TK Records roster of acts for 1975

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These acts were signed to TK records in 1975

KC & The Sunshine Band
Betty Wright
Latimore
Little Beaver
Timmy Thomas
Milton Wright
Jackie Moore
King Floyd
Dorothy Moore
Gwen McCrae
George McCrae
Jimmy "Bo" Horne
Fire
Miami
Wilson Pickett
Terry Collins
Clarence Reid
Hokis Pokis
Blowfly

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And.................???????

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T-Connection?

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I think T Connection would have been the following year. Interesting the Hokis Pokis one. Their single was released on the Shield label, but if you look at the publishing credits, it's Sherlyn, which was a TK related publisher, if I'm not mistaken.

If the Shield label was a subsidiary of TK, were there other tracks put out on that label?

Were the Sunshine Band signed separately from KC & The Sunshine Band? I mean, wouldn't they have had to been a separate entity to have recorded the instrumental LP Sound of Sunshine in '75?

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And.................???????

ah yes ..... and now for the "and" ......

And ... why is it that TK lists on their roster a one King Floyd ..... but yet nothing is then released by him ? No King Floyd TK disco ??

Most odd .... when only four years later TK would have a big hit with a reworking of his famed song GROOVE ME . So true is it , in its essence, to the original version ..... it is hard to dispute when comparing them , that GROOVE ME was one of those pioneering tunes .... unwittingly leading us down the yellow brick path toward discoland ...
Would've been nice to have heard a King Floyd TK remake of his hit .... with thumps added .... maybe he resisted the idea ..... still there might be something amiss in the totality of this story .... King Floyd signed to TK with no product .... but yet the same label releases a new version of his big hit ... only instead uses an unknown artist .... a Miss Fern Kinney to provide its vocals ..... ?
Who knows .....
maybe somewhere there also exists the same remake version ..... containing not Fern Kinney's voice ,
but instead .... that of the song's original composer .... :roll:

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CORRECTION !! :D UPDATE !!

King Floyd disco exists !!! 8)

1976 TK issued single : BODY ENGLISH

a somewhat subdued KC & The Sunshine Band sounding groove ....
would mix effortlessly into SHAKE SHAKE SHAKE

probably inspired by DISCO LADY .... same theme to the lyrics ... same low-key sultry groove .... maybe a bit faster ...


you got the moves that everybody can understand
you do the talkin wich your body and wich your hands
you mooove like you wanna ... and you don't have to say a word
you let your bawdy do the talkin' ... 'cause you know that you'll be heard ...
you got body english .... its the lover's language
music (music) ....don't care.... who listens to it
dance you do ( dance you do) ...don't care ...will try to do it
you put a smile on your lips
and vibrations in your hips ......................


some nice brief James Brown good gawd kinda hollars before the oh so short, but very wonderfully KC break .

extend and REMIX- REMIX -REMIX ...what took TK so long to figure out the hell to extend and remix .... :evil:

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The further point I want to make ....
is that somebody here borrowed from somebody ....

Either KC and The Sunshine Band first came out with SHAKE SHAKE SHAKE and BODY ENGLISH is an attempted copycat ....

OR

this song came out first and this is where KC derived ( stole) his big hit from ...


I'm going with the latter ..... both were released in 1976 but I think
BODY ENGLISH was first & seems to be playing off the 1975 song DISCO LADY .....
It was released thru TK ..... but on Chimneyville which is the original lablel King Floyd was released by Malaco on with no ties to TK .... GROOVE ME was on Chimneyville ... but shipped thru Stax.

Then we look at the composer.... Bobby Merchant .... not Casey and Finch .... which would have been likely with TK in 1976 .... particularly to wind up with this KC sounding record .
But no, the author is from Malaco .... the same group that put together GROOVE ME years prior. BODY ENGLISH was produced in part by Tommy Couch which suggests that the song came from his studio in Jackson Mississippi ... not in Miami.

Very Interesting .

The line:
music (music) , don't care ..who listens to it
can lay right on top of
don't fight the feeling .... give yourself a chance

I like to ask when listening to certain stand out songs ......."Where did these acts/producers get their inspiration for this ?"

In this case I'm suggesting KC ripped off BODY ENGLISH to come up with SHAKE SHAKE SHAKE ......

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I wouldn't be surprised if KC just recycled some chords or arrangements. By that period, he had finalized his KC sound, which isn't really evident on Rock Your Baby by George McCrae, but by 75/76, you can really hear the style. It's just like how Van McCoy had his specific sound.

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Aah! Body English.....a great record that I played and played in sunny Mallorca. I came across my 7" copy on Contempo records just a few weeks back. Can't see such an obvious reference to KC in it myself and certainly nothing to do with Disco Lady (although I can see where you're coming from). It's got just as much to do with Arthur Prysock - When Love Is New, Lou Rawls - You'll Never Find as KC, IMO.

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Aah! Body English.....a great record that I played and played in sunny Mallorca. .

Quinny ... I'd be ever so grateful if you could reach back to those days and try to pin point when in 1976 you were first playing this song ?? :-?

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Aah! Body English.....a great record that I played and played in sunny Mallorca. .

Quinny ... I'd be ever so grateful if you could reach back to those days and try to pin point when in 1976 you were first playing this song ?? :-?

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Remicks: I was working 7 nights a week, burning the candle at both ends with the help of some nasty speed at times, had a bar manager who insisted on giving me quadruple Tequilas when I asked for water or chocolate milk and you want me to pinpoint when I played this record????? :lol: :lol: :lol: Unfortunately I just can't remember anything that precisely, didn't write the date bought onto my discs until a few years later and all my records are packed up in storage, prior to my move abroad. Sorry. Whenever it was released on Contempo, I would have been playing it from then on. Old Blues & Soul mags would have the answer, that's for sure.

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REMICKS id have had body english as 1975 if not for sure it was recorded in 75 as im sure this was from the well done album i also have from 76 trouble/stop look and listen and from 78 i wanna slow dance wit'cha/stop look and listen i think this a side was from the can as later releases was unreleased stuff, im not saying this is complete for the label as i think there was another from 75,sorry QUINNY wasnt the first kid on the block to play body english as contempo didnt exactly rush to the pressing plant as it was released very late 76.
and boy am i SHOCKED at quinnys drug revelation :o :lol:

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apologies im wrong upon checking the actual u.k release date i come across the u.s release its aprox november 74 and heres the review
KING FLOYD -CHIMNEYVILLE 10212 BODY ENGLISH/I REALLY LOVE YOU
king bounds back to favour with this simple but inspired hunk of disco funk that does,in reality capture the K C sound better than their own release ! the non stop rhythm is accentuated by some stirring brass lines and the man sings a top form vocal on the curiously titled ditty. itll keep you on the dancefloor, thats for sure- but it also has soul appeal and that is so often missing from todays disco hits. flip has an almost reggae type flavour to it and is a musical throwback to his old 'groove me' days

blimey quinny really WAS the HOTTEST d.j in the whole of spain, even though his pupils were really dialated :lol:

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apologies im wrong upon checking the actual u.k release date i come across the u.s release its aprox november 74 and heres the review
KING FLOYD -CHIMNEYVILLE 10212 BODY ENGLISH/I REALLY LOVE YOU
king bounds back to favour with this simple but inspired hunk of disco funk that does,in reality capture the K C sound better than their own release ! the non stop rhythm is accentuated by some stirring brass lines and the man sings a top form vocal on the curiously titled ditty. itll keep you on the dancefloor, thats for sure- but it also has soul appeal and that is so often missing from todays disco hits. flip has an almost reggae type flavour to it and is a musical throwback to his old 'groove me' days

blimey quinny really WAS the HOTTEST d.j in the whole of spain, even though his pupils were really dialated :lol:

DD: Sigh, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz :roll: :roll: :roll:

Wait a minute. This revue almost doesn't ring true. KC were barely established by November '74 and didn't really have a trademark sound at that point, did they? Their first few releases were a real hotch-potch of styles. Also note the phrase "today's disco hits", written by an Englishman in 1974.
I guess the Contempo release was in '75 and although not released at the same time as the original (which obviously slipped through the U.S. Disco DJ's net!!), some Contempo releases were hard on the heels of their U.S. counterparts, weren't they?

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apologies im wrong upon checking the actual u.k release date i come across the u.s release its aprox november 74 and heres the review
KING FLOYD -CHIMNEYVILLE 10212 BODY ENGLISH/I REALLY LOVE YOU
king bounds back to favour with this simple but inspired hunk of disco funk that does,in reality capture the K C sound better than their own release ! the non stop rhythm is accentuated by some stirring brass lines and the man sings a top form vocal on the curiously titled ditty. itll keep you on the dancefloor, thats for sure- but it also has soul appeal and that is so often missing from todays disco hits. flip has an almost reggae type flavour to it and is a musical throwback to his old 'groove me' days

blimey quinny really WAS the HOTTEST d.j in the whole of spain, even though his pupils were really dialated :lol:

DD: Sigh, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz :roll: :roll: :roll:

Wait a minute. This revue almost doesn't ring true. KC were barely established by November '74 and didn't really have a trademark sound at that point, did they? Their first few releases were a real hotch-potch of styles. Also note the phrase "today's disco hits", written by an Englishman in 1974.
I guess the Contempo release was in '75 and although not released at the same time as the original (which obviously slipped through the U.S. Disco DJ's net!!), some Contempo releases were hard on the heels of their U.S. counterparts, weren't they?

sorry quinny that was late when i typed that,i typed 74 by mistake what i meant was released us nov 76 and contempo probibly would have been round a month or so later so they were quite on the ball with this

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Thanks for the input !! :D

Who knows* ..... maybe TK, before distributing this song, ran it thru their Miami machine to make it more Sunshine . Maybe KC himself added an organ track and when doing so that's when he heard elements of the track that influenced him ....
Or maybe he had already done SHAKE SHAKE SHAKE .... and the same musicians from that project were brought in to give BODY ENGLISH a lift , bringing with them a degree of SHAKE's essence and applied it to this one ....
Alll I know is that the similarities go beyond the instruments : the chord changes and other elements of the song's structure are suspiciously SHAKE SHAKE SHAKE as well .... and if what you DISKODISC think is correct .... that this is an older Chimneyville record retrieved from the can ... that makes it doubly suspicious since the two were in prerelease/development status at about the same time .

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Aah! Body English.....a great record that I played and played in sunny Mallorca. I came across my 7" copy on Contempo records just a few weeks back. Can't see such an obvious reference to KC in it myself and certainly nothing to do with Disco Lady (although I can see where you're coming from). It's got just as much to do with Arthur Prysock - When Love Is New, Lou Rawls - You'll Never Find as KC, IMO.

Give it another listen Quinny :

DISCODISK : i came across the u.s release its aprox november 76 and heres the review
KING FLOYD -CHIMNEYVILLE 10212 BODY ENGLISH/I REALLY LOVE YOU
king bounds back to favour with this simple but inspired hunk of disco funk that does, in reality capture the K C sound better than their own release !

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