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    Disco wasn't cool

    I remember as a teen that the guys in school liked stuff like Styx, Boston and Bruce Springsteen. If you said you liked disco you got a lot of razzing.

    Now all those cool guys have turned into bald, beer bellyed couch potatoes who's biggest excitement is going to their son's soccer game. :P :P :P :P :P :P

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    As it has often been said before: He who laughs last, laughs loudest. ;-) I suppose they were partly right though - disco was never cool, it was always HOT, heh, heh! Sign me, Forever Dancing...

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    You are right - Styx, Foreigner, Boston et al ruled the day back then, especially in mainstream America. But, those of us in and around NYC saw things differently (thank goodness!).

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    Re: Disco wasn't cool

    Quote Originally Written by nrgbeat
    I remember as a teen that the guys in school liked stuff like Styx, Boston and Bruce Springsteen. If you said you liked disco you got a lot of razzing.

    Now all those cool guys have turned into bald, beer bellyed couch potatoes who's biggest excitement is going to their son's soccer game. :P :P :P :P :P :P
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    That's some funny $#I+! because I'm none of the above and my son's in his third year of college!

    I never got a razzing whatsoever because in New York, we loved all kinds of songs from many genres of music.

    Coming from a DJ perspective, KTU can attest to my claim on Disco!

    Holler back!!!

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    I lived in the Bronx during those days and partied in Manhattan primarily back then. Disco was VERY cool in NYC. Once it was all over the radio and the TV that was the beginning of the end, but while it was still sor tof underground it was cool.

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    I never had a problem. I remember the first time I went into BJ's Disco in Worcester; two of my crew went into the Rock 'n Roll club next door, I was cool they were dressed like Goobers. :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Seriously though, I never had a problem and I never saw any of the homos who were in the same clubs get jazzed either.

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    Contrary to popular belief, disco has ALWAYS been cool! Maybe not in name, but in dance music it has! Even as the 1970s went into the 1980s, dance music of all sorts continued to thrive. Human League, ABC, The Pet Shop Boys, Duran Duran, Depeche Mode, among others help develop a "new" kind of disco (call it synthpop or British technopop). Then "House" developed. So, I'm hoping that all this time people hated the WORD disco, but NOT the MUSIC itself.

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    Quote Originally Written by discotom73
    Contrary to popular belief, disco has ALWAYS been cool! Maybe not in name, but in dance music it has! Even as the 1970s went into the 1980s, dance music of all sorts continued to thrive. Human League, ABC, The Pet Shop Boys, Duran Duran, Depeche Mode, among others help develop a "new" kind of disco (call it synthpop or British technopop). Then "House" developed. So, I'm hoping that all this time people hated the WORD disco, but NOT the MUSIC itself.
    Good point. I never really differentiate between disco, house, and new wave when thinking about dance music. It's only necessary when trying to discuss music with others that I find myself labeling the genres.

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    Here in Rio, in the late 70's, the whole city was into Disco and everybody loved it. The music press was another thing: some rock critics slashed it, but the big public went to the night clubs. Disco was cool.

    Every boy, girl, man & woman (straigths) were in the clubs, so there was no sign of DISCO being synonym to GAY lifestyle.

    The problem began when the 80's arrived:
    70's DISCO was swept away from the planet. The resulting sound (hi-nrg disco) was immediately connected to gay music... this time the press was ruthless. By then, it was totally ridiculous and cheese to be a DISCO fan or to be on a DISCO.

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    Re: Disco wasn't cool

    Quote Originally Written by nrgbeat
    Styx
    Styx was cool??? :o "Siiiiiiiiiiingforthedaaaaay" was cool? :lol:

    Going to the recordshop as a 14-year-old and buying Cerrone with a NUDE chica on the cover, that was cool OK! Taking the cover from Amanda Lear's "Sweet Revenge" to school, and show the pics to da buddies, that was cool!

    Asking your female English teacher what "Deep throat" means, that was cool! (And yeah, I got away with it)

    Kissing a half-naked Donna Summer as a 13-year old, that was cool!

    Wearing smelly jeans, filthy sneakers, long greasy hair and a jacket with Led Zeppelin on, was NOT cool! Drinking beer under a Che Guevara poster, listening to Bruce and changing the world! Those guys sucked!

    No, Disco was NOT cool in my hometown, but I didn't care, I had the fun, I got class, finesse and a whole lotta style. In fact I still have :lol: :lol: :lol:


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    Kissing a half-naked Donna Summer as a 13-year old, that was cool!
    What? You have to tell me more on that Videoskooter!

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    Nice Post

    Quote Originally Written by discotom73
    Contrary to popular belief, disco has ALWAYS been cool! Maybe not in name, but in dance music it has! Even as the 1970s went into the 1980s, dance music of all sorts continued to thrive. Human League, ABC, The Pet Shop Boys, Duran Duran, Depeche Mode, among others help develop a "new" kind of disco (call it synthpop or British technopop). Then "House" developed. So, I'm hoping that all this time people hated the WORD disco, but NOT the MUSIC itself.
    People have adjusted to music changes from the 70's until today and the feeling is great, right now!

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    Quote Originally Written by jam master jay
    You are right - Styx, Foreigner, Boston et al ruled the day back then, especially in mainstream America. But, those of us in and around NYC saw things differently (thank goodness!).
    I guess disco was never too white enough
    for white america back then

    I mean all the best cutz that still have some street credit
    and
    that aren't queer or high nrg

    had a lot of black flavour

    it was easier just listening to one of those rock bands pretending to read the rolling stone
    and just rolling with the times
    but honestly the rock back then was awful
    I mean Styx thank got that nobody actually remembers them

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    Quote Originally Written by Paulo
    Here in Rio, in the late 70's, the whole city was into Disco and everybody loved it. The music press was another thing: some rock critics slashed it, but the big public went to the night clubs. Disco was cool.

    Every boy, girl, man & woman (straigths) were in the clubs, so there was no sign of DISCO being synonym to GAY lifestyle.

    The problem began when the 80's arrived:
    70's DISCO was swept away from the planet. The resulting sound (hi-nrg disco) was immediately connected to gay music... this time the press was ruthless. By then, it was totally ridiculous and cheese to be a DISCO fan or to be on a DISCO.
    Somehow I still feel like the Brazilians got it more right then anyone else

    they loved disco when it was at its purest
    at its funkiest
    and grooviest

    ofcourse I have no real proof or idea about this just a feeling

    a saw that movie about the Brazilan street gangs in that ghetto
    City of God
    and back there they were listening as they said it
    to either
    Disco, Black or Traditional Brazilian music

    I would just like to know
    did the Black (James Brown and Motown) and Disco blend into each other in the eyes of a brazilian Paulo
    or did people keep it seperated


    as far has the disco, new wave/ house arguement

    I can partially agree but for me when disco turned to High Nrg
    Claudia Barry/ Fonda Rae
    it started going New Wave
    for me that was the end of the music I really digged

    I am just in it for the flat out funky grooves

    then its all good
    wheather the music instruments are acoustic or electrical

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    I was born in 77. As a kid in the 80s, I didnt even own one disco album. I didnt know even one disco song, but I could vagely remember hearing "upside down" by Diana Ross. Disco was as good as illigal. Nobody listened to it.By the very late 80s and early 90s, though, it started coming out a little. Still, you were a geek if you listened to it, so it was a bad word and nobody would ever admit listening to it. Example, In the Ghostbusters movie, the geeky guy was listening to the Tramps in his apartment.
    But then in the early 90s it was coming into style a bit, and now I dont give a crap. everyone knows its my main music and plenty of people listen to it. Thank God the days of stupid crappy rock music being cool is over. (at least for me, anyway). Now I think that people who listen to alternative and metal and stuff like that listen to boring, danceless garbage. I do enjoy some of todays hip hop and Rap quite a bit, and so I guess you could say that I really like black music in general.

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    Disco was all about class, finesse and style. The guys who hated it were just dorks and nothing other than Rock 'n Roll an' a bottle o' beer worked for them anyway... And you know; 25 years later they're still dorks. Just older, fatter and uglier but dorks none the less. I always wondered how guys like that ever got laid...? But then again some women will **** anything. :P

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    Disco music was less cool than Black dance music, especially for a DJ who'd been on the club scene for a good few years prior to its inception.

    After all is said and done, 'Disco' was at least three steps backwards, in the overall evolution of popular music.

    Yeah it did mean style, finesse and class..........in its purest form OLD man's style, OLD man's finesse and OLD man's class.

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    Oh man, Quinny sure does not travel or get out much, he certainly has not been to the Montjuic in Barcelona lately where the impossibly good looking young crowd dances to classic disco sounds, with style, finesse and class from the cars parked outside to the moves of the hips to the fashions both catwalk and street they're wearing. How about Paris - try disco nights soon to be inaugurated at one of the most prestigious venues in town. Style, class and finesse was much in evidence in the discotheque milieu back in the late 70's as well, the world over, more than anywhere else in fact and that included Britain too - and I'm not talking about piss-awful posing galleries like Studio 54, that's not class, that's crass. We had the moves, we had the clothes, we did not throw up from Ford Cortinas like the rock yobs did. Black music? Certainly, did not really make a difference what "colour" the sounds were, if we got a groove out of it it was good, just like it's today.

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    Quote Originally Written by DiscoMan
    Disco was all about class, finesse and style. The guys who hated it were just dorks and nothing other than Rock 'n Roll an' a bottle o' beer worked for them anyway... And you know; 25 years later they're still dorks. Just older, fatter and uglier but dorks none the less. I always wondered how guys like that ever got laid...? But then again some women will **** anything. :P

    I think this sums it up quite well disco is class
    and the Working White Class and White Trash
    never really appreciated the subtilities and the melody of it all they rather listen to something barbaric.

    I guess it depends what people associate to
    some associate themselves to Ancient Rome or Egypt

    While other sees themsevles as Barbaric Brittons, Celts or Visigoths

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    OK, I already know that disco rules. You don't have to convince me :)

    The interesting part of this topic, for me, is to remember how things were back then. I didn't read Rolling Stone (didn't know English BITD) but I remember the local magazines had plenty of articles about the new wave (white) bands, but nothing about the (mostly black) disco bands. The extent of their interest were bad reviews of soul and jazz stars tryin' disco (like Aretha's "La Diva" or Stanley Clarke's "sellout" records), sayin' that disco was dead every two months, and some small review of a soul record from time to time sayin' it was good "for all those interested in black music". Well, I was interested! :evil:

    Then Duran Duran were all over the place praising Tony Thompson and Nile Rodgers in the same mags that never had reserved space to do an interview with these people. :roll:

    Was it like this in the U.S. too? I suppose that's why you had disco mags (we hadn't). Disco shows on local radio always mentioned Billboard or Cashbox, never Circus or Rolling Stone.

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    "Rolling Stoned" has always been biased toward rock 'n roll. No other genre ever got a fair shake from "Rolling Stoned". I haven't bought an issue in years and to tell the truth have no idea what "Rolling Stoned" even writes about these days since rock 'n roll is as dead as Elvis Presley.

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    Quote Originally Written by DiscoMan
    "Rolling Stoned" has always been biased toward rock 'n roll. No other genre ever got a fair shake from "Rolling Stoned". I haven't bought an issue in years and to tell the truth have no idea what "Rolling Stoned" even writes about these days since rock 'n roll is as dead as Elvis Presley.
    I couldn't agree with you more. Today, this magazine is even worse than it ever was...it tries to be relevant by featuring articles on Mariah Carey and Britney Spears husband. Complete fish-wrap!

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    The Rolling Stone magazine? Rockist as it may be these days let's not forget the excellent, groundbreaking book published by them in 1975/76 called "Dancing Madness", a volume expanded from an article on the emerging disco scene. This is apparently the first non-fiction book on the subject, complete with priceless photographs, record reviews, testimonies by celebs such as Hollywood di Russo, footwork charts for curious very early versions of the hustle, instructions for line dances, interviews of djs etc - pretty much everything there was to know back in early 1976 to be a Star.

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    uh hello, disco was huge back in the late 70's and way more popular than rock. You might recall the big disco backlash in Comiskey Park. Guess what type of people were blowing up disco records? That's right the rockers! Their reason? They were jealous that disco was taking away rock's thunder and spotlight and what they stood for: drugs, sex, partying, and having a good time. What could be done with rock was done better with disco and the rocker fanatics disliked that.

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    What could be done with rock was done better with disco and the rocker fanatics disliked that.
    Excellent point Stevieboy. I remember going to showband clubs in the days before Disco (yes there were such things) and while the music was excellent top 40s rock 'n roll it was damn near impossible to dance to. Which is why Disco took off the way it did in '74 and '75... :D

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