance floor as full as possible and that's what it took for me to achieve that goal.
Anyone else have any other angles?

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[QUINNY]

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HEY GUYS IS THIS TOO DEEP FOR YOU?

[nonkel808]

Hey quinny,
you go waaaaaaaay to deep for us! :lol:

NAAAH, thats not true, it's because you phrased it al so well that there's no need for reply. Or is there?

Let's say that you're right about the vocal thing. I have that feeling too. I focus mostly on the rythms, the beats, thevariations in sound, that i forget to listen to the songtexts. Maybe it's because as a Belgian i don't always understand the exact lyrics that good. Mostly i only remember the catchy chorusses, and that's it. That's why I mostly preffer the DUB-version of a disco song, just the music with only snippets of the vocals.
Altough sometimes i really like those sing-a-long tunes. And as you said, a lot of the partypeople do so too!

Anyways, i just wanted to say that you don't have to feel bad if ya never recognise a song in the lyrics-quis, 'cause i never do either! :lol:

peace,
808

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[Jeff H]

On 2002-08-22 08:33, QUINNY wrote:
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HEY GUYS IS THIS TOO DEEP FOR YOU?

Quinny--

I am appalled by the arrogance in your comment!

Your original post seemed to be directed primarily at DJs (which most of us here are not, I'd guess; we're just music lovers) so we "punters" probably have nothing significant to add. (The word "punters" even sounds derogatory, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that it's British slang that I'm just not familiar with.)

I can definitely understand that you could get tired of playing a hit record every night, but then that's why a DJ is in the booth: to keep the club's patrons entertained.

Writer Fran Liebowitz made a sharp observation when she wrote years ago that (and I'm paraphrasing as best I can remember) "as a DJ, your job is not to impress visiting DJs with an 18-minute African tribal chant...." I knew a DJ at a local club who once told me his goal was to "educate" his crowd. Needless to say, he didn't last long at his job.

Just a few thoughts from one of those punters who happens to appreciate the vocals too, one of the nobodies on the dance floor--without whom the DJ would be out of a job.

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[QUINNY]

JeffH:
Imagine Miss Piggy when you read this.
Moi arrogant mon ami, mais jamais.

Punter IS a British slang word for........er, punter.

Put a smilie after everything I write and it'll take on a whole new perspective.

[jazz_pilgrim]

Jeff, "punter" is English slang for club-goer or customer (a guy who goes into a betting shop would also be known as a "punter" - I think that's where it originally came from...) and is not derogatory in any way, I can assure you. In fact, I like to use the term, myself ...

[QUINNY]

I guess we both come from planet DJ? A sometimes cold, isloted, lonely place and at others a place that could really cook.

[Blaxman]

On 2002-08-22 08:33, QUINNY wrote:
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HEY GUYS IS THIS TOO DEEP FOR YOU?

No, it's "too low"!!! Since I dont care about mixing, even being an occasional DJ.

However, I'm really like the instrumental part of the songs. I like the vocal arrangements in second and finally, the lyrics (since I'm a foreigner and I cant understand some words quite well when somebody is singing).

Peace



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[Bernie]

On 2002-08-22 10:31, jazz_pilgrim wrote:
Jeff, "punter" is English slang for club-goer or customer (a guy who goes into a betting shop would also be known as a "punter" - I think that's where it originally came from...) and is not derogatory in any way, I can assure you. In fact, I like to use the term, myself ...

Jazz,

Thanks for explaining that one since I was wondering as well.

[NickNack]

On 2002-08-22 07:44, QUINNY wrote:
It would appear that many browsers here are or were DJs.
Let's face it, a DJ would love a record if it filled the dance floor, and could love it for this reason only, whereas a punter could hate it for the very same reason.

Punter... I'm surprised most of us here don't remember Jussi using this expressing. He's done it before, complaining about "keeping the punters" happy.

On a purely personal note, yes I'd get fed up with the big hits that I'd already played to death, but I realized they also paid the bills and generally there weren't enough current/new records that would get everone moving at any one period in time.

I agree with the first half of this sentence. Getting fed up with the 'hits' was easy. It's one of the reasons I NEVER listened to the radio when I was a dj. They also paid the bills, as you say, since recognition helped get people on the floor.

The second part, "new music getting people on the floor", I think that depended on where you worked and the crowd you worked with. I had the good fortune of working clubs simultaneously that were 'direct opposites' in how they approached music. The smaller venue wanted mostly 'current hits' and a minimum of new introduction. This type of playing was also 'pushed' by the management. Every dj but one (my friend Larry) who had worked there before me played in this manner. The 'institution' was how you say, "unbreakable". The other club was a combo of both, depending on the nights you worked. This being an afterhours, these were die-hard party people. They would let you know that "the tourists have gone, take off that radio ****", in a very polite manner, at first. Once they got to know you, it was "we're here, put that new **** on, baby". Here, management was clear that if you didn't or couldn't play new stuff, go home. DON'T DO THE TOP 40! Needless to say, I liked this club the best.

Disco was all about music fashion and keeping up with it. Very few records had an extended shelf life because there was always something newer that was compelling itself to be played.

Again, yes and no. We were flooded with new music from the 'pools' whilst at the same time hitting up the promoters and buying a ton of imports. Even with that, many songs became part of that special group that you never took out of the crate. The top three for one club was Voyage, "East to West"; Boris Midney's "Beautiful Bend"; Costandino's, "Romeo & Juliet". At the other club, it was MFSB, "Love is the Message"; J5, "Forever Came Today"; First Choice, "Dr. Love". Different strokes, as they say, but they wanted to hear at least one of these about EVERY weekend.

My own thoughts are that it was easier for a punter to love a record because they had the luxury of playing it as many times as they wished and they could play it at home or in the car and really get to know a tune extememly well. As a DJ, sometimes playing 6 hours a night, 7 days a week the last thing I wanted to do was to take my work home with me (unless it was female, blonde, curvaceous and hot).

Your example for the punter is more than likely true. As for me, if and when I took my work home (did I do that ), well, substitue 'male' for female, 'any color is just fine' for blond and 'hard pecs' for curvaceous and I think we agree here as well. :lol:

The same goes for knowing the lyrics to a song. As a DJ I'd be working hard, concentrating on so many factors. I'm afraid to say it, but lyrics meant absolutely diddly squat to me. I am absolutely amazed at how great some of the posters here are at identifying records from just a few lines of lyrics. Well done guys. I only really listened to the rhythm and bass lines. That's all that really interested me as a mixing DJ. Sad but true. I was there for one reason, to keep the dance floor as full as possible and that's what it took for me to achieve that goal.

Well, just look at the amount of quizzes I win here and you know I'm with you on this one. The lyrics were the last things on my mind. It was all about the beat, the groove, the hook, the 'something' in that song that got their asses out of the seats. I realized when I was into the lyrics that most likely this song would be on my "Favorites" list.

Nice topic, Quinny.

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Nicky

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[jazz_pilgrim]

I would say, as a long-time punter (if I remeber tonite - I will give you the Oxford English Dictionary definition ...) and occasional DJ, that I loved everything about the music.. Depending on the music type, I would love a record for ....

On the disco records - obviously it would be the hypnotic bass lines (Cocomotion) or the percussion breaks (Celi Bee - One Love) that got me. For me, purely in terms of dancing to them, never mixing..

On the funk side the choppy bass guitar led rhythms (ie a good groove!) (Brick House, Cameo - On The One) and the chants (JB's - Gimme Some More, Kool and the Gang - Funky Stuff)

ON the jazz side it would be the instrumental solos, preferably in comjuction with a latin-type rhythm that moved me - perfect examples being Lonnie Liston Smith with Expansions, Willie Bobo with Always There...


On the Soul side, some gutbucket soul singing like Bobby Womack with "Tell Me Why". Orgasmic!!! (Am I allowed to use that?? Well - I just did!!)

On the slow jam side - a strong song (with a beginning, a middle and an end), excellent vocals and lovely swirly instrumentation -eg Deniece Williams - Free, LTD - Shine On

I was never into BPM's... But I have been amazed to read over the past couple of days that versions of the same song were released at different speeds on 12" and LP. I never knew that!!!

[sutnop]

MY Point being its not to deep

I think is sad

when you say you don't take your work with you.....

I have my Job revolving in my HEad for 24/day because I love it....

If I didn't love it I would be miserable....

So As a DJ that loves and appreciates music. How can you be sick of it at the end of the night...

If its been to many beats and rhytms Just put on something mellow

like an old Aretha Record
or some Delfonics
or Stylistics
or go deeper with some Crusader jazz

I mean the possibilities are endless.....

[Jeff H]

OK, Quinny and Nick, this punter would like to better understand what you're talking about.

I mean, what songs did you get really sick of? What songs were considered "radio ****" by your hardcore crowd? Which songs did you consider cool and uncool?

I could probably guess at least some of your answers, but I'm curious to hear what you DJs have to say...

[NickNack]

On 2002-08-23 09:00, Jeff H wrote:
OK, Quinny and Nick, this punter would like to better understand what you're talking about.

I mean, what songs did you get really sick of?

Well, right off the bat, let's start with the two pieces of vinyl I sailed across the dancefloor: "Evita" by Festival and "Dr. Love" by First Choice. When I walk in the bar/club at 8:30 so I'm ready to start at 9, don't come in my booth at 9:15 asking for "Dr. Love". :roll:

Others: "The Boss" - Diana Ross
"I Like You" - Phyllis Nelson
"I Will Survive" - Gloria Gaynor (goes without saying)
"If You Could Read My Mind" - Viola Wills

This could get long but as we've all said before, the songs aren't bad, it was just overkill for me.

What songs were considered "radio ****" by your hardcore crowd?

As I said befoe, I didn't listen to the radio. I meant that, it's not some off-hand remark. The only way I knew I was getting too 'top ten' is if a friend or regular thought I was playing "too commercial". That was the ultimate dj insult back then: commercial = boring.

I remember putting on "Gotta Keep Dancin'" by Carrie Lucas and someone yelling, "Not again!" 95% (96, 97) of the Saturday Night Fever album was taboo. (Thank god I never saw that movie.) Most of us had played the bulk of the interesting songs off that album before it was an album. Michael Jackson was not well received. "Beat It", "Billie Jean", "Thriller", all overplayed.

Which songs did you consider cool and uncool?

Cool:
"Pull Yourself Together" - Buddy Miles
"Take Me Down" - Johnny Bristol
"Love Thang" - First Choice
"Running Away" - Roy Ayers (sorry, Blax )
"Make That Feeling Come Again" - Beautiful Bend
ANYTHING by Barry White / LU / LUO
"Another Cha-Cha" - Santa Esmeralda
"Touch Me, Take Me" - Black Light Orchestra
"Date With the Rain"/"Girl,... Change of Mind" - Eddie Kendricks

Uncool:
"Boogie Motion" - Beautiful Bend
"Happy People" - The Temptations
"The Love I Lost" - Seventh Avenue (weak cover)
"Jump" - Pointer Sisters
"Undercover Lover" - Debbie Jacobs (flip side was much better)
"Don't Cry for Me Argentina" - Festival
"Stayin' Alive"/"Night Fever" - Bee Gees
"Where Is My Man" - Eartha Kitt (I'm not into 'camp')

I could probably guess at least some of your answers, but I'm curious to hear what you DJs have to say...

Truthfully, it's really hard for me to remember a lot of the songs. I wish I had my database set up. I don't think you're going to get a lot from the lists I put up there. What I wanted to get across to Quinny and everyone was that I really liked introducing "new" music. That meant using a lot of imports to fill out the evening and 'enhance' the domestic/commercial product we were given. Some clubs/crowds went for it, others didn't. I kept my head on straight by not knowing or caring if a song was commercially successful. That way, the only judgment I used for playing it was, "Will it work in this set?"

I knew dj's who NEVER played anything but imports. They thought they were being avant-garde but in truth, they were boring people to death. It's got to be a give-and-take with the dj and the dancefloor. Sure, we got bored with it quicker because sometimes we had to play them 4, 5, 6 nights a week. But, that's not 'the punter's' problem, is it? When I said that the crowd didn't want "radio music" what that meant was they didn't want me to 'sound like the radio', playing the same top 40 over and over. Sure, they dance to hit songs (whether they'd admit to it is another story) but they also loved to hear something, anything they hadn't heard before. Some would come into the booth just to look at the label, knowing it would be something 'foreign' they had not seen. If it was hot, the guys in the record stores could tell by how many of the crowds came in Saturday and Sunday mornings asking for the same song. That was us, pushing music, and I really got into that. Holding a dancefloor on something unknown meant, a) I knew good music when I heard it and, b) I mixed it well enough for them to be interested in it. That's what kept me interested during those 10 hours or so behind the tables.

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When you're under the Love Spell, be sure to Catch The Rhythm

Nicky

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[Nano]

Nick: reading the 2 last paragraphs of your post I think you really have put it like it was/is. I remember what a nice feeling it was to be dancin' to something I never had heard and liking it inmediately, then go to the booth to check what it was!
This is really a source of discussion every time me and my mates make up a party. They just want to hear the hits. I tell them this is not Top-40 radio! Top-40 Nostalgic radio, that is.
Last year I was in a rave-kind night attended by French DJ Laurent Garnier. I danced like crazy for three or four hours and didn't recognize any of the songs. It was just great grooves, flawlessly mixed by Garnier.
I totally agree with your comments.

[DanceMan]

On 2002-08-23 20:31, NickNack wrote:

On 2002-08-23 09:00, Jeff H wrote:
OK, Quinny and Nick, this punter would like to better understand what you're talking about.

I mean, what songs did you get really sick of?

Well, right off the bat, let's start with the two pieces of vinyl I sailed across the dancefloor: "Evita" by Festival and "Dr. Love" by First Choice. When I walk in the bar/club at 8:30 so I'm ready to start at 9, don't come in my booth at 9:15 asking for "Dr. Love". :roll:

Others: "The Boss" - Diana Ross
"I Like You" - Phyllis Nelson
"I Will Survive" - Gloria Gaynor (goes without saying)
"If You Could Read My Mind" - Viola Wills

This could get long but as we've all said before, the songs aren't bad, it was just overkill for me.

What songs were considered "radio ****" by your hardcore crowd?

As I said befoe, I didn't listen to the radio. I meant that, it's not some off-hand remark. The only way I knew I was getting too 'top ten' is if a friend or regular thought I was playing "too commercial". That was the ultimate dj insult back then: commercial = boring.

I remember putting on "Gotta Keep Dancin'" by Carrie Lucas and someone yelling, "Not again!" 95% (96, 97) of the Saturday Night Fever album was taboo. (Thank god I never saw that movie.) Most of us had played the bulk of the interesting songs off that album before it was an album. Michael Jackson was not well received. "Beat It", "Billie Jean", "Thriller", all overplayed.

Which songs did you consider cool and uncool?

Cool:
"Pull Yourself Together" - Buddy Miles
"Take Me Down" - Johnny Bristol
"Love Thang" - First Choice
"Running Away" - Roy Ayers (sorry, Blax )
"Make That Feeling Come Again" - Beautiful Bend
ANYTHING by Barry White / LU / LUO
"Another Cha-Cha" - Santa Esmeralda
"Touch Me, Take Me" - Black Light Orchestra
"Date With the Rain"/"Girl,... Change of Mind" - Eddie Kendricks

Uncool:
"Boogie Motion" - Beautiful Bend
"Happy People" - The Temptations
"The Love I Lost" - Seventh Avenue (weak cover)
"Jump" - Pointer Sisters
"Undercover Lover" - Debbie Jacobs (flip side was much better)
"Don't Cry for Me Argentina" - Festival
"Stayin' Alive"/"Night Fever" - Bee Gees
"Where Is My Man" - Eartha Kitt (I'm not into 'camp')

I could probably guess at least some of your answers, but I'm curious to hear what you DJs have to say...

Truthfully, it's really hard for me to remember a lot of the songs. I wish I had my database set up. I don't think you're going to get a lot from the lists I put up there. What I wanted to get across to Quinny and everyone was that I really liked introducing "new" music. That meant using a lot of imports to fill out the evening and 'enhance' the domestic/commercial product we were given. Some clubs/crowds went for it, others didn't. I kept my head on straight by not knowing or caring if a song was commercially successful. That way, the only judgment I used for playing it was, "Will it work in this set?"

I knew dj's who NEVER played anything but imports. They thought they were being avant-garde but in truth, they were boring people to death. It's got to be a give-and-take with the dj and the dancefloor. Sure, we got bored with it quicker because sometimes we had to play them 4, 5, 6 nights a week. But, that's not 'the punter's' problem, is it? When I said that the crowd didn't want "radio music" what that meant was they didn't want me to 'sound like the radio', playing the same top 40 over and over. Sure, they dance to hit songs (whether they'd admit to it is another story) but they also loved to hear something, anything they hadn't heard before. Some would come into the booth just to look at the label, knowing it would be something 'foreign' they had not seen. If it was hot, the guys in the record stores could tell by how many of the crowds came in Saturday and Sunday mornings asking for the same song. That was us, pushing music, and I really got into that. Holding a dancefloor on something unknown meant, a) I knew good music when I heard it and, b) I mixed it well enough for them to be interested in it. That's what kept me interested during those 10 hours or so behind the tables.

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When you're under the Love Spell, be sure to Catch The Rhythm

Nicky

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Hi Nicky: Always interesting commentaries from you...you always have a lot to say and you always say it so well!.....My not being a DJ, but a music critic (BOO!!, I know) back in the day, and having to deal with mostly a gay readership, (counting many of the promotional people), I was encouraged to write about domestic label music, of course, as it pleased the bulk of the record buying public and helped them know if something was deemed acceptable for their listening and dancing pleasure, yet my editors also wanted me to review some of the music they got from their foreign friends or what they bought on European shopping sprees....the pay-off to me, musically, was very rarely a let down....particularly the music those foreign shores were introducing in '77 - '79 ---- months before it was snatched up for stateside release, which was usually the "kiss of death" for these Imports in any self-respecting discoteque/dance bar....I also agree with you that it would be better to just play what is good without knowing or caring if it is successful or not....

But, from a dancer's point of view, I (and many others, I know)had a whole different perspective. As much as I loved hearing the music at home, club sound systems and concerts, etc......when I was on the dance floor, particularly on a huge dancefloors, many of those EURO pieces tended to drone on after awhile and even the funk got bogged down in sameness.....I dealt with each piece of music as something to create with my feet and fortunately, for me, songs like "The Boss," "I Don't Want To Lose Your Love," "Lovin'Is Really My Game," "Your Love Is a Life Saver," "Jump," and one of my all time favorites, the never-played-enough, "It's Not What You Got, It's How You Use It," worked like magic on my feet and for many others, I imagine...those are really big reasons, as well as the catchy sing-a-longs for many of those songs, why people come up to the DJ booths and request them.....I know it got to be tiring for you, the DJ, to keep playing those songs, but it became a nightime fantasy for the dancers. (I am talking about DANCERS, not people who bobbed up and down while doing ethyl)

By the way, my all time favorite movie, for many of the reasons listed above, is Saturday Night Fever, I stopped counting how many times I have seen it....Yes, the LP was sugar-coated dance pop, minus the former club hits it included, but you have to admit, no movie, before or since, has been able to reproduce the kind of atmosphere that makes the Disco Dancers the stars of the evening.....and that is the main reason which made the 70's disco experience so Alive and Exciting for me....!

[QUINNY]

As I started this whole thing I guess I ought to be a gentleman and post a reply.
Let's get it straight from the start, this is a personal thing and whatever I write is not intended to insult anyone, O.K.?
Some of the records I hated with a passion were:
Ain't No Stoppin' Us Now - McFadden & Whitehead (loved Jocko's Rhythm Talk though)
Running Away - Roy Ayers (I love Jazz Funk but this was hyped out of existence)
The Cocomotion - El Coco (cheesy in the extreme)
Ring My Bell - Anita ward (I'll never understand how this was such a big hit)
OOps Upside your head - Gap Band (why the **** did someone re-invent it as the rowing song? That turned it into a freak's tune)
Tainted Love - Soft Cell ( amateur, too fast,a sign of things to come, in what was my least favourite year)

What was cool?
Anything different or exciting that kept the joint jumpin'. Any record that made people come to my Disco 'cos I was the only one playing it.

What was uncool?
Almost anything that NEEDED playing more than twice (until it became a golden oldie, then Oh, what sweet memories!)

If you accepted that musicians had to eat, then it's obvious that new music was absolutely vital. I would always try to play at least 30% new music (less than say 6 weeks old) any night for this reason alone, plus I bought 95% of my records, so I had a vested interest to get some mileage out of them. That's not to say that I didn't play the hits, of course I did, but within what I considered a well balanced, rounded playlist.
Like many jocks I tended to use my own gut reaction to records together with knowledge gained from reading record reviews etc. I quite often found myself out on a limb, because I would always play what I felt was good or right and this didn't always match everyone else's views. I was not afraid to be different or to go it alone. I put MY heart and MY soul into it. If we were all the same think of how boring life would be. So if somebody didn't like what I played....tough.
That sounds arrogant, but it is the essence of any commercial transaction between a professional and the customer. As a customer you have the luxury to move on if you don't like the goods. As the DJ you had to make the most of your situation for yourself, 'cos all those guys on the dancefloor didn't live with you 24/7.
You're either accepted or you're not. People either like you or they don't, it's that simple. I was a pro DJ for 15 years.




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[nrgbeat]

It's interesting because where I live (suburban New York State) dj's had to program a top 40 program back in the day.

This may be changing in the last few years, but in the 80's a dj had to play the Janet Jackson, Whitney Houston, Gloria Estefan radio staples or they were booed off the dance floor.

[Jeff H]

Well, I'm glad I asked! Very interesting answers--even if I do disagree with some of the love 'em/hate 'em and cool/uncool selections.

From the perspective of a punter I think Nrg is right when he suggests that dance floors these days are too much about commercial product. Which is probably one of the reasons I've given up going out dancing except for "trash (don't you hate that description?) disco" nights. Better I should stay at home where the beer is free and play my Festival LP (sorry, Nick!) than take my bitter old self out and bitch about "the music these days."

I LOVE many of your choices, DanceMan (but we need to teach you how to edit other posters' quotes! ).

And Nick, you're not into camp? Are you SURE you're gay?! :lol:

[disco1999]

As a frequent club customer, I hated to go to clubs where Gloria Gaynor was played repeatedly and other commercial "radio friendly" songs. I personnally sticked to places where the hardcore stuff was played and where 2/3 of the tracks wouldn't be recognized. Unfortunately most of the people didn't like the underground stuff.

As a DJ if you liked to play more obscure songs you HAD to choose the appropriate clubs to spin.

[QUINNY]

It's strange how often 'I Will Survive' comes up in these forums. From my own personal recollection, In England it was not a heavy, heavy play disc at the time (and was it actually the B side on initial 12" pressings?). I remember it being more of a mid order disc in terms of must playability. Maybe it was just me being single mindedly different? It's only really gained cult status/ ultra popularity since.

[jazz_pilgrim]

On 2002-08-23 20:31, NickNack wrote:

Which songs did you consider cool and uncool?

Cool:
"Running Away" - Roy Ayers (sorry, Blax )

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When you're under the Love Spell, be sure to Catch The Rhythm

Nicky

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MY MAIN MAN!!! :grin: :grin:

If ever you come to London, I owe you a drink!! :grin:

[Masdefi]

On 2002-08-22 08:33, QUINNY wrote:
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HEY GUYS IS THIS TOO DEEP FOR YOU?

Hey Sir Quinny, thanks for existing! :lol:

[QUINNY]

That's LORD Quinny to you!!. I get a feeling I am one of the elder statesmen here.
I shall remember to ask the question again as it certainly provoked some responses.
Hey Guys, is this too deviant for you?

[NickNack]

On 2002-08-24 07:58, Jeff H wrote:
Well, I'm glad I asked! Very interesting answers--even if I do disagree with some of the love 'em/hate 'em and cool/uncool selections.

Better I should stay at home where the beer is free and play my Festival LP (sorry, Nick!)

Not as sorry as I was. I had to go out and buy the damn thing this time so I could have it for the next night.

And Nick, you're not into camp? Are you SURE you're gay?! :lol:

:grin:

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When you're under the Love Spell, be sure to Catch The Rhythm

Nicky

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