Hey disco die hards, give me your thoughts on this....

[AnthonyA1971]

As I said in my intro, I'm a freestyle die hard. However, disco really paved the way for a few other genre's to become what they are/were, including freestyle (as in freestyle dance/hearthrob, NOT rap). My question to you is this:

Did disco die or just evolve? Perhaps you believe, as I do, that it evolved and in that process, died in the sense that what it once was in the late 70's, disappeared.

What are your thoughts?

[Bernie]

On 2002-07-31 18:39, AnthonyA1971 wrote:
Perhaps you believe, as I do, that it evolved and in that process, died in the sense that what it once was in the late 70's, disappeared.

What are your thoughts?

Bingo!

[paul]

I'm more inclined to say transformed as opposed to evolved.

[AnthonyA1971]

LOL...Bernie, I hit it right on the head with that answer? Cool!

Paul, I think "transformed" may be a better concept to use as well.

[Bernie]

On 2002-07-31 19:19, paul wrote:
I'm more inclined to say transformed as opposed to evolved.

Paul,

Transformed seems to imply that something changed rather quickly. Even though the musical direction came as a shock to many (including myself) during the 80s, with the benefit of hindsight it really was that things were evolving gradually. Almost like simmering soup and then eventually you realize that the damn thing is boiling hot! Either way I'm probably splitting hairs so I'll stop for now

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[paul]

On 2002-07-31 19:35, Bernie wrote:

On 2002-07-31 19:19, paul wrote:
I'm more inclined to say transformed as opposed to evolved.

Paul,

Transformed seems to imply that something changed rather quickly. Even though the musical direction came as a shock to many (including myself) during the 80s, with the benefit of hindsight it really was that things were evolving gradually. Almost like simmering soup and then eventually you realize that the damn thing is boiling hot! Either way I'm probably splitting hairs so I'll stop for now

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Defender of the Disco beat,

Bernard Lopez

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owner & publisher of http://www.discomusic.com
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Well, like yourself I'm probably splitting hairs too. The reason I didn't go with evolve is it implied to me an improvement. Perhaps I'm being too anal here but it does make for interesting debate.

[markydefad]

Disco/Dance definitely CHANGED --BUT DID NOT IMPROVE in my opinion. It de-evolved to a beat--just a beat. House music all night long = same BEAT all night long.

Lyrics are intrusive. Melody confuses.

Just a beat and some synth programming.


AND MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF DRUGS SO IT SEEMS KEWL. :roll:

Grandpa has Spoken.

[BrunoRepublic]

The beat goes on, but the warmth and magic died in 1980. Without that, the beat is just... the beat.


Thump-Tiss-Thump-Tiss-Thump-Tiss-Thump-Tiss-Thump-Tiss-Thump-Tiss-Thump-Tiss-Thump-Tiss....

[disco1999]

From my point of view, when New wave music really got moving in late 1980, this confirmed disco was dead (at least the name). Dance music was the logical follow up, and never I personally found further music to be as good. The magic was gone.

[maarten]

I think I need to load a selection of more recent 'dance' tracks into MyLocker to convince you that disco is neither dead or de-volved (love that one!).

But... evolved, yes. Evolved to me means changed with the times. Electronics have changed our lives, as well as our music.

And hey Graham - listen to Nightlife Unlimited, Donna Summer with Moroder, Voyage, Cerrone, The Ritchie Family (Put your feet to the beat) or some of the other loved ones and you'll hear thump-thump-thump-thump too. The tiss is there many times as well. Biggest difference IMHO: it was an actual guy thump-tissing his way through the track.

In the end... taste is a personal thing. And labeling... don't get me started!

[AnthonyA1971]

It's funny how views are so simliar, no matter what the genre of music. For the most part, nobody seems to be happy with the "new" style that their genre has evloved/transformed into!

Also, there is often the debate as to wether or not the music died or evolved/transformed. Thus, the meaning behind this thread.

Deep down inside, we all just miss the music that brings to us those special memories. Again, doesn't matter what the genre is. Or, for that matter, the generation....

[maarten]

I agree!

[DeepBeat]

Disco is alive and kicking.

[Blaxman]

On 2002-07-31 21:43, maarten wrote:

And hey Graham - listen to Nightlife Unlimited, Donna Summer with Moroder, Voyage, Cerrone, The Ritchie Family (Put your feet to the beat) or some of the other loved ones and you'll hear thump-thump-thump-thump too. The tiss is there many times as well. Biggest difference IMHO: it was an actual guy thump-tissing his way through the track.

Maarten,

Yes, those song that you mentioned has the "thump-thump", but not ONLY the "thump-thump"!!
There are many more than "thumps" in the Nightlife Unlimited, Donna Summer with Moroder, Voyage, Cerrone, The Ritchie Family songs. They had multilayered arrangements, nice harmonies, nice vocals, etc...
Something hard-to-find today. IMHO

Peace