Reply With QuoteDan Hartman had far more finesse in his writing and production skills than Cerrone could ever have, so put me down for Danny boy.
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I viewed these artist as guys who hit it big with 1 or 2 songs but generally had only ordinary songs at best beyond that. Well I've change my mind a little for one of 'em, Dan Hartman. It's not so much that I hadn't heard songs like Countdown or I Can Dream About You. I just like 'em a whole lot more now 8)
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Dan Hartman had far more finesse in his writing and production skills than Cerrone could ever have, so put me down for Danny boy.
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Instant Replay, Relight My Fire and I Can Dream About You were the best songs from Dan Hartman.
Love In C Minor, Give Me Love and Supernature were just a few songs, if not production with other groups that Cerrone took a part of. Kongas, Love and Kisses among others...
I'll take Cerrone in this battle!
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I really like Dan Hartman's late 70's period. Instant Replay, Hands Down, and Relight My Fire are great tunes. Plus, as a member of Edgar Winter's Group he played on that awesome rocker 'Frankenstein'. But his strongest output was limited to a couple of good LPs.
Cerrone on the other hand had a lot of classic LPs/tunes like 'Love In C Minor', and even got props from the hip hop world with his live 'Rocket In The Pocket', which was a scratch/mixing favorite for the DJs. That Kongas project he was a part of was really good too, as well as his work with Alec Constandinos.
This one goes to Cerrone.
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Different styles, Dan Hartman's and Cerrone's, with the exception of "Relight My Fire" from Dan and "You're The One" from Jean Marc. Everyone agrees "Relight" with it's vocals by Loleatta Holloway is a soulful boogie thing. Cerrone's "You're The One" was sung by Jocelyn Brown so that's soul stuff as well. As for the rest of Dan Hartman's stuff, that's more like very white American bubblegum/pop disco, like "Instant Replay" - sounds like The Archies. Cerrone, however, he's can't really be thought as a pop let alone rock act as the aesthetic of the records is deeply rooted in the interracial dancefloors of Paris - you know how those places are: slinky black girls and white girls drape themselves around each other, running their fingertips over moist painted mouths, while next to them, guys stare and fantasize about a torrid menage-a-trois. That's the music of Cerrone, hot, pounding, sex! Get his Cerrone Culture dvd box and feast your eyes on not only the old classics but the new stuff as well, mon dieu those are steamy visuals and torrid sounds. The music of Dan Hartman..well, it's perfectly nice and all that but is it HOT? I don't think so!:-)
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Cerrone was HOT!?!?!????
Dan Hartman was POP!?!?!??? Only 'cos he had a massive worldwide hit or 3.
Bet such a wannabe as Cerrone wishes he coulda been pop, eh.
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Quinny, it's interesting to see we have similar taste in disco 8)
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It's odd to me that you'd compare Cerrone to Dan Hartman. If I were to compare...I'd use Peter Brown with Dan Hartman (Peter wins....but Dan had the great "Relight My Fire"--an alltime fave).
And Cerrone's music is more comparable to that of Boris Midney or Alec Costandinos (I'd take Cerrone here, although it's not something I really spend much time thinking about. ).
Just my 2 cents.
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Only "Vertigo/Relight My Fire" was a real classic by Dan Hartman IMHO (= for me).
So I would pick Cerrone, but....since my ultimate Discoclassic is "Love in C Minor" I'm gonna pick Costandinos coz' his vibes were crucial to a lot of stuff I cherisch. And for Boris Midney? I adore his works but if you listen carefully to them, Costandinos is indeed always in his neighbourhood. So, to answer Paul's dilemma: Cerrone.
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Marky, I feel you bro. In fact I did think about Hartman/Brown and Cerrone/Costandinos for style reasons. I changed my mind because I wanted more of a contrast in style while comparable in terms of hits and dance floor popularity. Yes it was completely arbitrary, but I'm being the HNC on these threads :lol:Originally Written by markydefad
It's odd to me that you'd compare Cerrone to Dan Hartman. If I were to compare...I'd use Peter Brown with Dan Hartman (Peter wins....but Dan had the great "Relight My Fire"--an alltime fave).
And Cerrone's music is more comparable to that of Boris Midney or Alec Costandinos (I'd take Cerrone here, although it's not something I really spend much time thinking about. ).
Just my 2 cents.
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Ooh the mighty Disco Fakirs, Cerrone, Midney and Costandinos.
Would you like some onions to go with that tripe!!!
They all thought it had to have some classical slant to be proper disco music and then ruined the whole concept by banging over-emphatic, metronomic kick drums in the mix.
Hartman epitomised the true spirit of Disco music more so than those three combined. At least Hartman understood that great dance music was about vibes and grooves.....something they could never quite grasp in their European naivety.
If only I could uninvent a half dozen names. :P :P
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That's the best Cerrone-analysis I read....EVER :D
You see Quinny, Cerrone is a bonbon, unwrap it, put it in your mouth, let it melt and then....WOW :o ORGAZM Cerrone is music for sophisticated nightclubs, it spells: Girls, cars, houses, creditcards while Dan Hartman is great fun on the dancefloor. One day you will be charmed by the three fakirs, you will
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I just don't understand how something soooo one-dimensional would need unwrapping to reveal hidden layers.
As for Jussi and his description...that only exists in his warped mind. :lol: :lol: :lol: But seriously, if Cerrone was anything more than a short man with a huge over-compensatory ego.....I'm a Walloon's uncle. Just 'cos he had naked women on his album covers, didn't make his music sexy or anything else. By that reckoning, Hugh Heffner must be THE sexiest man alive....duh!!! Since when have drummers ever been musical geniuses? There's a reason why they play drums and are the butt of musician's jokes. :lol:
If Cerrone's music is hot, pounding sex, then I reckon it would all be over in 20 seconds. More like pure, hot premature ejaculation.
One day you'll see the light.
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I never thought of Cerrone's music as being 'sexy'. It was great listening, but about as titillating as a sterile hospital environment. But it was still good disco, even if it did lack a lot of the soul that, say, Dan Hartman's stuff had a bit of.
If we're talking about 'sexy' disco, I've always thought 'Don't Stop Now', the LP by The Brothers, had sensually sounding music, if that's even possible.
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Quinny, I AM a Walloon, so you're my uncle :o :o ???? We are family? Great!!!! :D BTW, sex is over in 20 seconds? Nooooo!
The great Cerrone, Midney and Costandinos tracks fill complete album-sides. So, Jussik's right! It IS hot pounding sex. Cerrone is a Rolls-Royce, sophisticated, smooth, reliable, the finest leather, carefully elaborated wood! On one thing you are right, it doesn't make a jump start so that's why it's not fit to bop till you drop.
Silk sheets, dimmed lights, oil, 23 positions in a 1 night stand!
On the positive tip, I'm equipped with a whip
I don't have to spank you 'cause this is my ship
I will still be hip, when the words from your lip
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Quinny, you'll never know how much, how much I love you
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What's a walloon? Is it another way to say...monkey??? :-?
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Damn, with the hot talk going on here perhaps you 2 need some quality time alone. Heck, the way Cerrone's being described I might wanna bed him downQuinny, I AM a Walloon, so you're my uncle :o :o ???? We are family? Great!!!! :D BTW, sex is over in 20 seconds? Nooooo!
The great Cerrone, Midney and Costandinos tracks fill complete album-sides. So, Jussik's right! It IS hot pounding sex. Cerrone is a Rolls-Royce, sophisticated, smooth, reliable, the finest leather, carefully elaborated wood! On one thing you are right, it doesn't make a jump start so that's why it's not fit to bop till you drop.
Silk sheets, dimmed lights, oil, 23 positions in a 1 night stand!
On the positive tip, I'm equipped with a whip
I don't have to spank you 'cause this is my ship
I will still be hip, when the words from your lip
Take a dip in the ratings
Quinny, you'll never know how much, how much I love you
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VideoS: Thought you'd like my Walloon reference.
We'll just have to put this down to one man's meat.
Believe me when I say that prior to visiting this website, Cerrone, Midney and Costandinos meant absolutely nothing to me. They were small bit players in Discos rich musical tapestry....minor players that were filed away under 'also rans' and I still feel that way. Don't suppose I'll ever change.
I blame Bernie.
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Marky, a Walloon is an inhabitant from the French speaking part of Belgium. There are 5 million of them and they are all coming over to give you a good spanking :o My grandparents were Walloons but I live in Flanders:Belgium where we speak Flemish (sort of Dutch) and to make things more difficult, there's also a German speaking part here.
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oops...I just took my cue from "uncle"...that it might be a "minkey" as Inpector Clousseau used to say. :lol: :lol: :P
I wasn't dissin' nobody!!!
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It's interesting that you chose Dan Hartman & Cerrone 'cos their careers ran fairly parallel didn't they? They both jumped on the 'disco bandwagon' in the mid/late 70s making some of the best 'disco' records of all-time & then both made dreadful 'rock'-tinged LPs in the early eighties & then they beiefly went funkier & changed yet again to beome pop/dance by the mid eighties. I s'pose this was a fairly typical career path for many international music artists/producers at the time.
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I agree with Lord ... especially on the song choices. Add his collaberation with Kongas and were set...
CERRONE is the winner.
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Thanks efunk_adelic!I agree with Lord ... especially on the song choices. Add his collaberation with Kongas and were set...
CERRONE is the winner.
I'm a CERRONE fan, hands down! Oops, did I mention Dan Hartman's song in the same sentence? Nevertheless, We're The Young by Dan Hartman wasn't mentioned but a nice song at its time. It still doesn't take away the accomplishments from both men.
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Marky, a Walloon is an inhabitant from the French speaking part of Belgium. There are 5 million of them and they are all coming over to give you a good spanking My grandparents were Walloons but I live in Flanders:Belgium where we speak Flemish (sort of Dutch) and to make things more difficult, there's also a German speaking part here.
Skoot, " sort of dutch " ? Don`t wanna have my wife read that..she`s dutch... and I am german (to make it more difficult). And then, to really make it difficult, relatives in South Africa... ask them who f....d up Afrikaans. Right : old dutch..
nowadays called flamish :D
tot ziens
Sharknbake
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Yes, we speak Flemish, a much warmer variant of Dutch. The Dutch people are responsable for Suud-Afrikaans, not the Belgians . :D We never went there, we stayed in Congo, Rwanda and Burundi but .....ehmmm, that's another (not so great) story.
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