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    Discopia Webzine - The Big Gay Issue

    Latest issue of Discopia has just gone online:
    http://www.discopia.com/portal/issues/issue6/

    Issue 6: The Big Gay Issue

    Disco Sucks?
    How disco became the most vilified music of all time. By Niall Connolly

    The Castro Connection
    From Gay Disco to High Energy. By Greg Wilson

    Nicky Siano Interview part 1
    by Niall Connolly

    Nicky Siano Interview part 2
    by Niall Connolly

    House Music 101
    Apollo's House Music 101

    Horse Meat Disco - WTF?
    Questions set by Niall Connolly.

    Memories of San Fran
    by Daniel Wang

    Record reviews
    New purchases for October 2005

    Mark (Readers Wifes / Duckie) Italo Top 10
    An Italo top 10 from Mark Johnstone of The Readers Wifes

    Vauxhall is Gurning Review
    Review of the Horse Meat Disco Vogue Ball, 3rd December 2005 by Niall Connolly. Images by Alex Klestra.

    The One In Ten Xmas Top 10
    A top 10 from Andrew Back & Niall Connolly

    Gay Record Sleeves Top 10
    By DJ X

    Jack Archer (Lovebug) Top 10
    A Top 10 from Jack Archer of Glasgow's Lovebug

    Classic Disco LPs: Patrick Cowley "Megatron Man"
    Patrick Cowley "Megatron Man" by Andrew Back

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    Thanks for that link! Never heard of this magazine before.. I especially enjoyed the Nicky Siano interview, very interesting reading about the beginnings of disco in the gay scene, his thoughts on DJing today and the spell of Grace Jones :). He comes across really well in the interview, I think I'm gonna be there for a while reading the rest of the issue..

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    BTW should have mentioned that there's a live mix (in 2 parts) from Les Cokell, recorded in Hero's / Manchester in 1983.

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    Hello-Greg-I am a big fan of your work,and this issue of
    the online mag was fascinating
    and enlightning.In the Nicky
    Siano interview he mentions
    a comp coming out called
    "45's that gave birth to disco'
    that he is involved with.Do
    you know a tracklisting or
    any info not mentioned about this comp? It sounds like it could be amazing with his input.Thanks Greg
    Thom

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    That'd be awesome. His first comp on Soul Jazz was really well done and I'll be forever grateful for discovering "Big John Is My Name" and "We're Getting Stronger" on there.

    Beautiful layout too. Soul Jazz & BBE are out there giving disco fans what they want

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    Quote Originally Written by thommy2458
    In the Nicky
    Siano interview he mentions
    a comp coming out called
    "45's that gave birth to disco'
    that he is involved with.Do
    you know a tracklisting or
    any info not mentioned about this comp? It sounds like it could be amazing with his input.Thanks Greg
    Thom
    Hi thommy2458: Afraid I can't help you. I emailed Discopia, but they don't seem to know either. I'll post info if I hear anything.

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    You know, after the xth reading of the disco sucks event I am really wondering, what the **** was wrong with disco that they hated to so much? excuse the language, but in the age where this stupic, mindless and melodyless shitty rap/hiphop is POLLUTING the airwaves of all the world for YEARS, where oh where is the hiphop backlash? hello? yes really, where is it?? You can't excape this NON-music it's everywhere, mtv, radion, movies, I mean come onnnn, if there is some form of "music" that deserves to be silenced forever than this is it!! I cant be the only one who thinks of this everytime he/she thinks of the disco backlash!

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    Westwood wrote:
    this stupic, mindless and melodyless shitty rap/hiphop is POLLUTING the airwaves of all the world since YEARS, where oh where is the hiphop backlash? hello? yes really, where is it?? You can't excape this NON-music it's everywhere, mtv, radion, movies, I mean come onnnn, if there is some
    That's nothing.

    Indie rock from early 90's to today's 00's is even worse. Everthing sounds the same. Monotonous... no matter how high the guitar is. Monochordic.

    MTV keeps saying rock and roll will never die.
    It is already dead. It just forgot to lie down and close its eyes.

    In the past, everybody said that all disco sounded the same and no one knew who was who.

    And now?
    Can anyone tell the diffrence between rock songs? You don't know if it is A or B. Everything is too equal. There should be a rock sucks and a rock backlash too.

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    Just complementing...

    ...The brazilian dance magazine BEATZ said that 2005 was an awful year for the dance music scene which is getting smaller. It lost space for ROCK and HIP-HOP.

    And I can see in the 3 big Rio CD mega-stores (Saraiva, Fnac and Modern Sound) that the dance/house/techno sections were reduced to a smaller bin.

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    Quote Originally Written by Westwood
    excuse the language, but in the age where this stupic, mindless and melodyless shitty rap/hiphop is POLLUTING the airwaves of all the world since YEARS, where oh where is the hiphop backlash? hello? yes really, where is it?? You can't excape this NON-music it's everywhere, mtv, radion, movies, I mean come onnnn, if there is some form of "music" that deserves to be silenced forever than this is it!! I cant be the only one who thinks of this everytime he/she thinks of the disco backlash!
    I certainly have wondered why rap music caught on in popularity and became the "music" of choice for so many in mainstream society although I don't feel that this age of rap and hiphop has any similarity to the once popular disco era. It probably has more to do with society's self-conscious need for something fresh and different (like a change in government :roll: )

    Perhaps it's my rose-coloured glasses, but I look back at the seventies as an ideal time for music. Although the harshness of rock music never appealed to my gentle soul :lol: , I do appreciate and understand the talent and passion of rock artists of that era. I don't think of disco as something that developed out of anti-rock sentiment....on the contrary, I think of it as an entity that materialized in the same way: a great passion for music and along with it, a passion for dancing. I really felt it was a good marriage but, unfortunately, the rock fan didn't....and even though I blame a lot of the backlash on white, straight males demanding to take back their spotlight, it does show passion for music which, in my view, is at least, comforting. For the most part, the music scene in the seventies centred around talent and creativity first...image was second.

    Currently, I feel that music, in general, has taken a backseat in today's society. It's become unimportant, highly disposable and a desired means to celebrity. Passion and leisure time for music has been replaced with our fascination with digital technology and the internet but, there's still that purcolating need for expression. Through our need for musical change plus major hype, rap and hiphop caught on as a tough medium for expression...becoming the white boy's rock music. It's the needed vehicle to release anger...the only emotion safe for guys to reveal publicly. On the positive side, I do believe that we have seen the peak of it's popularity.

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    Quote Originally Written by Paulo
    Westwood wrote:
    this stupic, mindless and melodyless shitty rap/hiphop is POLLUTING the airwaves of all the world since YEARS, where oh where is the hiphop backlash? hello? yes really, where is it?? You can't excape this NON-music it's everywhere, mtv, radion, movies, I mean come onnnn, if there is some
    That's nothing.

    Indie rock from early 90's to today's 00's is even worse. Everthing sounds the same. Monotonous... no matter how high the guitar is. Monochordic.

    MTV keeps saying rock and roll will never die.
    It is already dead. It just forgot to lie down and close its eyes.

    In the past, everybody said that all disco sounded the same and no one knew who was who.

    And now?
    Can anyone tell the diffrence between rock songs? You don't know if it is A or B. Everything is too equal. There should be a rock sucks and a rock backlash too.
    Mmmmm, don't totally agree with these statements even as a huge fan of all things Disco Soul & Funk. As I am of a certain age I have a house full of teenagers into 'their' music. One son is a big punk fan (not the US version of punk) but the hardcore British type - another son is into Funky and Deep House and my daughter is into 'commercial' hip hop & rap and in every room you enter in my house you hear a different type of music. Rock is not just noise and evey band has its own style and 'point' to get across. Some, of course is rubbish (but I would also say that every genre of music has rubbish in it). I'd rather listen to an album by Ramstein or Korn then Boney M for example.

    The point here is that there is still creativity happening in all types of music - which is the name of the game and that to say Rock is dead is an exaggeration (to say the least), amd that Rap/Hip Hop is melodyless does not pay justice to the hugely successful crossover artists such as 50 cent & Eminen.

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    I can't help smiling at the irony that someone called Westwood is so anti-Hip-Hop :lol: (UK members will know exactly what I mean).

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    ..yes really, where is the melody in that music? Perhaps stolen from disco songs, and the rest of the track is rapping. Eminem and 50 Cent hugely successful yes I can't deny it, deserved, good music? NO. Crossover into what?

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    Quote Originally Written by Greg Wilson
    I can't help smiling at the irony that someone called Westwood is so anti-Hip-Hop :lol: (UK members will know exactly what I mean).
    I noticed that too!! :lol: :lol:

    Quote Originally Written by Westwood
    Crossover into what?
    Popular culture....I recognise that Hip Hop and Rap is not everyone's cup of tea. It's not universally popular in the UK, particularly in the shires of leafy England. It's a fairly 'urban' gritty music - and dare I suggest that it can be fairly hard to digest if you've never shared the experiences/daily life of someone living in a major conurbation (like London, NYC, LA, even Paris) but just as House music (also stolen from Disco songs) is the child of Disco then I'd suggest Hip Hop and rap is the child of Funk.

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    ...Irony of Westwood....Yes :lol:
    I like the dude's lingo, but he is SOO cringworthy on that Pimp My Ride UK.. a case of having a face for radio :D


    Not all Hip Hop/Rap is bad, but listening to Radio 5 interview with 50Cent today, you see it is just a facade an act, and you know that the kids are being milked for their money, since the days of Rock n Roll, etc, ...Deja Vu..
    The conglomorates see the rebellion of the youths passing through that 'rebellious/want to be different phase in life and fashion acts to meet with their transient state,
    whilst ensuring the images/acts/saturation mean they keep paying their money over the counter/Internet/ etc.. etc..!!!

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    Head lamp wrote:
    The point here is that there is still creativity happening in all types of music - which is the name of the game and that to say Rock is dead is an exaggeration (to say the least)
    Headlamp:
    When I said that rock was dead and that it only just forgot to lie down and close its eyes, I was just being ironic... Of course, a style of music which sells millions of records moving ahead the POP industry can't be dead. it is very alive.

    As Neil Tennant of the pet shop boys once said : the fastest way to a large bank account is to form a rock band.

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