Cindy & Roy On Casablanca

[Bernie]

Thank you for taking time to provide some background information on the group. You can find more Cindy and Roy records at this listing: Search Results in Disco Records for Disco Music.com so feel free to add any pertinent comments there as well.

Sorry for sounding " heavy handed " on my remarks regarding the term " lily white " I knew that it would be a challenging statement. Yes you are correct on the other artists that you had mentioned to have great success on the black charts. I remember hearing Fame by D. Bowie or even Wild Cherries big hit on the black charts and thinking that it was a milestone. I think it was around 1973 or 74?? But I was just quoting a theory that I overheard within our mgt. team. Now if you look on the back of the cover. You will see how beautiful Cindy really is! She is probably 6'1" in heels and very statuesque when on stage. The name Cindy and Roy may have been an issue as well for not producing much record sales. Remember Donnie and Marie?? Too cutsie I guess. The band used to be called Cindy and the Censations and then later The New Censations. We were called " Cindy and Roy and The New Censations Band " Originally we had 4 front vocalists 2 black males and Cindy and Roy. Clay Hunt ( he had a solo album produced by Freddie Perrin from the Peaches and Herb fame ) Tony Tillman ( he had his own Vegas act for many years and played Sammy Davis Jr. in " The Rat Pack " in vegas ) Roy Wallman ( he was originally the bass player ) Cindy Wallman ( Uhlhorn ) on vocals. There are two great press articles regarding them from Billboard, March 8th, 1975 entitled Talent in Action, and The Washington Post Aug.15th 1973 entitled Musical Substance. We were from the D.C. Baltimore area. Wew!!! I guess I said it all! Peace and Love , Rich

[Disco Funk]

I didn't realize they were members of New Censation! That's pretty cool. That LP they did in 1974 was released on Pride and was produced by Van McCoy. It featured the first versions of many tracks that would later be remade by McCoys other artists: First Round Knockout and I've Got Nothing But Time by David Ruffin; Come Down To Earth and Everybody's Got A Story by Choice Four. They were with him before he finalized his trademark sound, so their grooves are more straight up funk soul rather than latin soul.





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[PierreConstantin]

I've just checked the charts and saw that Cindy and Roy were disco #55 in August 1979 with the two best songs of the album, both issued as 12"s in re-edited versions: "Can you feel it" and "I wanna testify" (my favourite). It's not very high while the lp is excellent, full of joie de vivre. These songs (and the album as a whole) are good uplifting disco music heavily orchestrated (50 musicians or vocalists collaborated) with every expected ingredients of the genre. It's like Dante's Inferno's album or Maxine Nightingale's "Hideaway", excellent pieces of disco music unfortunately unknown, and not forgettable obscure oddities. IMO every disco music lover would love it :icon_biggrin:.

[PierreConstantin]

Now if you look on the back of the cover. You will see how beautiful Cindy really is! She is probably 6'1" in heels and very statuesque when on stage.

[SandraDee]

'Changin' Jobs' is my favourite track.

[remicks]

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thank-you for sharing from the inside Richard Cissel .:icon_cool::icon_biggrin: Nice to know these two were nice and good people to work with and had musical conviction. I'll approach this album with a different perspective now. :icon_cool:

I've just checked the charts and saw that Cindy and Roy were disco #55 in August 1979 with the two best songs of the album, both issued as 12"s in re-edited versions: "Can you feel it" and "I wanna testify" (my favourite). It's not very high while the lp is excellent, full of joie de vivre. These songs (and the album as a whole) are good uplifting disco music heavily orchestrated (50 musicians or vocalists collaborated) with every expected ingredients of the genre. It's like Dante's Inferno's album or Maxine Nightingale's "Hideaway", excellent pieces of disco music unfortunately unknown, and not forgettable obscure oddities. IMO every disco music lover would love it :icon_biggrin:.

Pierre, your enthusiasm for this release has me certain you'll find the following of special interest:










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[PierreConstantin]

Pierre, your enthusiasm for this release has me certain you'll find the following of special interest:

I just own the album (excellent, yes :icon_biggrin:) and not the 12"s. I just know that the 12" versions have inferior timings compared to the lp versions. But I don't know if they are good.

[remicks]

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I just own the album (excellent, yes :icon_biggrin:) and not the 12"s. I just know that the 12" versions have inferior timings compared to the lp versions. But I don't know if they are good.

How can a SPECIAL "PARTY RE-MIX" not be good !!!!

I bought it!! (couldn't resist )... so I'll let you know !!!! :icon_biggrin:



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[kdavid13]

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How can a SPECIAL "PARTY RE-MIX" not be good !!!!

I bought it!! (couldn't resist )... so I'll let you know !!!! :icon_biggrin:



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Just saw it this week in the 99cents bin - so now I have to go back and grab it...One never has enough 70's Casablanca stuff !!

Funny this weekend I bought a Leon Haywood Lp just because it was on Casablanca - but I was turned off by the fact that it was a 1983 release !

Cuz we all know 80's Casa was not the same...I loved The medecine songs,Pilor error,the Flashdance sdtck 12" and a few other tracks but by then it was just another Polygram imprint...

[remicks]

Just saw it this week in the 99cents bin - so now I have to go back and grab it...One never has enough 70's Casablanca stuff !!

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Well, of course you have to grab it at that price !!:icon_biggrin::icon_razz: ...It's the party remix version right ....

And do me a favor- give it a good listen and tell me how brilliant I was to buy it for 6.99+ shipping


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[Disco Funk]

All of the cuts on the LP are great. I bought the remix 12inch a couple of years after putting the LP onto CDR, so I didn't listen to it and compare it to the LP mix. But I did notice it seemed to have a longer intro that's broken down sparse instrumentation. It definitely seemed to be more DJ friendly.

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[remicks]

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How can a SPECIAL "PARTY RE-MIX" not be good !!!!

I bought it!! (couldn't resist )... so I'll let you know !!!! :icon_biggrin:



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Got it !! :icon_mrgreen::icon_mrgreen::icon_mrgreen:


And oh my god ......this new remix ..as soon as you put it on ..there is so much promise .....

thump thump thump .....piano chords , .....whirling strings ...piano chords and whirling strings ....


sort of FORBIDDEN LOVE ish

and then :icon_confused: ...

comes in some high voices singing " you -make- me--- feel good " ...and from there it digresses into various reorganized parts of the original version .

the stylized piano playing developed for the intro never comes back again !!!

A good attempt of a rescue mission because this song does have many desirable ingredients of a good disco record yet instead of their being mixed together into something gourmet .... it remains more of a goulash that even this additional remix can't sort out.

As for it being a "party remix" ......not sure how this mix becomes that exactly ... wouldn't you expect maybe some whistle blowing , some party chatter ... some extra hoopla ...hand claps ...etc....of which none was added ....


nice attempt , but in the end ..... for me , disappointing .....:icon_sad:


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[PierreConstantin]

Just the pic of a 12" (from MUSIC BLOG OF SALTYKA AND HIS FRIENDS, a site where we can see some recents pics and infos of Cindy and Roy, besides other things).