Reply With QuoteThey had the launch party for this CD about a month ago....but no news since.
Supposedly, Piccadilly Records have it .
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Has anyone any info. on a new CD of Tom Moulton mixes, apparently called New York Classics Volume 1 ????
It is a new CD apparently, but I cannot find any track listing or info. even though I have pre-ordered it from Europe.
It is supposed to be on HalfMoon records, who have released a couple of 12" -Freeman is one.
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They had the launch party for this CD about a month ago....but no news since.
Supposedly, Piccadilly Records have it .
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Its a boot, Juno have it too. not sure its really new stuff
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For the record it is a VICTOR ROSADO and TOM MOULTON cd. There is plenty of information on this site (and others) about Victor if you do not know his place in dance music. He COUNTS...believe me.Originally Written by starsky
It's a boot- yes. There are 3 previously unavailable mixes on there. Sound quality varies from track to track. Worth having though. Sometimes it seems you gotta join the "other side" to get things out.....one disc id mixed by Victor. The other disc is the complete songs unmixed.
So morally speaking. How does it set with you that Moulton is on a unauthorized package with HIS full cooperation (but not that of the artists?).
For the record- I am OK with it. I know how these things work and sometimes you just gotta get it OUT there.....millions are NOT being made....believe me.....
TRACKLISTING:
ANAMBRA - OZO
LA VIE EN ROSE - GRACE JONES
LOVE AND HAPPINESS - FIRST CHOICE
GARDEN OF LOVE - DON RAY
LOVE IS EVERYWHERE - CITI LIMITS
ID RATHER SWITCH THAN FIGHT - SOUTH SHORE COMMISSION
SINNERMAN - SARA DASH
HIT MAN - CHANTEL CURTIS
DEVILS GUN - CJ AND CO
FREEMAN - SOUTH SHORE COMMISSION
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Thanks for that. I'm going to have to try to find this somehow.
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Interesting stuff. I think I might hunt down this CD myself. The cover looks like it was inspired by the Southshore Commission LP cover.
What's up with that track 'Hit Man' by Chantel Curtis? Isn't that 'Thousand Finger Man' by Candido?
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Something else to track down, I guess. It's about time someone put together a compilation of Tom Moulton's mixes. They've done them for Walter Gibbons and Larry Levan, yet Tom was the most prolific out of all of them.. I can imagine the cost and logistics of licensing from all the different labels would probably be a little much for a compilation that would probably make marginal profit. So I guess I can understand why they're doing it this way..
Anyway, I still hope we will see an official one someday. It'll probably have to be done like the Gibbons and Levan compilations; a label like Salsoul compiling the mixes done exclusively for the label, without having to deal with licensing. Not that much of an expert, but I'm assuming that would be the big obstacle..
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I bought that Walter Gibbons 3 disc, and unfortunately, the quality is crap. They used vinyl sources for everything that wasn't available on CD releases from the US and perhaps even Canada. I know they took from non-master tape sources outside of the obvious crackley tracks (like the Disco Madness tracks) because Block Party by Anthony White has the same chopped off bass drum at the beginning that's on the Twelve Inch Gold Salsoul CD series that was released in the US. I didn't realize until afterwards that the Walter Gibbons CD was put out by the same company that put out the Salsoul Acappellas disc which was completely from vinyl sources.
As far as I can tell, most of those mixes on this new CD are recent. At least, as far as the Southshore Commission, First Choice, and Sarah Dash tracks go.
Tom Moulton definitely needs an anthology, but I think the problem with that would be the sheer size of it. He remixed sooo many tracks, and was the guy brought in for mixing LPs, that you can find a lot of his stuff on various CDs. The Disco Gold series has been on CD. Disco Champs by The Trammps is on CD. Philadelphia Classics is on CD. For Salsoul, I believe almost every 12" remix ever released on that label has been put on CD, including everything that Moulton did. It's just a matter of hunting them all down and making your own compilation I guess.
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Yeah, I noticed that on the Walter Gibbons set too.. Those compilations from Suss'd/Salsoul look amazing; very stylish, well designed and well compiled. It's too bad the sound quality seems to be somewhat lacking. The only other compilation I have from their series is "Disco Funk Flavas 2," and the sound quality is disappointing on that too. If I remember, the vinyl sources were much more noticeable on that one than on the Gibbons compilation. I guess it's partly why I've been a bit hesitant to buy any of the others.
Yeah you've got a point there. Most of his successful stuff, or what he's done for popular artists has been (or will be) released on CD. I suppose if there will be a Tom Moulton anthology, there will have to be a good selection of rare tracks that otherwise wouldn't see a CD release. There have got to be some in the thousand or so mixes he's done. I guess if a label like BBE can release 3 volumes of their "Disco Spectrum" CDs of mostly rare tracks, then hopefully something with Tom Moulton's name attached should (hopefully) be able to do just as well..
Oh well, it's just a pipe dream for now anyway :P
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Just ask Tom....you know he will send YOU one of ALL people....Thanks for that. I'm going to have to try to find this somehow.
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Your pipe dream should be out in January or so on SOUL JAZZ records UK. The Tom Moulton anthology (legal, licensed with unreleased tracks) is really coming. But I would get the CD this thread is about....I dont think any of THAT stuff is gonna be there. I dont know the disc count or any of the tracks. Perhaps it is a good time given his recent activity and renaissance (which I had a part in, I am proud to say) for Bernie to do a contemporary interview with Mr Moulton?Yeah, I noticed that on the Walter Gibbons set too.. Those compilations from Suss'd/Salsoul look amazing; very stylish, well designed and well compiled. It's too bad the sound quality seems to be somewhat lacking. The only other compilation I have from their series is "Disco Funk Flavas 2," and the sound quality is disappointing on that too. If I remember, the vinyl sources were much more noticeable on that one than on the Gibbons compilation. I guess it's partly why I've been a bit hesitant to buy any of the others.
Yeah you've got a point there. Most of his successful stuff, or what he's done for popular artists has been (or will be) released on CD. I suppose if there will be a Tom Moulton anthology, there will have to be a good selection of rare tracks that otherwise wouldn't see a CD release. There have got to be some in the thousand or so mixes he's done. I guess if a label like BBE can release 3 volumes of their "Disco Spectrum" CDs of mostly rare tracks, then hopefully something with Tom Moulton's name attached should (hopefully) be able to do just as well..
Oh well, it's just a pipe dream for now anyway :P
From what I understand Tom has had a "Date With The Rain". Make of that what you will.......
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Wow, thanks for that news! Honestly didn't see that one coming so soon :)
I just checked their website and their compilations look real good. I just found out they were the ones behind the Nicky Siano Gallery compilation (which I haven't bought yet). In any case, can't wait to see the tracklist!
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Hmmm...from the sounds of it I kn ow understand why my Suss'd Out "Salsoul Anthology" had such poor/low quality on CD2. Burning spear & I'll Keep You Warm are lower volume than some of the other cuts.
I'd love to see "Sinner Man" in it's full en-edited glory.
Also, "Hit Man" by Miss Chantal...
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I listened to a sample of this track on the Juno website. Is it a remake/remix of Thousand Finger Man by Candido?
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Guys,
I trawled the Internet for some time looking for info. on this CD and at last found a site in Netherlands that said it had recieved one in stock....I ordered it and waited, but eventually I had to phone them, onlyto be told that it was to BE ordered from Australia, and to wait 9 days or so for info. !!
Well, you know a music fan! if they hear about something THEY GOTTA HAVE IT NOW !!
So a MILLION THANKS TO QUINNY - Piccadilly Records in Manchester, a relatively short train ride from me, told me thay had ONE copy arriving at lunchtime today Friday, and I almost begged the guy to reserve it for me immediately (I know it's sad but that's the way it is- I believe my dictum: "NO does not exist!!"..... only "not just yet"!)
PERSEVERANCE pays off... I am sitting listening to it as I type this.
It's amazing how from being lukewarm on it, it has grown as the tracks run through, until now I am ready to enthuse about it.
I will try and review if anyone is interested later this week ?
If anyone is having difficulty through 'JUNO '? -, try ordering from Piccadilly records in Manchester UK, I can find URL if you struggle.
DonaldCleveland - Thanks for putting up the track listings:
What do people think on the tracks included ?
- NOT TOTALLY Disco maybe, but definately Classics 'as per title' no ????- VIEWS WELCOME?? ....especially from New York dance fans.
And Thanks for the info. site on Victor, I must admit I do not know anythong about him, but will add him to my research list !!
I TOTALLY AGREE THAT TOM MOULTON DESERVES AN ANTHOLOGY - WHAT A GREAT SHOUT !!- --BERNIE, HAVE A WORD IN HIS EAR PLEASE !!
Finally, and I know it's not kind, but I would not have recognised Tom from the cover photo.
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OOOPS nearly forgot, I also found a copy of the Remix of Freeman that Tom has released.
Clocking in at nearly 10 minutes !!
Haven't listened yet !
Too overjoyed with cd, .....and the help recieved from THIS SITE !!!
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I'm not a fan of these new mixes Moulton has done. They sound too digital, harsh and toppy. The Freeman 12" has some interesting unheard parts but I don't like the sound of it at all. And why have they varied it down like that.
Like someone else said on here, whats the point of this revised history???
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Yeah, I don't like old songs re-mixed today.
It would be nice if Tom could re-master classic disco albums and 12" from the master tapes and have them re-issued properly on CD.
Songs that have never been on CD. Early Disco CD's that need to be re-mastered. Look at all that Donna Summer that needs to be re-mastered.
They could give him a department at Rhino or Hip-o.
Sell limited editions of his rare mixes---
I have a few in mind, such as Free Spirit.
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I agree some of the revisitations haven't sounded as good mixed today than if they had been mixed back in the day. A good example from my experience are the DJ Tools records from Salsoul. It's great to hear the backing tracks and stripped down parts of those songs, but the drums on some of them, like Love Thang by First Choice, just doesn't have that 70's punch. They sound too soft and flat.
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Re Salsoul tapes. A pal of mine from London is friendly with someone who works part time at Sussed (the UK licensee) and he says that US office are very unhelpful when it comes to do providing any masters or tapes. Hence why all the recent UK product is all mastered off vinyl. Apparently US Salsoul are very money orientated and anything that is requested, even if it's just a few masters is met with an overly large bill for "tape duplication".
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Re Tom Moulton CD
I read all this stuff with interest on Friday morning, located item at Juno records, ordered it in the Afternoon. It has arrived on Saturday Morning.I'm based in the UK of course.
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hmmm.. very interesting. I guess that explains why the earlier UK Salsoul reissues on Charly were mastered from vinyl (albeit very well done). I wonder if Unidisc had the same problems with their recent Salsoul album reissues..
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I didn't the Charly stuff was mastered from vinyl. They all sound like they were taken from master tapes. I'd have to take another listen.hmmm.. very interesting. I guess that explains why the earlier UK Salsoul reissues on Charly were mastered from vinyl (albeit very well done). I wonder if Unidisc had the same problems with their recent Salsoul album reissues..
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I didn't really think so either until someone else pointed it out on here before. I had always wondered why my CD of Candido's Dancin' and Prancin' sounded a little flat even though it said "Digitally Remastered" on the back. Maybe they are from the tapes and it was just the mixing or something..
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Zef,
What do you think of the cd ?--- that was QUICK delivery...I thought Concorde had been scrapped :lol:
BTW- I am sick of people jumping to conclusions and slagging 'remixes' off.
Tom did the original Disco mixes and now he is re-inventing them for fun !
Anyway Zef as YOU will have heard, the re-mixes are NOT wholesale changes, it is more of a segued CD. Do you agree ?
BTW - THE SECOND CD (of the two cd set) HAS THE VERSIONS - for all the people who want un-Tampered with versions !!
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