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    Happy Holidays????????

    This was just on our evening news: Americans are fighting the battle of political correctness! It seems there's a whole battle going on on what you wish to people nowadays, in this festive period.

    Some want to see "Merry Christmas" replaced by "Happy Holidays" and a "Christmas Tree" must be called a "Holiday Tree". Even the Prez is criticised for using the term "Happy Holidays" on his wishing cards.

    What's suddenly so wrong with Merry Christmas??????

    Compromise: Say it in Dutch!


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    Or say it in Spanish:

    Feliz Navidad y Prospero Ano Nuevo (Merry Christmas and Happy New Year).

    There should be a tilde over the n in Ano. :D

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    Quote Originally Written by nrgbeat
    Or say it in Spanish:

    Feliz Navidad y Prospero Ano Nuevo (Merry Christmas and Happy New Year).

    There should be a tilde over the n in Ano. :D
    It is far too easy for non-Spanish speakers to mispronounce it as "Happy New Anus".

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    I've heard about this but it's overstated. I sense 2 things here. First, I think it's mostly right wing media demagogues blowing this thing way outta proportion. They do it to distract the sheep about Bush's failed policies on every front except lining the pockets of his wealthy supporters.
    Secondly, the whining about saying Happy Holidays over Merry Xmas plays well with those christians who love to feel persecuted.

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    PAUL : BINGO !!!! 100% correct !!!



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    "Christmas" has in reality nothing to do with Jesus BTW. 25 of December is originally the birthday of the Roman god "Mitras".

    It was the Roman general Julius Africanus who became a Christian that set this date to be the birthday of Jesus.

    And the "Christmas Tree" is in fact an old Germanic paganist's symbol thus a Wicca ritual!

    And for once the President is not endorsing the strict evangelistic politics, he's once again criticised. I just hope the next Democratic president won't be too dissapointing for you guys :o

    Mr. and Mrs. Ketchup, grand theft Hilary or why not, the holy Hugo Chavez, the biggest fraud after Fidelio Castrato. The man who's good friends with the raving lunatics of the world like the ayatollahs. Be careful for the right wing propanganda but keep your eyes wide open for the leftist wizzards of posh.
    BTW, Merry Christmas my friends . :D


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    I just hope the next Democratic president won't be too dissapointing for you guys
    I hope so too, VS , ............ but I doubt it .


    Every President since Jimmy Carter has been down right sh*tty ..... and I see no signs for it to change ........ :(

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    Quote Originally Written by remicks
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    I knew there were some smart people here :lol:

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    Quote Originally Written by Videoskooter
    "Christmas" has in reality nothing to do with Jesus BTW. 25 of December is originally the birthday of the Roman god "Mitras".

    It was the Roman general Julius Africanus who became a Christian that set this date to be the birthday of Jesus.

    And the "Christmas Tree" is in fact an old Germanic paganist's symbol thus a Wicca ritual!

    And for once the President is not endorsing the strict evangelistic politics, he's once again criticised. I just hope the next Democratic president won't be too dissapointing for you guys :o

    Mr. and Mrs. Ketchup, grand theft Hilary or why not, the holy Hugo Chavez, the biggest fraud after Fidelio Castrato. The man who's good friends with the raving lunatics of the world like the ayatollahs. Be careful for the right wing propanganda but keep your eyes wide open for the leftist wizzards of posh.
    BTW, Merry Christmas my friends . :D

    I here ya on the xmas history Johan. In fact the early christian settlers in the US rejected Christmas because of it's "pagan" roots. How ironic now to see the fundementalist christian minority go ape over Happy Holidays. It's those people who are upset with bush's Happy Holidays. :roll:

    This is where we part company Johan Hugo is supplying discounted heating oil via Citgo. Citgo is a petroleum company owned by the Venezualan government. While it is easy to have political differences when you are in a warm house, some peolple may not have that luxury. Bush and his republican government promised a few months back to help with heating oil due to the high prices. As usual it was all talk. They did nothing and are off for the holidays. **** the little people right. Anyway it was some Dem congress people who worked out a deal with Hugo to get discounted oil. Republicans talk the talk and are about slogans that engage in no critical thinking or actually resolving issues. Dems walk the walk the walk!
    On behalf of many Americans I say thank you Hugo 8)

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    Yes I know Paul, I saw it on the news that he supplied that cheap oil to the poor families and that's indeed the task of the US government.

    But....always keep in mind that all dictators (left and right) have started with such charity. Then they get a political victory, they are strongly in power and then the **** hits the fence!

    Everybody who doesn't agree with them is suspect, they "dissapear" and the once charming revolutionaries suddenly change into bloody tyrants. You're a smart guy Paul, you must know that!

    Remember Fidel? Freedom of expression in Cuba? Freedom of choice in Cuba? High standards of living for the Cubans? Free elections in Cuba? I don't think so. Is this all the result of the American boycot? Be serious, no! This is the result when fundamentalists come in power! Their doctrines are the right ones and they don't tolerate other views.

    You think a discussion board like this would be tolerated over there? No way! One of my Bumpercartracks is doing in tour in China and when my staff wants to contact me over the net, they are almost under surveillance of the Chinese autorities and then I'm not even speaking of the corrupt and law-breaking officials. That's the country of the great visionary idiot and moron Mao! He also started as a "friend of the people" remember?

    And a guy like holy Hugo who's so close and friendly with one of those pigs that are behind the deathly attacks on many innocent Western people looks very suspicious to me.

    In Belgium, over the last weeks a hard dispute is going on over the rise of censorship and the limitation of freedom of expression that's evolving in our Kingdom. And you know who caused the incidents? No, not the rightwingers but Socialists and extreme leftists.

    They bring every person to court who is saying that quote "we have to be careful with the rise of Islam in Europe"-end quote.

    That's already considered as racism.

    On the other hand, there was a case against Belgian singer Raymond Van Het Groenewoud for his recent song with the title "F*ck America" where he ridiculises and insults your great country and its people:

    http://www.raymondvanhetgroenewoud.b...en/amerika.htm

    This case was rejected coz' the leftists (yes the socialists) said this was justified and thus it could not be considered as racism :evil:

    That's the new political correctness in some states of Europe. Helping victims of the Tsunami and the earthquake in Pakistan is our duty but what did our governments do for the poor Americans whose lives were devastated by the hurricanes?

    Almost nothing! No collections, no telethons. When they showed the terrible images on the evening news the commentators were making jokes about it.(Look at those Americans!)

    Remember Bernie's topic about the common sense? :evil:

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    Keep in mind Johan that Chavez was twice democratically elected and remains hugely popular with a majority of Venezuluans. So calling him a dictator is incorrect. The second election by the way came about as a result of a failed coup supported by Bush. Here's a bit of irony. This coup attempt came just after 9/11. Many Americans at the time were asking "why they hate us?"
    Your point is well taken about dictators and I do not support that.
    As for our freedoms, in particular freedom of speech, funny you should mention that. It's been revealed recently that the Pentagon is spying on Americans. Not terribly new since I remember this back during the Vietnam days. Now they've lessen the restrictions. I've been hearing they've targeted blogs (like this one), anti-war activist, and Dean For America people. I fall into all 3 categories :o
    These are dark times. I've heard though that not all in the Pentagon favor such un-American activities and they are the source of this info. In other words they are putting the word out in hopes people can pull in the reins on this regime.
    Anyway, here's one article on this. By the way, I love bush, I love bush... 8)
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5197014/site/newsweek/

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    Quote Originally Written by remicks


    Every President since Jimmy Carter has been down right sh*tty ..... and I see no signs for it to change ........ :(

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    Jimmy Carter was a good prez? :o :o this has got to be the worst disaster ever to seat in the White House in my life time so far, even Clinton was an over achiever when compared to him :lol: we came this close to having the commies knocking at our door :evil: ...

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    Quote Originally Written by paul
    How ironic now to see the fundementalist christian minority go ape over Happy Holidays. It's those people who are upset with bush's Happy Holidays. :roll:
    where did you get your numbers from? Salon.com or Radio Free America? :lol: :lol: Tell them to give you a refund, :lol: 80 % of America celebrates Christmas and/or set up Christmas trees, you are the minority dude :lol:

    Anyway it was some Dem congress people who worked out a deal with Hugo to get discounted oil. Republicans talk the talk and are about slogans that engage in no critical thinking or actually resolving issues.
    :lol: really? :lol: again, ask for a refund, :lol: actually member of both parties have contacted leftist Chavez for a piece of the deal, even Millionare Indian Tribes all the way from Nevada.

    Dems walk the walk the walk!
    On behalf of many Americans I say thank you Hugo 8)
    Listen to another "Useful fool" thanking our busy enemies trying to divide and conquer, give you a bit of info, Chavez is one of the main reasons why oil is so expensive to begin with, he's been pushing OPEC to raise prices for many years to squeeze America and finance leftist revolts around South America, and especially to finance his stay in power by giving away free hand outs to his leftist supporters.

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    Quote Originally Written by paul
    Keep in mind Johan that Chavez was twice democratically elected and remains hugely popular with a majority of Venezuluans. So calling him a dictator is incorrect. The second election by the way came about as a result of a failed coup supported by Bush. Here's a bit of irony. This coup attempt came just after 9/11. Many Americans at the time were asking "why they hate us?"
    Hey Paul, Have you ever met a Venezuelan? remember there is a big difference between what Salon.com prints and the truth, and the only people that claims Bush supported the Coup is you and your leftist friends, including Chavez of course.

    Chavez IS a Dictator! He's changing the laws with his cronies in congress and courts and is slowly dismantaling all democratic institutions, including the free press that has been intimidated into silence.
    Do you know that they pass a broad law where any one that says anything that causes a public demostration or anti goverment sentiment can be arrested ?, TV station or Papers can be shut down?

    as a result opposing political commentary is non existent on the air as editors and News directors stay away from political controversy to avoid punishment, even popular talk Radio show hosts cut off callers expressing goverment opposition, they play the Video version down here, Do you get to see this shows in your neck of the woods Paul? You should seek them out, may be you'll get a better idea of who you are supporting.

    did you read how a few months back Chavez confiscated Heinz catchup plant? I'm sure what his name that ran for prez? was not very amused, the "referendum" you speak of was a fraud affair, and guess who was over seeing the results, Jimmy Carter! need I say more ?

    And just last week the majorty of the voters that participated in last election boycotted the congressional elections in an act of "No confidence" on Chavez's rule, despite the embarrasment ( Blamed on who else , the US) Chavez won any ways and is now changing presidential limits to stay in power for ever!!!

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    Oh Yes, Merry Christmas every body, :lol:

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    Quote Originally Written by Mixmachine

    Jimmy Carter was a good prez? :o :o this has got to be the worst disaster ever to seat in the White House in my life time so far, even Clinton was an over achiver when compared to him :lol:
    Careful! You're almost saying something nice about Clinton there MM !! They'll be having you surrender your Sean Hannity Newsletter membership !! :D

    As far as the great Jimmy Carter's Presidency goes ......
    I have just two words to say about that : " DISCO " !!!! ... :D :D :D

    It's no coincidence that they both overlapped each other exactly ...... our greatest period ever in the history of the United States ...... The JIMMY CARTER / DISCO Era !!! :D 8) :D
    'Nuff Said/ Case Closed !!!

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    ...were you sober then? :lol: :lol:
    You know I've never really had any problems with alcohol ..... then or now ........ unlike our current Prez. :lol: :lol:
    I wish that he could kick the bottle ..... but I'm afraid his brain is so fried now, that regardless , he'll always have to have those ever present cheat-sheet cue cards of his in order to complete even the simplest of sentences ..... nevermind trying to convincingly convey those talking points others have pre-fed him . :oops: :oops:

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    Quote Originally Written by Mixmachine
    Quote Originally Written by remicks


    Every President since Jimmy Carter has been down right sh*tty ..... and I see no signs for it to change ........ :(

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    Jimmy Carter was a good prez? :o :o this has got to be the worst disaster ever to seat in the White House in my life time so far, even Clinton was an over achiever when compared to him :lol: we came this close to having the commies knocking at our door :evil: ...
    OK, let try again. I had all this stuff for ya last night on Carter on the other things you raised Mix but my internet service shut down and I wasn't able to get back on last night. Hmmm :o
    Well, let's see if I can trigger that shut down again
    Happy Holidays by the way Mix.
    As for Carter, he was stymied by economic issues but at least I wasn't worried about the Pentagon spying on me. :o
    Think if we had only followed Carter energy policy of alternative energy and conservation where we'd be some 30 years now. As soon as Reagan got in he killed all of that.
    Bush is clearly the worst Pres ever, period. If you can manage this little bit of critical thinking, read this article.
    http://www.niemanwatchdog.org/index....ackgroundid=63

    If it's too much for you to digest, I'll sum up. Bush's illegal Iraq war may trigger larger more dangerous wars if he's not careful. Bush is the epitome of disaster.
    Oh, one more thing. Remicks is right. The fact that disco was a Carter era thing makes him better than the current poser in the White House.

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    Quote Originally Written by Mixmachine
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    How ironic now to see the fundementalist christian minority go ape over Happy Holidays. It's those people who are upset with bush's Happy Holidays. :roll:
    where did you get your numbers from? Salon.com or Radio Free America? :lol: :lol: Tell them to give you a refund, :lol: 80 % of America celebrates Christmas and/or set up Christmas trees, you are the minority dude :lol:

    I'm not entirely sure what you point is as it relates to what I wrote but check this out.
    http://www.gazette.com/display.php?id=1312702&secid=1
    Note this is not from Salon or Air America, thus should be an easy read for you. Also note at the end they say Some conservative "Christian leaders are upset over the 1.4 million cards sent by the White House, wishing recipients a happy “holiday season.”"


    Anyway it was some Dem congress people who worked out a deal with Hugo to get discounted oil. Republicans talk the talk and are about slogans that engage in no critical thinking or actually resolving issues.
    :lol: really? :lol: again, ask for a refund, :lol: actually member of both parties have contacted leftist Chavez for a piece of the deal, even Millionare Indian Tribes all the way from Nevada.

    Umm, it was Joe Kennedy and Dem Massachussetes Representative that got the deal. Perhaps you are confused here. In fact reading what you've written here, you also imply that the other groups want a piece of the deal already made by Kennedy and Rep. William Delahunt.
    Here's an article from the NY Post. I think they are still owned by Murdoch who owns Fox. You should like that.

    http://breakingnews.nypost.com/dynam...12-01-21-14-10

    Dems walk the walk the walk!
    On behalf of many Americans I say thank you Hugo 8)
    Listen to another "Useful fool" thanking our busy enemies trying to divide and conquer, give you a bit of info, Chavez is one of the main reasons why oil is so expensive to begin with, he's been pushing OPEC to raise prices for many years to squeeze America and finance leftist revolts around South America, and especially to finance his stay in power by giving away free hand outs to his leftist supporters.
    Again with the rants of a madman. You've made similar sorts of assertions before and I gave you the benefit of the doubt by asking you support them. I haven't seen anything. What am I supposed to think. I will therefore give this comment all the thought it deserves.

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    Quote Originally Written by Mixmachine
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    Keep in mind Johan that Chavez was twice democratically elected and remains hugely popular with a majority of Venezuluans. So calling him a dictator is incorrect. The second election by the way came about as a result of a failed coup supported by Bush. Here's a bit of irony. This coup attempt came just after 9/11. Many Americans at the time were asking "why they hate us?"
    Hey Paul, Have you ever met a Venezuelan? remember there is a big difference between what Salon.com prints and the truth, and the only people that claims Bush supported the Coup is you and your leftist friends, including Chavez of course.

    Read these:
    http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/a...ela/index.html

    http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLI...ela/index.html

    http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/04/2...ela/index.html

    Anybody with any intellectual curiousity would have to wonder what sort of role the Bush crime family had in the failed coup. Also note that some South and Central American countries were concerned about US reaction.
    Chavez IS a Dictator! He's changing the laws with his cronies in congress and courts and is slowly dismantaling all democratic institutions, including the free press that has been intimidated into silence.
    Do you know that they pass a broad law where any one that says anything that causes a public demostration or anti goverment sentiment can be arrested ?, TV station or Papers can be shut down?

    as a result opposing political commentary is non existent on the air as editors and News directors stay away from political controversy to avoid punishment, even popular talk Radio show hosts cut off callers expressing goverment opposition, they play the Video version down here, Do you get to see this shows in your neck of the woods Paul? You should seek them out, may be you'll get a better idea of who you are supporting.

    did you read how a few months back Chavez confiscated Heinz catchup plant? I'm sure what his name that ran for prez? was not very amused, the "referendum" you speak of was a fraud affair, and guess who was over seeing the results, Jimmy Carter! need I say more ?

    I did read that some of his supporters wish to change term limits. Not something I'm terribly thrilled about but far from the sky is falling. Again though, supply me with sources.
    Wouldn't this be even more true:
    Bush IS a Dictator! He's changing the laws with his cronies in congress and courts and is slowly dismantaling all democratic institutions, including the free press that has been intimidated into silence.
    Do you know that they pass a broad law where any one that says anything that causes a public demostration or anti goverment sentiment can be arrested ?, TV station or Papers can be shut down?


    And just last week the majorty of the voters that participated in last election boycotted the congressional elections in an act of "No confidence" on Chavez's rule, despite the embarrasment ( Blamed on who else , the US) Chavez won any ways and is now changing presidential limits to stay in power for ever!!!
    Umm, it is not entirely clear why the turnout was low based on the mixed reports I've read.

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    Yes Paul, Mix is right! It's a fact that those last elections were a joke.

    A bad joke, I'm afraid coz' Mix is 100% right on many things. Chavez is boosting up the oilprices. Chavez is oppressing other views and he is changing all the rules to stay in power. He slightly is becoming one of THE new dictators in South-America.

    And why didn't you react to the pic I placed twice on this board? Chavez in companionship of that lunatic ayatollah? Please don't say it's photoshop coz' that pic is 100% genuine! Have you read what the Iranian president is preaching the last weeks? The guy (yes, I will stay polite) Yugo is walking with is one of the bloodbrothers from that president.

    You don't call these people a threath to modern society? Do you really think that liberal politics are the best for da common people?

    Do you know how high the unemployment rate and statistics of poverty have risen in Belgium the las 7 years? Do you know who's in power here? It's the socialist party, I'm very sorry to tell you that. All the statefunds that we christian-democrats had saved in the former government and that was aimed for social security, health care, education, it's all gone my friend.

    The neo-commies spended it and threw it out of the windows.

    You know how? In the first year they were in power they were giving presents to all the people that really don't need it. "If you don't wanna work? Hey, that's okay man! we'll give you that money? What? A company has offered you a job? No, refuse it! Stay at home and develop your chakra!" I'm not kidding here. Only 1 of 3 Belgians work for their income but they (and I) are paying damn high taxes (58%) to support the new hippies!

    Now is that good for da people? I don't think so, because the treasury is getting empty and the people who really need it can go on the street and beg for money. Visit the capital of Europe, Brussels one time and see behind the the big party headquarters of the Socialist party how people are sleeping on the streets in freezing cold.

    Socialism=solution???? A bunch of pocket-filling hypocrits :evil:

    BTW, I still love you Paul, you're a great guy and I mean that

    BTW, be careful with large links because the screen is expaaaaaaaaanding :lol:

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    Hey Johan. I love ya too bro. Happy Holidays to you
    You are my disco hoppin' bud 8)
    Now let's get down to politics 8)
    Neither you nor Mix have supplied any evidence to to backup your assertions. Anyone can have an opinion, make a claim, engage in hyperbole, etc. Unless there is some support behind these they remain baseless opinion. There credibility therefore should be suspect.
    The last elections had a low turnout in Venezuala from what I've read. You guys then make the leap that he's oppressing their rights to vote. Is that logical? In the US we frequently have very low turnouts. I beleive the last state elections in California had a low turnout, around 40 odd percent. Would it be fair to argue that Arni was suppressing votes?
    I didn't react to the picture because he is a duly elected head of state who can meet with whomever he chooses. With all do respect, is there this sort of reaction when American and European heads of state meet with whomever? Some of these people like the Bush and Saudi leader photo in this thread are people who are tyrants. What I sense here is a "white man's burden" thing. Leaders in these non European and American nations needn't have permission from Europe or DC to visit other heads of state. And quite frankly, let's put the cards on the table. America overthrew the first Democartically elected government in Iran in the '50s and supported the Shah. It is no secret that the US has been involved with coups and other military and political shenanigans in Central and South America. With that in mind, it only makes sense that the heads of state of these nations meet and perhaps form alliances of some sort.
    Liberal politics in my view is best especially when compared to conservatism. Perfect it certainly is not. Nothing man has invented is. Liberalism when done properly though will change if things aren't working as intended. With conservative politics, it's often driven by some rigid ideology that refuses to change. As a result, it things arent working as intended, they'll keep going at it thinking the ideology is right but something else must be wrong.
    As a practical matter in the US, it's liberalism that has brought everything from workplace labor standards, to public education, to protecting our civil rights to name just a few.
    As for what's going on in Belgium and the "liberals" there, that's a subject you are more familiar with and I'd have to research. Funny thing though, it is the Bush crime family's conservatism that is raiding our social security, running up record deficits and increased poverty. The poverty in the US (I cited that once here) has gone up every year these criminals have been in office.
    Clearly Belgium and not too many nations can afford to have 1/3 working to support the other 2/3. If the liberals there are truly that, they will have to do some economic and governmental restructuring.

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    Paul, I'm getting sea-sick of reading the replys on this wide screen :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Scrolling from left to right like the topic itself.

    First, I didn't say the elections were won by oppressing the voters. A large amount of Venezuelans didn't bother coz' they are opposed to Yugo's neo-communist politics.

    Facts? Aren't the Kennedy's democrats???

    http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...2/171616.shtml
    http://www.opinionjournal.com/editor...l?id=110007615
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Com...23_05_PMB.html

    Paul, politics are politics but you can be damn sure that Yugo also has a hidden agenda and you will see this "Caring guy-el jeffe de Caracas" turn into a bloody tirant over the next years.

    And of course he can meet other heads of state but I'm sorry not the people that want to destroy our way of life and oppress us with their fundamentalistic religion, like those nutcase ayatollahs.

    And like I said many times on the board, the same goes for the ultra-religious fools like Pat Robertson too. Religion is a personal and private matter! But I surely will never bow down for an Ayatollah or for a new Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao or Fidel! Let that be very clear. And about the Shah? Are the Iranian people better off with the current regime? Human rights? Democracy? Freedom of speech? Do you know how many Iranian political refugees there are in Belgium? You want Iran to become a nuclear power? Do you trust that government? Well, I don't!

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    Every President since Jimmy Carter has been down right sh*tty ..... and I see no signs for it to change ........ :(

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    Jimmy Carter was a good prez? :o :o this has got to be the worst disaster ever to seat in the White House in my life time so far, even Clinton was an over achiever when compared to him :lol: we came this close to having the commies knocking at our door :evil: ...
    OK, let try again. I had all this stuff for ya last night on Carter on the other things you raised Mix but my internet service shut down and I wasn't able to get back on last night. Hmmm :o
    Yeah, they are monitoring your line and they cut you off to keep you down!!!! :lol: , you and your Salon.com parrotings have such weight in world affairs and the survival of the Country that the PREZ personally has a full time CIA team working 24/7 just to monitor your important pronauncements on a DIsco Board of all places!. :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Well, let's see if I can trigger that shut down again
    Some one thinks pretty high of himself :lol: you couldn't shut me down if you were standing next to me. Like John Wayne said "That'd be the day" :lol:

    Fact is that you are a boring and predictable inductrinated leftist stooly ( I came from a country full of them so I know) that constantly regurgitates(sp) every spoon fed propaganda piece your masters feeds you. ( you even find the links :lol:) You are not capable of analizing "News" and opinions from all sides of the political spectrum and reach and informed conclusion that has any samblance(sp) of "Logic" to it, your opinions are pre -fab by someone else with an agenda that high jacked your brain and has turn you into the "Useful fool " the old commies loved. And you don't even know it :lol:


    As for Carter, he was stymied by economic issues but at least I wasn't worried about the Pentagon spying on me. :o
    Apparently all that 70's funk music did wonders to your short term memory :lol:

    Let's see how mine is doing,
    Castro and the KGB were supporting communist guerrillas/narco gangs in an effort to destabilise the region in Guatemala , El Salvador, Nicaragua, Colombia, Peru, Mexico etc and Carter did nothing.
    OPEC and the oil embargo destroyed the USA economy and Latin America plunged into more caos and poverty, for instance the Apparel industry collapsed. Carter did nothing but smile :lol:

    The USSR invaded Afganistan and moved into Egypt and Syria, Cuban troops moved into Ethiopia and Angola (working for the USSR)and Iran took American Diplomats hostages and Carter did nothing and what little he did was a failure
    Unemployment was rampant, and biz failures hit record highs( I believe even Chrysler almost went under rescued later by Reagan) and the Stock Market hit record Lows with crime spiking to historical levels. Here in Miami Castro sent thousands of undisaribles and criminals from his jails among the Mariel refugees, Carter did nothing and allowed Castro to have his way instead of forcing him (Castro) to take back the criminals.
    How's that for starters :lol:

    If it's too much for you to digest, I'll sum up. Bush's illegal Iraq war may trigger larger more dangerous wars if he's not careful. Bush is the epitome of disaster.
    Do you play chess? I don't think so, 'cause you can't see two plays infront of Ya, :lol:

    Iraq invasion is a masterful move, you just can't see it, Terrorist are flocking there instead of the USA and are been mowed down by the thousands in the middle of the Desert, and now the Iraquis are taking over and doing worse to this foreigh fundamentalist terrorist when they catch them, but most importantly we need to be close to IRAN to keep the bomb from their hands, and probably will need to take action there soon, also Syria is in check, they are afraid they'll be next and pulled out of Libanon after 20 plus years just in case, all and all the USA is were it needs to be, 'cause if we don't do the dirty work , no one else will, but of course I know this is to much for you to digest, right?.

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    Quote Originally Written by Mixmachine

    Jimmy Carter was a good prez? :o :o this has got to be the worst disaster ever to seat in the White House in my life time so far, even Clinton was an over achiver when compared to him :lol:
    Careful! You're almost saying something nice about Clinton there MM !! They'll be having you surrender your Sean Hannity Newsletter membership !! :D
    Haha, you are a funny guy , no news letter of any kind, just my old fashion brain and a bit of reading between the lines , that's all.


    As far as the great Jimmy Carter's Presidency goes ......
    I have just two words to say about that : " DISCO " !!!! ... :D :D :D
    It's no coincidence that they both overlapped each other exactly ...... our greatest period ever in the history of the United States ...... The JIMMY CARTER / DISCO Era !!! :D 8) :D
    'Nuff Said/ Case Closed !!!
    yeah, luckily we had Disco and everything that went on with that during the Carter years, other wise the suffering would have been unbearable. :lol:

    :
    ...were you sober then? :lol: :lol:
    You know I've never really had any problems with alcohol ..... then or now ........ unlike our current Prez. :lol: :lol:
    I wish that he could kick the bottle ..... but I'm afraid his brain is so fried now, that regardless , he'll always have to have those ever present cheat-sheet cue cards of his in order to complete even the simplest of sentences ..... nevermind trying to convincingly convey those talking points others have pre-fed him . :oops: :oops:
    I had edited this out, I was afraid it didn't sound right as I meant it as a joke, glad you didn't get pissed :P

    .................................................. .........i love bush....support the troops ....merry christmas .... i love bush
    you are a true diplomat :P

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    Quote Originally Written by paul

    I'm not entirely sure what you point is as it relates to what I wrote but check this out.
    http://www.gazette.com/display.php?id=1312702&secid=1
    Note this is not from Salon or Air America, thus should be an easy read for you. Also note at the end they say Some conservative "Christian leaders are upset over the 1.4 million cards sent by the White House, wishing recipients a happy “holiday season.”"
    Didn't read anything! no need, the point is that the majority of America celebrates Christmas, they don't have to be christians, and this fact is all over the "regular" news, you and those that want to take away all traditions that have been in place for hundreds of years are the militant minority, in your case you are in the minority withing your minority.

    Anyway it was some Dem congress people who worked out a deal with Hugo to get discounted oil. Republicans talk the talk and are about slogans that engage in no critical thinking or actually resolving issues.
    :lol: really? :lol: again, ask for a refund, :lol: actually member of both parties have contacted leftist Chavez for a piece of the deal, even Millionare Indian Tribes all the way from Nevada.

    [color=red]Umm, it was Joe Kennedy and Dem Massachussetes Representative that got the deal. Perhaps you are confused here. In fact reading what you've written here, you also imply that the other groups want a piece of the deal already made by Kennedy and Rep. William Delahunt.
    I get my news from the regular evening news and the local Miami Herald ,and the occassional Fox, I'm certanly not going to chase down what I know I read or heard to prove to you or any one else, I got better things to do with my time,

    other parties are intrested in dealing with Chavez for oil, not take part in this particular deal, which means that Democrats are not the only ones..



    Dems walk the walk the walk!
    On behalf of many Americans I say thank you Hugo 8)
    Listen to another "Useful fool" thanking our busy enemies trying to divide and conquer, give you a bit of info, Chavez is one of the main reasons why oil is so expensive to begin with, he's been pushing OPEC to raise prices for many years to squeeze America and finance leftist revolts around South America, and especially to finance his stay in power by giving away free hand outs to his leftist supporters.[/quote]

    Again with the rants of a madman. You've made similar sorts of assertions before and I gave you the benefit of the doubt by asking you support them. I haven't seen anything. What am I supposed to think. I will therefore give this comment all the thought it deserves.
    The fact you never heard that Chavez for years was pushing OPEC to raise prices for all the reasons I mentioned speakes volumes about where you get your news, experts analist and reports have been shown in the "Standard" evening news and on papers for years, the USA had to pressure the Saudis not to give into Chavez' blackmails and threads during OPEC meetings, and the Saudis increased production instead, now Chavez is theatening to kick out American refineries out of Venezuela to further harm the USA supply while pretending to be a friend of the US poor with his hand outs , only fools fall for this, I ain't no fool , are you? ,,,..

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