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    Cindy & Roy On Casablanca

    Does anyone know who Cindy and Roy (Casablanca LP/12" singles) actually were? Or did they exist at all - studio session singers (?). Thanks everyone.

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    I think there's a picture of them on the cover. I seem to recall them being your typical, white couple. Perhaps they were Casablanca's answer to the Raes? :)

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    I had never heard of them until I saw this post, but I'm always after disco rarities. I'm curious about their album now..

    I did a google search and found a posting by the actual Cindy on an MLM message board where she talks about her time in the music industry..

    www.mlmforums.com/forums/showthread.php%3Ft%3D15356+%22cindy+and+roy%22+cas ablanca&hl=en&gl=ca&ct=clnk&cd=9]Cindy speaks[/url] (@ the bottom of the page)

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    The album is pretty bland, if I recall correctly. Definitely not memorable.

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    That was my take on it too. Very much a formulated affair... the disco equivalent of corporate rock.

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    heres the hot disco couple


    shes like englands petula clark and hes like..... hmmm not sure but im sure i saw him in a porno once

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    They almost look like mother and son. :)

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    hmm.. I have to say, Cindy is (was?) one lucky woman! :)

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    Quote Originally Written by neonlights
    I did a google search and found a posting by the actual Cindy on an MLM message board where she talks about her time in the music industry..

    www.mlmforums.com/forums/showthread.php%3Ft%3D15356+%22cindy+and+roy%22+cas ablanca&hl=en&gl=ca&ct=clnk&cd=9]Cindy speaks[/url] (@ the bottom of the page)
    I love Cindy & Roy!!! Thank you for posting this. Glad to hear they are alive & well and still together.

    3 chart hits off their excellent album but no follow-up???

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    Just saw them skating at the winter olympics . Nice routine to SHAKE YOUR GROOVE THING .... too bad she had that awful fall ...... right when the song goes ......
    ........."show 'em how to do it nowww" ..... too .......

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    Quote Originally Written by Discovery

    3 chart hits off their excellent album but no follow-up???
    Did they really have 3 chart hits, or was it Casablanca manipulating sales figures (which they were often guilty of)?

    Anyway, by the end of 1980 *nobody* was releasing disco records. It was more uncool than hair metal in the grunge era.

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    Quote Originally Written by Graham_Start
    Quote Originally Written by Discovery

    3 chart hits off their excellent album but no follow-up???
    Did they really have 3 chart hits, or was it Casablanca manipulating sales figures (which they were often guilty of)?

    Anyway, by the end of 1980 *nobody* was releasing disco records. It was more uncool than hair metal in the grunge era.
    Yes, 2 disco and 1 R&B all in 1979: Can You Feel It, I Wanna Testify, and While We Still Have Time.

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    Cindy&Roy on cassablanca

    I have the seven incher version of Can you feel it but not on
    the cassablanca label
    Still worth a listening!

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    I was the live drummer for Cindy and Roy in 1979 - 1980. My name is Rich Cissel and I have some great live recordings of us playing live in Annapolis Md. The album " Can you Feel it " was recorded in Philly by session players. The song " While we still have time " went to number 29 or 39 on the Billboards black hits listing. The album was in the 50s when it entered the charts. It was rumored that bad timing for our signing to Casablanca ( new wave was just starting ) and having a picture of Cindy and Roy on the album cover was not a smart move. They were a beautiful couple with blonde hair and blue eyes with very soulful voices. We recorded some demos for our follow up album called " Back to Nature " but it never got released due to the passing of Neil Bogart and the changes made within the label.
    We were managed by Primetime productions in Silver Spring Md. they also managed Van Mcoy and Peaches and Herb. Cindy and Roy were the greatest people that I ever worked with PERIOD !!!! Never an argument or a disagreement. They went on " The Merv Griffen Show " to promote their release of " Can you feel it " Does anybody have acces to it??? I hope that I answered your questions. I have more info. if need be. Peace, Rich Cissel

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    Quote Originally Written by richardc View Post
    I was the live drummer for Cindy and Roy in 1979 - 1980. My name is Rich Cissel and I have some great live recordings of us playing live in Annapolis Md. The album " Can you Feel it " was recorded in Philly by session players. The song " While we still have time " went to number 29 or 39 on the Billboards black hits listing. The album was in the 50s when it entered the charts. It was rumored that bad timing for our signing to Casablanca ( new wave was just starting ) and having a picture of Cindy and Roy on the album cover was not a smart move. They were a beautiful couple with blonde hair and blue eyes with very soulful voices. We recorded some demos for our follow up album called " Back to Nature " but it never got released due to the passing of Neil Bogart and the changes made within the label.
    We were managed by Primetime productions in Silver Spring Md. they also managed Van Mcoy and Peaches and Herb. Cindy and Roy were the greatest people that I ever worked with PERIOD !!!! Never an argument or a disagreement. They went on " The Merv Griffen Show " to promote their release of " Can you feel it " Does anybody have acces to it??? I hope that I answered your questions. I have more info. if need be. Peace, Rich Cissel
    Hey Rich - thanks for the details.I for one - always enjoyed the Cindy & Roy album and I have included the tracks on my expanded version of "The Casablanca Story" on the iPod.

    My favorite tracks off the album were : the great & funky I wanna testify and the ever so festive Gotta love somebody else.

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    Quote Originally Written by richardc View Post
    I was the live drummer for Cindy and Roy in 1979 - 1980. My name is Rich Cissel and I have some great live recordings of us playing live in Annapolis Md. The album " Can you Feel it " was recorded in Philly by session players. The song " While we still have time " went to number 29 or 39 on the Billboards black hits listing. The album was in the 50s when it entered the charts. It was rumored that bad timing for our signing to Casablanca ( new wave was just starting ) and having a picture of Cindy and Roy on the album cover was not a smart move. They were a beautiful couple with blonde hair and blue eyes with very soulful voices. We recorded some demos for our follow up album called " Back to Nature " but it never got released due to the passing of Neil Bogart and the changes made within the label.
    We were managed by Primetime productions in Silver Spring Md. they also managed Van Mcoy and Peaches and Herb. Cindy and Roy were the greatest people that I ever worked with PERIOD !!!! Never an argument or a disagreement. They went on " The Merv Griffen Show " to promote their release of " Can you feel it " Does anybody have acces to it??? I hope that I answered your questions. I have more info. if need be. Peace, Rich Cissel
    Thanks for your insight into Cindy & Roy, Mr Cissel. Sorry I can't help you on the Merv Griffen Show performance. Maybe it'll turn up on Youtube eventually?

    I definitely recall the liner notes indicating their LP was a Philly production. I can't remember specifically who the musicians were, but I think they were probably the same guys Tom Moulton used on his Loose Change LP and some of the Grace Jones LPs he recorded in Sigma Sound.

    As for not having them on the cover, yeah that might have made the album seem campy rather than the nice disco grooves one finds within. Oh well, we'll never know if they would have broken bigger with a different album cover. One thing is for sure, their music has stood the test of time and is a prime example of good disco music that was still being made in the late 70s, despite the abundance of really bad disco.

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    Quote Originally Written by richardc View Post
    having a picture of Cindy and Roy on the album cover was not a smart move.
    This picture? Why?? They are awesome! :icon_smile:


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    Quote Originally Written by PierreConstantin View Post
    This picture? Why?? They are awesome! :icon_smile:

    I totally agree...:icon_cool:
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    The reason for their picture on the cover was a possible challenge to selling the records has to do with " black sounding artists " that were white, selling records on a black hits list. It was to lily white looking at the time. This is just a theory as it was 1979 as well. Not a cool thing to have whites do well on the black charts. Although the live band was interracial. We were very well appreciated by all races when performing live. Peace & Love, Rich

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    Quote Originally Written by richardc View Post
    The reason for their picture on the cover was a possible challenge to selling the records has to do with " black sounding artists " that were white, selling records on a black hits list. It was to lily white looking at the time.

    I remember on Madonna's early singles like Holiday, she wasn't on the sleeve 'cos her music was seen as club-orientated & Sire marketed her initially at black clubs to try to break her apparently, & they thought a white act might put them off.:icon_confused: (despite white acts such as Teena Marie & Bob James having huge black fan bases). The record industry (certainly the marketing side anyway) can seem so racist at times.
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    Cindy And Roy ....
    part of the problem I think is that their name sounds something more like the newlywed couple that just moved in next door ....

    I'm rather fond of the twelve inch of CAN YOU FEEL IT ....
    Interesting title as it is asking a question I don't think the disc answers ....its sort of hard to tell what the feeling is from this tune ... happy ..... sad ...??

    The vibe of it is :icon_confused: ... I'd say somewhat "ominous" .....

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    Quote Originally Written by richardc View Post
    The reason for their picture on the cover was a possible challenge to selling the records has to do with " black sounding artists " that were white, selling records on a black hits list. It was to lily white looking at the time. This is just a theory as it was 1979 as well. Not a cool thing to have whites do well on the black charts. Although the live band was interracial. We were very well appreciated by all races when performing live. Peace & Love, Rich
    I find your remarks to be heavy-handed and subtly discriminatory ("lily-white"?) Did you know that Hall and Oates topped the Billboard Black Singles chart in January 1982 with "I Can't Go For That (No Can Do)"? Or that in 1975, white artists like David Bowie (Fame), Frankie Valli (Swearin' To God) and Hamilton, Joe Frank and Reynolds (Fallin' In Love) charted on the Billboard Black Singles chart in 1975? The Bee Gees even made the Billboard Black Top 10 with "Too Much Heaven" in early 1979.
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    I totally agree...:icon_cool:
    Roy is cute! :icon_cool:
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    Sorry for sounding " heavy handed " on my remarks regarding the term " lily white " I knew that it would be a challenging statement. Yes you are correct on the other artists that you had mentioned to have great success on the black charts. I remember hearing Fame by D. Bowie or even Wild Cherries big hit on the black charts and thinking that it was a milestone. I think it was around 1973 or 74?? But I was just quoting a theory that I overheard within our mgt. team. Now if you look on the back of the cover. You will see how beautiful Cindy really is! She is probably 6'1" in heels and very statuesque when on stage. The name Cindy and Roy may have been an issue as well for not producing much record sales. Remember Donnie and Marie?? Too cutsie I guess. The band used to be called Cindy and the Censations and then later The New Censations. We were called " Cindy and Roy and The New Censations Band " Originally we had 4 front vocalists 2 black males and Cindy and Roy. Clay Hunt ( he had a solo album produced by Freddie Perrin from the Peaches and Herb fame ) Tony Tillman ( he had his own Vegas act for many years and played Sammy Davis Jr. in " The Rat Pack " in vegas ) Roy Wallman ( he was originally the bass player ) Cindy Wallman ( Uhlhorn ) on vocals. There are two great press articles regarding them from Billboard, March 8th, 1975 entitled Talent in Action, and The Washington Post Aug.15th 1973 entitled Musical Substance. We were from the D.C. Baltimore area. Wew!!! I guess I said it all! Peace and Love , Rich

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    Quote Originally Written by Salsoul1975 View Post
    Roy is cute! :icon_cool:
    You bet - and I also loved the way he moaned while brushing his teeth,too. :icon_lol:
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