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Thread: Is that NYC Cabaret law for real?

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    Sorry to double post. I just wanted to get answers on it....I posted this reply on that other long thread:

    "Wait wait wait LOL..Is that link a joke??!! It's really illegal to dance in NYC? How? Why? When? LOL Does that refer to in public, but excludes dance clubs?? It cannot be illegal to dance in clubs....someone explain this never before heard law by a NY native (the land of the free, huh?? :rolling my eyes:)"

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    So tell me Anthony - what clubs are good to go dancing at? So if they arrest us, maybe we can wear matching handcuffs.
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    Cabaret Laws have been around in New York for as long as I can remember. (Don't go there... ) Without reading all the info on that link, if it's saying you need a license before people can dance in your establishment, then yes, it's true.

    Example: West Village, NYC, bars like Kellers or Sneakers were, at one time, kind of strict about the dancing. They were actually concerned they could get their liquor license revoked because they didn't have a cabaret license. After a while, it seemed nobody, including the cops, gave a damn anymore so people just went with the flow. So yeah, as far as I knew, in New York City: No license, no shakey the booty. :grin:


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    Our recent NY to LA office transplant, Pete's favorite joke is to tap people on the shoulder when anyone starts to dance and say sternly "Watch it...we don't have a cabaret license". :lol:

    Now I know why that's especially funny. Duh!!!! :roll:
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    Wow...I have nothing else to say..just wow lol

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    From what I read, things were way different in the old jazz days. All musicians needed a "cabaret card" to play in the NY clubs (the now famous 42th Street places where be-bop started). That individual license could be revoked if the player was caught doing some felony -i.e. possessing drugs. Because in the Fifties everybody was mimicking Charlie Parker's habits (that is, putting every kind of stuff imaginable through their veins), it was pretty common for a jazz musician to be prived of his card. Without a card he couldn't play, and sometimes couldn't record either (this happened to piano player and famous composer Thelonious Monk during 1950-55). Another case in point was Parker himself (banned from his own Birdland club) and Billie Holiday, who couldn't sing in a NY club for years (but she could do theaters because of her fame as a balladeer).
    So, it seems things were serious on those days.

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