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    Songs from the school of the Love Unlimited

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    Presently I can't get past playing this new discovery :

    MILLIONAIRE by Dave Crawford I'm really enjoying its trueness in sound and spirit to that of the GenePage / Barry White compositions .

    I'd like to make a CD of songs that might fall into the "sounds like" category of the Mighty Maestro. 8)

    Disco Funk has already mentioned the exquisitely White-like HANG ON IN THERE BABY by Johnny Bristol ...

    So I'm wondering if there are others that come to mind ??........

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    The Gene Page produced stuff also uses the same Love Unlimited Orchestra sound and group of musicians. But they aren't credited as such on the LPs.

    I thought that Floyd Smith song 'I Just Can't Give You Up" is very Barry White-ish (the melody even sounds like 'Satin Soul').

    Black Light Orchestra also did a tune that was a tribute to Barry White called 'Tribute To Barry'.

    Rick Dees did a parody of Barry White called 'Barely White' on his Disco Duck LP that obviously sounds like a Barry White/Love Unlimited Orchestra track.

    Johnny Bristol used the same musicians on Feelin The Magic as well, but had distanced himself from the copy-cat Barry White sound. Still, it does sound like it could have been a LUO production.

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    The Fun Lovin' Criminals. Check out their site and be amazed by their version of "I Love N.Y." Verry Barry :lol:

    Also take a listen to their "Love Unlimited (Barry White Saved My Life)"

    http://www.flcnyc.com/

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    Gene Page's WILD CHERRY might fit in ..... ( is that Angela Bofill ??)


    this is not the lusher Love Unlimited sound I'm really looking for ....
    but ....
    Le Pamplemousse LE SPANK would mix well /has similar structure to ITS ECSTASY WHEN YOU LAY DOWN NEXT TO ME ... if I were to include that Barry White song ......

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    Re: Songs from the school of the Love Unlimited

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    So I'm wondering if there are others that come to mind ??........

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    this one might fight your compilation...
    Felice Taylor -I feel love coming on /Bob Keene Orchestra -coming on again (instrumental of the same tune)
    produced and written by Barry White in 1967, way before his own solo outings and very similar of his Love Unlimited work later on.
    The intro sounds like 'standing in the shadows of love' and throughout the song flashes of 'you're the first, you're the last' pop up. Nice!
    and yes, 'it's ecstasy' definitely is a must for any real Barry White fans...
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    I can think of three:

    Just As Long As We're Together - Gloria Scott
    Everlasting Love - Carl Carlton
    Strange Funky Games And Things - Jay Dee

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    Re: Songs from the school of the Love Unlimited

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    Thanks all !!!


    I've got two more :


    Fania All Stars ---DESAFIO1976

    no wonder: written and produced by Gene Page ( this is classic Love Unlimited )

    anyone know who these " all-stars" are ??? ....on Columbia .....
    "desafio " gets whisperd like "do the hustle ' does on Van's THE HUSTLE ....what does it mean...... "challenge " ???


    and
    Real Thing --- YOU TO ME ARE EVERYTHING pye
    with a British application of "the theme" .....


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    Re: Songs from the school of the Love Unlimited

    [quote=remicks]*****

    Presently I can't get past playing this new discovery :

    MILLIONAIRE by Dave Crawford I'm really enjoying its trueness in sound and spirit to that of the GenePage / Barry White compositions .

    I'd like to make a CD of songs that might fall into the "sounds like" category of the Mighty Maestro. 8)

    Disco Funk has already mentioned the exquisitely White-like HANG ON IN THERE BABY by Johnny Bristol ...

    So I'm wondering if there are others that come to mind ??........


    Remicks-you must..MUST...check out "Love Song" by
    Simon Said(a 45 on Atco-maybe1975?)a perfect
    Love Unlimited faux morsel-with whispery,dramatic
    spoken parts,lush strings and a gorgeous melody.
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    Remicks, While I don't know much that would sound close to Barry White & Love Unlimited, I just had to mention my favorite album by the Orchestra:



    Another album that I still await a formal re-issue on CD. I truly feel that when an artist such as the great Barry White passes on, The legacy within the music left behind should be re-issued in it's entirety for the world to savor as well as respect and honor.

    In regards of similar sounds, I would have to choose Curtom label's "Leroy Hutson". Hutson's stuff can at times be classified in the same vein as Mr.White in terms of "musical arrangement"..... beautifully placed violins and other exotic strings all over the place, a wah-wah guitar riff here and there and not to mention great drums all show Mr.Hutson in a style that seems to be patterned off of the same lush, fully orchestrated sound that was so elegantly parlayed by Barry White. I have gotten into quite a few arguments over this in recent past. Upon listening to Hutson's "Lover's Holiday" & I Do, I Do" and quite a few others from the Curtom stylist, One can't help but hear the influence. Love to them both.
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    "make it last forever" by Donna Mcghee sounds pretty Barry White-ish to me with cow bell and all :-Pso is the remake by Inner City

    Just recently re-discovered "Desafio" it's taken from the Columbia Album "Delicate & Jumpy" I wanna try to find this.

    "Fania" was a famous NYC predominantly Salsa Music label, but also release other music including Latin Disco, ( LTG Express), the "All Star" ususally refers to recordings that used all (or many) the Label's musicians playing together live or in the Studio. Many great musicians in those days recorded or toured with Fania (some while signed by other label) , some familar names, Mongo Santamaria, Cheo Feliciano, Hector Lavoe, Jan Hammer (Miami Vice) Louie Ramirez ("Salsa"), Late queen of Salsa Celia Cruz, Tito Puente, Johnny Pacheco, Larry Harlow, Willie Colon, and the list goes on and on. in 1973 Manu Dibango toured with Fania all star doing a wicket Soul Makossa.

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    Hey Visuals, I hear the similarity between Hutson and White even though Hutson is not a baritone. They are both indepedant artists who write, arrange, and give their songs a certain signature. Neither are truly funk nor disco and do not use political lyrics in their music. Both artists have ballads neatly crafted with strings and often feature instrumentals on their albums. They both use female backgrounds and augment their arrangements.

    However, one artist that really traveled in Barry White's wake was Johnny Bristol. On tracks like "Hang on in there baby" one could easily hear how Barry was his main influence.

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    Hey Visuals, I hear the similarity between Hutson and White even though Hutson is not a baritone. They are both indepedant artists who write, arrange, and give their songs a certain signature. Neither are truly funk nor disco
    Eddie Eddie Eddie ......I hate to seem like I'm forever coming down on ya friend ...but I simply can't just ignore these untruths being disseminated onto a thread of mine & irresponsibly leave them left uncorrected ...

    besides .... I'm getting a might worried about you :-D:roll: and unless immediate remedial action is taken I'm afriad you'll wind up down some narrow little disco road not unlike the one Quinny travels ....................................:-P

    There was so much variety to disco .....such a wonderfully wide range of sounds that to try to define "A" disco sound is quite reckless if not futile .

    Now Marky does us all a great service by painstakingly producing the actual 100 per cent valid DISCO charts actually created during the days of disco by actual disco djs who spun actual disco music in actual disco clubs . It's the closest thing to a deliverance of truth from the tablets of Moses that we've got ....

    So......... Barry White ! not disco? This has to stop !! Barry White is the godfather of disco ...the earliest mentions of the concept of disco never fail to include him

    And this is where studying the disco charts is of such great value .....
    ......Once the Billboard disco chart was started in late 1974 .... surprise surprise .....look who perched his big ol' self none too soon right at the top :

    COMPILATION CONSENSUS TOP 16
    Chart #3: November 9, 1974

    1) YOU'RE THE FIRST, THE LAST, MY EVERYTHING/ b/w MORE THAN ANYTHING, YOU'RE MY EVERYTHING (Instrumental) - Barry White
    (20th Century 45) (22 total points/ charts ABC) (Last week: #2)

    2) NEVER CAN SAY GOODBYE - Gloria Gaynor
    (MGM 45) (20/ABC) (#1)
    3) GET DANCIN' (PARTS 1 & 2) - Disco Tex & His Sex-O-Lettes
    (Chelsea 45) (20/ABC) (#3)
    4) WHERE ARE ALL MY FRIENDS - Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes
    (Phil. Intl. 45) (16/BC) (#5)
    5) DOCTOR'S ORDERS - Carol Douglas

    He bumped off Gloria Gaynor for crying out loud !!

    That was 1974 ....

    ....and currently Marky's revealing for us .... all that was disco in the middle of 1976 ---
    and before too long here .... guess what ..... Barry White's gonna be back right in the middle of it all again ....and surprise surprise .... guess where he charges his big linebacker bad self all the way back up to on the disco chart ....yet again .....8)8)8)8) .... :-).....

    Those wonderfully revealing & defining disco charts .... they hold for us these truths ... !!

    OK I'm done .......................:roll::razz::-D


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    Re: Songs from the school of the Love Unlimited

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    "make it last forever" by Donna Mcghee sounds pretty Barry White-ish to me with cow bell and all :-Pso is the remake by Inner City

    Just recently re-discovered "Desafio" it's taken from the Columbia Album "Delicate & Jumpy" I wanna try to find this.

    "Fania" was a famous NYC predominantly Salsa Music label, but also release other music including Latin Disco, ( LTG Express), the "All Star" ususally refers to recordings that used all (or many) the Label's musicians playing together live or in the Studio. Many great musicians in those days recorded or toured with Fania (some while signed by other label) , some familar names, Mongo Santamaria, Cheo Feliciano, Hector Lavoe, Jan Hammer (Miami Vice) Louie Ramirez ("Salsa"), Late queen of Salsa Celia Cruz, Tito Puente, Johnny Pacheco, Larry Harlow, Willie Colon, and the list goes on and on. in 1973 Manu Dibango toured with Fania all star doing a wicket Soul Makossa.
    thanks for the info MM ......I will also be on the lookout for this one :D
    Fania All Stars - http://www.discomusic.com/records-more/3245_0_2_0_C/


    Remicks-you must..MUST...check out "Love Song" by
    Simon Said(a 45 on Atco-maybe1975?)a perfect
    Love Unlimited faux morsel-with whispery,dramatic
    spoken parts,lush strings and a gorgeous melody.
    Thom
    I have other Simon Said's but not this one ....more to seek !!!8)8) thanx !!


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    Re: Songs from the school of the Love Unlimited

    Remicks: One that might float your boat and remind you of Barry's Love Unlimited instrumental outings is.......

    Nature Zone - Porcupine

    What's this narrow road I'm travellin' down? I'm flabbergasted that some of you guys (Remicks) use chart action to blast someone's supposed bad taste/non-cred and then use those same charts to back up your own pet likes.

    Barry White wasn't strictly Disco, but he was played in discos and the same applies to Leroy Hutson (with the exception of 'Feel the Spirit of '76' which was pure Disco).

    Sure, I played Barry White, but I didn't ever feel (as a 22-26 year old DJ, already older than my core audience) that his music was anything more than over 40's sex olympics background music. All the letharios of this world loved it. Much of his output consisted of the same tunes re-written/re-scored and musically he never really moved on, once he'd hit upon his magic formula. Your quoted example (first, last, everything) had a rhythm pattern that wasn't anything like the Disco music that was being played at the time and for me, was the beginning of the end for him. It harkened back to soul records of the late '60's (out of date), was too fast (for the time) and was a pop hit primarily. Most of his big hits redefined cheese and syrupy sweet at the same time, but there were a few that were very good tracks. Overweight and overblown in my books.

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    Yes, "desafνo" means "challenge", however it's not a word used in casual conversation often.

    I'm reading this and I can't think of any songs but some time ago I saw this Barry White concert DVD from BITD, it was delighting and kitschy at the same time, you know? I mean, I LOL when I saw Barry's heavy perspiration all over his face... when all he does is walk talking on the microphone! And Glodean's nails! :-o Between the bonus features in the DVD there's a recording session circa 1980 in which her nails are several inches longer still (obviously she never cut them). The fake eyelashes, the wigs, you know... Of course the music is great!

    The best part is a little featurette in which Barry and Glodean show the house they are building for themselves. The couple show a big hole in the ground in which they will put their swimming pool. It's like those houses in Goodfellas, or that Ike and Tina had in the movie What's love got to do with it. Instantaneous Jussi material :icon_mrgreen:
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