DAN HARTMAN or CERRONE

**paul** · October 24th, 2005, 01:48 AM

I viewed these artist as guys who hit it big with 1 or 2 songs but generally had only ordinary songs at best beyond that. Well I've change my mind a little for one of 'em, Dan Hartman. It's not so much that I hadn't heard songs like Countdown or I Can Dream About You. I just like 'em a whole lot more now 8)

**QUINNY** · October 24th, 2005, 03:41 AM

Dan Hartman had far more finesse in his writing and production skills than Cerrone could ever have, so put me down for Danny boy.

**TheLordOfFlatbush** · October 24th, 2005, 09:02 AM

Instant Replay, Relight My Fire and I Can Dream About You were the best songs from Dan Hartman.

Love In C Minor, Give Me Love and Supernature were just a few songs, if not production with other groups that Cerrone took a part of. Kongas, Love and Kisses among others...

I'll take Cerrone in this battle!

**Disco Funk** · October 24th, 2005, 09:27 AM

I really like Dan Hartman's late 70's period. Instant Replay, Hands Down, and Relight My Fire are great tunes. Plus, as a member of Edgar Winter's Group he played on that awesome rocker 'Frankenstein'. But his strongest output was limited to a couple of good LPs.

Cerrone on the other hand had a lot of classic LPs/tunes like 'Love In C Minor', and even got props from the hip hop world with his live 'Rocket In The Pocket', which was a scratch/mixing favorite for the DJs. That Kongas project he was a part of was really good too, as well as his work with Alec Constandinos.

This one goes to Cerrone.

Disco Funk

**JussiK** · October 24th, 2005, 10:47 AM

Different styles, Dan Hartman's and Cerrone's, with the exception of "Relight My Fire" from Dan and "You're The One" from Jean Marc. Everyone agrees "Relight" with it's vocals by Loleatta Holloway is a soulful boogie thing. Cerrone's "You're The One" was sung by Jocelyn Brown so that's soul stuff as well. As for the rest of Dan Hartman's stuff, that's more like very white American bubblegum/pop disco, like "Instant Replay" - sounds like The Archies. Cerrone, however, he's can't really be thought as a pop let alone rock act as the aesthetic of the records is deeply rooted in the interracial dancefloors of Paris - you know how those places are: slinky black girls and white girls drape themselves around each other, running their fingertips over moist painted mouths, while next to them, guys stare and fantasize about a torrid menage-a-trois. That's the music of Cerrone, hot, pounding, sex! Get his Cerrone Culture dvd box and feast your eyes on not only the old classics but the new stuff as well, mon dieu those are steamy visuals and torrid sounds. The music of Dan Hartman..well, it's perfectly nice and all that but is it HOT? I don't think so!:-)

**QUINNY** · October 24th, 2005, 12:10 PM

Cerrone was HOT!?!?!????
Dan Hartman was POP!?!?!??? Only 'cos he had a massive worldwide hit or 3.

Bet such a wannabe as Cerrone wishes he coulda been pop, eh.

**paul** · October 24th, 2005, 12:22 PM

Quinny, it's interesting to see we have similar taste in disco 8)

**markydefad** · October 24th, 2005, 03:09 PM

It's odd to me that you'd compare Cerrone to Dan Hartman. If I were to compare...I'd use Peter Brown with Dan Hartman (Peter wins....but Dan had the great "Relight My Fire"--an alltime fave).

And Cerrone's music is more comparable to that of Boris Midney or Alec Costandinos (I'd take Cerrone here, although it's not something I really spend much time thinking about. ).

Just my 2 cents.

**Videoskooter** · October 24th, 2005, 03:16 PM

Only "Vertigo/Relight My Fire" was a real classic by Dan Hartman IMHO (= for me).

So I would pick Cerrone, but....since my ultimate Discoclassic is "Love in C Minor" I'm gonna pick Costandinos coz' his vibes were crucial to a lot of stuff I cherisch. And for Boris Midney? I adore his works but if you listen carefully to them, Costandinos is indeed always in his neighbourhood. So, to answer Paul's dilemma: Cerrone.

**paul** · October 24th, 2005, 03:37 PM

Originally Written by markydefad

It's odd to me that you'd compare Cerrone to Dan Hartman. If I were to compare...I'd use Peter Brown with Dan Hartman (Peter wins....but Dan had the great "Relight My Fire"--an alltime fave).

And Cerrone's music is more comparable to that of Boris Midney or Alec Costandinos (I'd take Cerrone here, although it's not something I really spend much time thinking about. ).

Just my 2 cents.

Marky, I feel you bro. In fact I did think about Hartman/Brown and Cerrone/Costandinos for style reasons. I changed my mind because I wanted more of a contrast in style while comparable in terms of hits and dance floor popularity. Yes it was completely arbitrary, but I'm being the HNC on these threads :lol:

**QUINNY** · October 24th, 2005, 05:21 PM

Ooh the mighty Disco Fakirs, Cerrone, Midney and Costandinos.
Would you like some onions to go with that tripe!!!

They all thought it had to have some classical slant to be proper disco music and then ruined the whole concept by banging over-emphatic, metronomic kick drums in the mix.

Hartman epitomised the true spirit of Disco music more so than those three combined. At least Hartman understood that great dance music was about vibes and grooves.....something they could never quite grasp in their European naivety.

If only I could uninvent a half dozen names. :P :P

**Videoskooter** · October 24th, 2005, 08:33 PM

Originally Written by JussiK

Cerrone, however, he's can't really be thought as a pop let alone rock act as the aesthetic of the records is deeply rooted in the interracial dancefloors of Paris - you know how those places are: slinky black girls and white girls drape themselves around each other, running their fingertips over moist painted mouths, while next to them, guys stare and fantasize about a torrid menage-a-trois. That's the music of Cerrone, hot, pounding, sex!

That's the best Cerrone-analysis I read....EVER :D

You see Quinny, Cerrone is a bonbon, unwrap it, put it in your mouth, let it melt and then....WOW :o ORGAZM Cerrone is music for sophisticated nightclubs, it spells: Girls, cars, houses, creditcards while Dan Hartman is great fun on the dancefloor. One day you will be charmed by the three fakirs, you will

**QUINNY** · October 25th, 2005, 03:35 AM

I just don't understand how something soooo one-dimensional would need unwrapping to reveal hidden layers.

As for Jussi and his description...that only exists in his warped mind. :lol: :lol: :lol: But seriously, if Cerrone was anything more than a short man with a huge over-compensatory ego.....I'm a Walloon's uncle. Just 'cos he had naked women on his album covers, didn't make his music sexy or anything else. By that reckoning, Hugh Heffner must be THE sexiest man alive....duh!!! Since when have drummers ever been musical geniuses? There's a reason why they play drums and are the butt of musician's jokes. :lol:

If Cerrone's music is hot, pounding sex, then I reckon it would all be over in 20 seconds. More like pure, hot premature ejaculation.
One day you'll see the light.

**Disco Funk** · October 25th, 2005, 09:42 AM

I never thought of Cerrone's music as being 'sexy'. It was great listening, but about as titillating as a sterile hospital environment. But it was still good disco, even if it did lack a lot of the soul that, say, Dan Hartman's stuff had a bit of.

If we're talking about 'sexy' disco, I've always thought 'Don't Stop Now', the LP by The Brothers, had sensually sounding music, if that's even possible.

Disco Funk

**Videoskooter** · October 25th, 2005, 12:59 PM

Originally Written by QUINNY

But seriously, if Cerrone was anything more than a short man with a huge over-compensatory ego.....I'm a Walloon's uncle.

Quinny, I AM a Walloon, so you're my uncle :o :o ???? We are family? Great!!!! :D BTW, sex is over in 20 seconds? Nooooo!

The great Cerrone, Midney and Costandinos tracks fill complete album-sides. So, Jussik's right! It IS hot pounding sex. Cerrone is a Rolls-Royce, sophisticated, smooth, reliable, the finest leather, carefully elaborated wood! On one thing you are right, it doesn't make a jump start so that's why it's not fit to bop till you drop.

Silk sheets, dimmed lights, oil, 23 positions in a 1 night stand!

On the positive tip, I'm equipped with a whip
I don't have to spank you 'cause this is my ship
I will still be hip, when the words from your lip
Take a dip in the ratings

Quinny, you'll never know how much, how much I love you