Despite her objections, Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive" was the B-side to "Substitute." See...
http://www.discomusic.com/people-more/36_0_11_0_C76/
A local D'J' did a radio show here in Detroit, and he dedicated his show to only B-side 45's of several popular 60's and 70's groups ie: James Brown, Foxy, Impressions, etc.(sorry don't know many titles of B-sides :cry: ). Some of the songs seemed ok, but I admit that alot of the songs, I'm sure I would not be interested in trying to find.
I guess my questions is, was the songs on the B-sides of records the tracks that record companies used in attempt to show a slightly different style of the artist? To my knowledge, I rarely remember a 45 record having a B-side that was very successfull.
Even now, as I dig thru my 45 collection, I don't get the same vibe I get when playing the A-side tracks.
Just wondering, what's your thoughts?
super d(motordetroit) 8)
Despite her objections, Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive" was the B-side to "Substitute." See...
http://www.discomusic.com/people-more/36_0_11_0_C76/
You have maybe 3 good tracks on an album. Are you going to put two of them onto a single release?
In 999 out of 1000 cases, the answer would be NO!!!
Does that answer your question?
yeah back in the day you had like an lp with seven songs total. you were lucky if you got eight or nine. so you have to put some b s on the b side to sell just the single. now a days you buy a single which is aka a 45 and you put a thousand different versions of that song or snippets of a the cd. same scenario in a way. but I had some cool 45's that had like a continuation of the song from the a side. now that is cool.
I definite agree!Originally Written by soulsta
There were too many songs out there that were "B" sides for me to dig. I'll say this "I play the "B" sides!
I remember one 45 by al wilson with show and tell on it. the b side had the sample that the guy (amg?) from the westcoast who made that backside hit--well he got the sample from that song on the b side of the 45. I have found a lot of rap samples that were used on b sides
flatbush you go!
why so hostile guy? :-? just wanted your thoughts? It ain't that serious.Originally Written by QUINNY
super d(motordetroit) 8)
Since many people didn't ever bother to play the b-sides of their singles, less attention was paid to these than the a-side or the LPs. What makes b-sides interesting is that with many artists, this was the only place that they were allowed to explore or try less commercial things, which is why I take such an interest in them. For example, one of Gloria Gaynor's early singles has a b-side that she penned herself, whereas none of her albums for most of the 70s had any of her own songs. B-side-only tracks tended to be more common in Europe, which has always had a much stronger singles market.
A few acts are known for putting out b-sides that are as strong as anything they've ever done, such as the Pet Shop Boys (so much so that a double-CD was compiled from them in the mid-90s).
awesome topic... they used to try to put great songs on the b-side maybe in the 50' & 60's.... to help sell the record. and there were lots of double sided hits.
maybe as LP sales got larger... they put sub releases by the record company or maybe the artists choice on back or a combination of both.
Agree with Q.There is no profit in putting two hits on one 45 for the record companies.It was a question of marketing.Record companies would tease you with a couple of hot hits from an album hoping you would figure the album was just as good that you would purchase it!Also quite often the single track was shorter than the album cut for radio play and one would be prompted to buy the Lp for the lengthier version. :P
Gotta play those b-sides. Hell, wasn't the b-side to Aretha's, "Respect", the classic, "Ain't No Way"? :)
Hey Nicky, did you mention that What Can I Do For You was the B-side of Lady Marmalade?
In the late 1960's, Sam and Dave did exclusive b-sides that were never put on album. The executives at Stax/Atlantic figured it would be a good way to boost single sales. If you had the album, odds were good that you would want the exclusive b-side.
Commercial oriented songs are always given the a-side but one never 100% truly knows what is going to sell. Certainly some b-sides are fillers but I often view songs that are not hits as less catchy but not of less quality. For example, my top 10 favorites by Marvin Gaye were all either post-humously released after his death, b-sides, or album cuts. Hands down the 3 best songs he ever did was "Piece of clay", "My last chance" and "Just to keep you satisfied".
There are various reasons for choosing the B side track. These are the ones I've come across:
- it's a leftover cut from the same session as the LP the A side was put on. There's a breakbeat cut called Black Grass by Bad Bascomb, which was also on the LP the group released, but the flipside Feel Like Dancing, another breakbeat favourite, didn't appear on the LP.
- it's a song from the previous LP. Bohannon's Truck Stop 45, which was taken from the Keep on Dancing LP had Happiness as the B side, which was from the previous LP Stop & Go.
- it's an instrumental of the A side, which was perfect for DJs to make their own extended versions. An unusual example was a Loose Change 45 I came across one single (Straight From The Heart) where the B side was an instrumental of ANOTHER cut (All Night Man) from the same album.
- it's an extended disco mix of the A side. Sometimes its just the LP version, and in others, it's an even rarer remix, like in the case of 'Who Loves You' by The Four Seasons.
Disco Funk
After I bought the Kelly Marie 12" "Feels Like I'm In Love", I actually got to like the B-Side better, "New York At Night". :)
I Think the record company's used the corny songs as a filler for the b-sides, as not to give away another hit single for free.
the good songs are used as extra /future single for the lp.
except for the donna summer single"Cant We Just Sit Down"
was an a side, but the b-side was The Hit "I Feel Love"
so in this case, the b-side was the hot hit.
sonic.
Originally Written by djsonic
well then they screwed up with these:
OHIO PLAYERS - SKIN TIGHT b/w HEAVEN MUST BE LIKE THIS
OHIO PLAYERS - FIRE b/w TOGETHER
Together was a succsess for the ohio players becase of the r&b Market. it was a hot album track, murcury records
did not care for together,because it was not the disco/funk like roller coaster and fire,the records they were promoting.
sonic.
sonic,Originally Written by djsonic
the organ playing in this song made it so hypnotic and a treat to listen to. I couldn't wait to get the LP.
You're right a lot of times the labels would try to hit another segment of the market with the b-side.
Isn't this a great topic?
I didn't realize that the Ohio Players had such great b-sides.
I am going to look at all of my old '45's from the 70's and see what I can find.
Robin
another great OHIO PLAYERS B-side
JIVE TURKEY b/w STREAKIN' CHEEK TO CHEEK
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This is a good topic !!
I think one of the most mismatched A and B sides is Dorothy Moore's eloquent and classy "MISTY BLUE " b/w the tawdry "HERE IT IS " . *
*( which is a walk in the park by today's standards ) :(![]()
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