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    Komisky Park...would you have participated?

    For my 3000th post, this might seem like a strange subject for this forum to chew over, but I believe each and every one of us might have been tempted at some point or another, to participate in a Disco record burning orgy.

    I for one, would have been more than happy to burn some of the dross that passed for Disco, especially during the showtune revival period in '75 and '76, but it would have been for the perceived lack of musical integrity and nothing else. Possibly in '79 when the real thing took place, I might have been there too, had I known about it and lived in the vicinity, because by then, in the U.S.A. it must have been hell for anyone who wasn't entirely into schlurping hi-hats and a 4/4 dance beat. Let's face it, Disco was in overkill by late '79 and the U.S. hadn't seen such an intense overselling of a cultural phenomenon over such a long period, before. Geez, if nearly everything I turned to for some sort of cultural stimulation had contained something about Disco, I think I would have gone stir crazy.

    And you......dare to be different?!

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    I was in my teens during that 'frenetic' '76 - '79 disco era....living in a small town just outside a fairly large city in Canada....a big music lover who was in those years of discovering that there was life outside the music box of radio, mainstream and pop charts.

    Yes, disco was fairly well-known but it certainly wasn't well-received by most of my young peers. The adults around me didn't go to discos. Our radio stations didn't play one disco song after another. The guys I attended school with at that time loved their Supertramp, Aerosmith, Foreigner, Kansas and of course their beloved Zeppelin. Others were more into the softer rock of Fleetwood Mac, The Eagles, Bob Seger, Meatloaf and Steve Miller. This was the case for adults as well.

    When I made my one or two visits to the record stores each week into the city, I had to search for anything of a disco nature outside of the Bee Gees and KC. Even my beloved Donna Summer albums (other than Bad Girls) were only to be found in the small disco section usually towards the back of the stores. The clerks at the stores were pretty ignorant and uncaring about my inquiries too.

    I know that it was much different in mega-cities like Chicago, LA, Toronto (although I question just how big it was there) and of course NYC but elsewhere, if it was anything like the environment that I grew up in, disco was not the music norm of choice. So other than big cities on the coasts and borders, my guess is disco was not this huge phenomenon in North America that Steve Dahl and the like had distorted in their minds....it was not in every home, not in everyone's frame of mind, not taking over everyone's state of being!

    I remember reading about that ridiculous Comiskey Park event. At age 18, I remember being incredibly confused that a music, who's prime reason for existing was to make people dance and smile, could create such hostility in the hearts and minds of a huge body of people.

    It would be years and years later before I started to become aware of the damaging and harmful repercussions caused by the insecure soul.

    So in answer to the question, no, I wouldn't have had one fleeting thought of participating in such inane immaturity.

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    Well, I know for sure Quinny that you would've lit the first match ya little turn-coat. 8)
    Obviously, no I would not have. In fact I would have probably found some rock records and start my own fire next to that one :evil:

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    Quote Originally Written by paul
    Obviously, no I would not have. In fact I would have probably found some rock records and start my own fire next to that one :evil:
    Yeah :evil: Rock sucks :evil: Fire! Fire!

    I knew the event happened, it was in our newspapers BITD. I never understood the meaning of it and it only reminded me of the guys in school that wore filthy clothes, drank too much beer and smelled awfully while showing off their Rockjunk :lol:

    Disco was my thing, Disco is my thing and Disco will forever be my thing!

    Q, BTW I'm pretty sure that you would burn Discorecords but first you would carefully think about which Discorecords, mmmmh.

    I can guess which ones you would burn :o

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    Toronto (although I question just how big it was there)
    Let me assure you that it was big in Toronto. Some of the downtown rock bars were converting to the format as they were losing out on the action and there were a number of record stores catering to the DJ.Dance contests,hustle lessons were happening all over the core and CITY -TV hosted it's own disco show "Boogie" beginning in the mid seventies and running through the eighties.
    When the club I was at "Koutoubia" brought in the disco acts of the day Gloria Gaynor,Disco-Tex and The Sex-O-Lettes,Crown Heights Affair, Bimbo Jet,Strativarious etc. the 400 seat club was packed. Disco was a vibrant, intricate part of Toronto nitelife in the seventies. Clubs such as the Mad Mechanic,Mingles,Scorpio,Boiler Room,Thank Goodness It's Friday,The Generator,Le Tube,Attila's Cave,Nepentha,Fingers,The Key Club,Dinkelman's,Maxwell's Plum were just a few of the hot disco spots.

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    not a chance

    This is a rather thought provoking thread.

    While, i totally agree with Quinny's point about over-commercialization of Disco, the cheesiness and lameness of the late 79's play lists, my answer is still No. No, I would not go there and most certainly I would not burn records or books. Even those records that I don't like.

    best regards to all here from a frequent reader but an infrequent poster

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    No!!!!!!!!!!

    I watched it on a TeeVee news report and I was appalled!
    What assholes I thought! Protect me from the mob! I don't know these people...

    I went on with life, worked, bought a house, raised a family and pretty much forgot about Disco except when I heard the occasional song or my bride and I went out to a bar or occasional club (very very occasional). Then I got on www.discomusic.com and the memories! :D

    Thanks Bernie. :D

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    I think possibly protesting in such a manner could hurt your agenda. It's only music!!
    However, at this point in 1979, if a was a Black radio programmer I'd be slamming the brakes by now especially if in a city with more than one Black radio station.

    1)I would play snippets of groups like the Village People and Donna Summer and say "not at this station".
    2)Lift the Northern soul embargo and play some Tyrone Davis and more than one Johnnie Taylor record.
    3)Add another hour of Quiet Storm.
    4)Expand to jazz instrumentals and gospel at least once an hour for each.
    5)Support the old school artists who have been around by playing 60's and their current hits.

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    Hell no!

    That whole thing seemed so immature and barbaric in the first place; I don't think I would have participated, even if I was pissed off about disco..

    Even though some of my favourite disco comes from 1979, I'd still agree that perhaps the disco phenomenon was getting a bit excessive by then. Still, as eddie alluded to, there are better ways of protesting, without having to disrespect other people's music.

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    The whole thing reminded me of the Nazis and their Krystal Nacht. That may seem an extreme thing to say/type...but, how can you get together hundreds of people in a park, just to burn records made by (on the whole) minorities and gays? Did any Disco fans burn Rock records BITD? Wasn't this event organised by some Radio jock? I can't recall his name...fortunately.

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    Quote Originally Written by originalbigm
    Toronto (although I question just how big it was there)
    Let me assure you that it was big in Toronto.

    Disco was a vibrant, intricate part of Toronto nitelife in the seventies. Clubs such as the Mad Mechanic,Mingles,Scorpio,Boiler Room,Thank Goodness It's Friday,The Generator,Le Tube,Attila's Cave,Nepentha,Fingers,The Key Club,Dinkelman's,Maxwell's Plum were just a few of the hot disco spots.
    Thanks for this info! I have searched thru the club listings on this site but didn't come across any Toronto hotspots. I'm not familiar with any of the names of the popular TO discos in the late 70s other than the gay ones.

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    Quote Originally Written by buckaroo
    The whole thing reminded me of the Nazis and their Krystal Nacht. That may seem an extreme thing to say/type...but, how can you get together hundreds of people in a park, just to burn records made by (on the whole) minorities and gays? Did any Disco fans burn Rock records BITD? Wasn't this event organised by some Radio jock? I can't recall his name...fortunately.
    Steve Dahl was the radio DJ who was responsible for the whole thing. He was a morning radio DJ in Chicago who pushed the 'Disco Sucks' thing for awhile during his time on the radio with the help of t-shirts and bumper stickers.

    Then he announced to his fellow disco-sucks-fans that he was working on a surprise that would happen between baseball games at Comiskey Park. He started a boisterous anti-disco rally around a huge pile of disco records mixed with TNT with thousands chanting 'disco sucks disco sucks' while he set the thing ablaze creating a huge blast. A riot emerged and the second game was cancelled.

    To see just how ridiculously powerful this event was, take a look at this and try not to get upset.....

    http://promomagazine.com/news/disco_died/index.html

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    OMG, the guy looks like a character from one of the "Revenge of the nerds"-series :o



    Steve, up yours and here's the rest of your crew! Get a life pal!


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    Quote Originally Written by buckaroo
    The whole thing reminded me of the Nazis and their Krystal Nacht. That may seem an extreme thing to say/type...but, how can you get together hundreds of people in a park, just to burn records made by (on the whole) minorities and gays?
    Your comparison is extremely out out of line! Getting people together to trash disco records is pretty far removed form getting people together to terrorize German Jews and destroy their property.

    You guys are taking the events at Comiskey way too seriously. I was more of a rock fan than a disco fan, but had both in my 70s vinyl collection. Believe me, rock fans didn't sit around all day talking about how they hated disco. It was an event that just got out of control at at time when disco music was burning out. All hot new music meets the same fate sooner or later. Punk had a short life too.

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    Hey Quinny,

    Nice provocative question.... :-)

    Maybe we can all get together and burn Trance records or smash
    rap video's that teach my children waaay too young waaay
    too much about ho's and pimps :-)

    As wrong as steve dahl was with his disco-sucks rally, it was not only
    his thing because without followers no one would remember Kaminsky
    nowadays, what i'm pointing at is that if steve dahl had wanted to
    burn Aerosmith records he also would have found a bored mob
    who were into mayhem and disorder.

    As for my participation, if i have to listen to the Bee Bees and Village
    People two days in a row i might consider torching the stuff also.....
    and let's not forget how Boney M and Abba could really help to
    "Light up the night" or "Light my Fire" :-) lol
    But there is NO justification whatsoever imho for the way stuff went
    on there back in 1979, discrimination is always useless and bad.
    If steve hadn't been around disco would have evolved into
    something else just the way it did anyway likeany industry will that
    doesn't make much profit bacause the market is saturated with
    mass produced crap once the sharks kick in to make a bundle out
    of any hype.

    Short answer : NO, i love a good fire but not from books or music.


    Keep the fire burning !, Peter aka DJ-Pir

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    Some of my favorite disco music comes from 1979. I think this event, which was nothing more than a publicity stunt, was geared towards some of the sentiment of that time - and it was easy for non-disco fans to feed into it. But, as sick as I may have been with some of the music of the day, there is no way you would have seen me at Comsikey Park that day.

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    What is perhaps the most shocking irony out of the whole Comiskey Park incident is that Chicago was where house originated (years after that event took place). Could this have been a blessing in disguise?

    Perhaps Chicago would be a fitting locale for such an event to take place in. Was disco as popular in Chicago as it was in New York, San Francisco, Miami, Los Angeles, Boston, or other coastal cities? I couldn't see a disco record-burning promotion happening in Yankee Stadium. Or Candlestick Park in San Francisco. Could you?

    From listening to old airchecks of radio stations from Chicago during the 1970's, the playlists were quite different than that in New York. Whereas New York was a healthy dose of pop and soul, Chicago leaned towards more obscure, non-Top40, rock music and occasionally playing disco and soul, though not much.

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    I couldn't see a disco record-burning promotion happening in Yankee Stadium. Or Candlestick Park in San Francisco. Could you?
    Good point. No way would NYC have been host to such a backlash type event back then. I can't speak for the West Coast, but the NYC tri-state area was still going strong with disco in 1979. You could sense the end was coming, but never figured that disco would completely go away...

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    Quote Originally Written by Videoskooter
    OMG, the guy looks like a character from one of the "Revenge of the nerds"-series :o



    Steve, up yours and here's the rest of your crew! Get a life pal!

    Johan, that is exactly my point with these guys. Look at 'em. Gettin' laid was something they had to know wasn't gonna happen anywhere especially in a disco

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    No, I wouldn't.
    I don't think many of the DISCO lovers here in The Netherlands were aware of this DISCO demolition night though....
    DISCO went on in Europe until about 1985, and then slowly faded away...!
    (altough it NEVER faded away in my mind... and NEVER will!!)

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    Re: Komisky Park...would you have participated?

    Dahl and others like him are clowns...they are false entertainers who, once their make-up has been removed, reveal themselves as scared, sad, and lonely individuals who lead empty lives! No! I would never have participated in such a fiasco. Chicagoans should be ashamed of themselves for allowing such a thing to occur. Thankfully, I was in Colorado when this attrocity occurred. But remember the following:

    DISCO NEVER DIES!!!

    The pioneers and icons of Disco music are more known and will forever be immortalized in the hearts and minds of music listeners long after Dahl has vanished.

    Legendary Disco artists are known throughout the world...wherein they provided us with tunes to dance and skate to. Dahl is hardly known outside of Chicago. Some will recall the incident at Comiskey Park. However, even Chicagoans who were present can't recall the name of the event orchestrator.

    DISCO NEVER DIES!!!

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    Re: Komisky Park...would you have participated?

    Hello all you rather helpfull people, this article came up for me and was of particular interest to me, because at the moment I am doing a study of the "death" of disco for a music research topic. In fact, I choose teh topic without prior knowlesge of Disco demolition day, and it came as a nice surprise =]
    For quoting purposes and to fully make use of material here, I would much appreciate anyones first name and initial if possible (I don't think my teacher will appreciate "piece by Mixmachine" as a scource XD ), and surely anything extra you want to add will gladly received.

    Email: Shannomo@hotmail.com (An MSN interview type thing can be arranged also)

    As for the question posed, I (hypothetically speaking) would have probably disliked the total dominance of the genre (I embrace all genres of music, though dislike rap, hip-hop, R'n'B, etc, too superficial and flat) BUT destroying music is my personal version of sacrilege and would have equally offended, so no, I wouldn't have =Þ

    Thanks for your information and the excellent scource!

    Shanomo the First
    (Listening to) Earth,Wind and Fire - Shining Star

    P.S. I was actually hoping for something less disco to come up when I finished message, no such luck! But Nickelback's Rockstar was playing beforehand.

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    Re: Komisky Park...would you have participated?

    Quinny posting this thread and saying that he could see himself taking part as disco got too big, proves that Quinny is like another user said "a turncoat", or as another user said about Steve Dahl, though equally applicable to Quinny, 'a sad, scared, lonely loser' or whatever.
    The second post by discokicks, said it best:

    "I remember reading about that ridiculous Comiskey Park event. At age 18, I remember being incredibly confused that a music, who's prime reason for existing was to make people dance and smile, could create such hostility in the hearts and minds of a huge body of people.

    It would be years and years later before I started to become aware of the damaging and harmful repercussions caused by the insecure soul.

    So in answer to the question, no, I wouldn't have had one fleeting thought of participating in such inane immaturity. "


    I believe that discokicks really put it well. I would say that disco is more of the music of the man who likes to sleep with as many women as possible. A lot of rock is asexual, though there are plenty that are, like one of my fav classic rock bands, Led Zeppelin, whom I love for their tuneful, melodious songs, not their rambunxious ones with no tune, sexual in a lot of their music and lyrics. I am a 70's lover who loves a wide variety of music from that decade-disco, pop, rock, folk, funk, soul, classical, etc.
    The big thing is, does it sound good? Seems like today, it's about whether the band who does it is, 'is an in type of group of people', or someother irrelevant factor. Not to say there's no good music today, there is here and there.
    Anyways, I think it's too bad people like Steve feel the need to take out their insecurities on the public, or in view of the public. As a vinyl record collector, the very thought of vinyl being destoryed, whether it's music I like or not, totally digusts and saddens me.

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    Re: Komisky Park...would you have participated?

    Ooo, someone dug up an oldie. I'll throw in my 2 cents.

    I'm ashamed to say that, at the time, yes, I likely would have attended given the chance. In the summer of 1979, I was a racist, homophobic, long-haired, 13 year old suburban white boy who, as a radio listener, was as sick of disco as anyone - despite the fact that I seem to remember still liking a few disco songs at the time, such as "Bad Girls". I was not a club-goer at the time (and wouldn't be until 1988), and I had NO idea of any of the history of disco beyond "The Hustle" and "Jive Talking" being huge hits in 1975. I was just sick of hearing it constantly on the radio, was getting more into rock like Led Zeppelin and The Cars and Pink Floyd (which is what my racist, homophobic, long-haired, suburban white boy friends were also listening to), and was a "disco sucks" spouter like so many others.

    Only a few years later, in high school, I started collecting old '70s pop songs, and the disco songs were some of the ones I REALLY started getting back into. They were fun, nostalgic, NEVER heard on the radio, and dang it, a song with a great beat is hard to top.:icon_mrgreen:

    So, my retroactive appologies for being of a like mind with all those narrow-minded neanderthals who were at Comisky. I'm a much more enlightened person now than I was as a kid, and I wouldn't hang out with that crowd these days. The disco crowd is WAY more fun.

    Brian

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    Re: Comiskey Park...would you have participated?


     

     

    I don't usually pick up on old threads, but...
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    Whereas New York was a healthy dose of pop and soul, Chicago leaned towards more obscure, non-Top40, rock music and occasionally playing disco and soul, though not much.
    Bull. Take a look at the top 10 of WLS, the major Top-40 station, for this week in 1979, and you find "Le Freak" at #1, "YMCA" at #2, "September" at #5, "I Love the Night Life" at #8, and "Macho Man" at #10. Dig deeper into their chart and you find "MacArthur Park" at #12, "Got to Be Real" at #16, "Get Off" at #18, "Get Down" at #19, "Da Ya Think I'm Sexy" at #25, "I'm Every Woman" at #27, "I Don't Know if it's Right" at #28, "I Will Survive" at #34, "Aqua Boogie"(!) at #40 and "Boogie Oogie Oogie" dropping off at #42. Granted, there's a lot of crossover in there, but I don't see how you can call that "occasional" disco or soul.

    And WGCI-FM, which was one of the first disco stations in the country, not only played the disco hits (usually in the 12" versions) but would also play lesser-heard 12"s and LP tracks -- Ashford & Simpson's "Bourgie Bourgie" and the full 10-minute 12" of Stratavarious' sublime "Let Me Be Your Lady Tonight" both come to mind.

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